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| Posted: Fri, 7th Nov 2014 22:36 Post subject: |
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Nov 2014 22:46 Post subject: |
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Utterly ridiculous - clearly not bothered to optimize for PC, just dumped the XBONE code into a DX11 compatible port and fuck the rest.
No game should require what's basically a R9 280X as standard.... and 6Gb RAM? Thats becoming quite the standard suddenly; is there something in nexgen consoles that have odd memory mapping or something?
Fucking ridiculous.
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Nov 2014 22:53 Post subject: |
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290x ?! That card is more expensive than my whole pc
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Nov 2014 23:06 Post subject: |
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| Kaltern wrote: | Utterly ridiculous - clearly not bothered to optimize for PC, just dumped the XBONE code into a DX11 compatible port and fuck the rest.
No game should require what's basically a R9 280X as standard.... and 6Gb RAM? Thats becoming quite the standard suddenly; is there something in nexgen consoles that have odd memory mapping or something?
Fucking ridiculous. |
what is fucking ridiculous is people who haven't upgraded PCs since ps3/360 era expecting to play new games smooth and problem free.
this wouldn't be such a problem if ps3/360 didn't last such a loooong time, making people forget that PCs need constant upgrade to be relevant in gaming.
well i'll stop wasting my time responding to someone who thinks 6GB ram is a lot nowadays, when every fucking laptop and office PC now has 8GB at the minimum.
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Nov 2014 23:14 Post subject: |
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So because we have glorious NextGen consoles, that means that PC owners must suddenly upgrade to something new, when the current hardware in my sig, for example, ALREADY outclasses PS4/XBONE?
and I have 8Gb in my system, yet NO GAME has yet to use half of it (well, apart from maybe SC). The specs are there purely because the developers can't be bothered to optimize the code for PC, no other reason.
I guarantee you Unity will not use even half of that 6Gb.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Nov 2014 00:12 Post subject: |
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| rgb#000 wrote: | | Kaltern wrote: | Utterly ridiculous - clearly not bothered to optimize for PC, just dumped the XBONE code into a DX11 compatible port and fuck the rest.
No game should require what's basically a R9 280X as standard.... and 6Gb RAM? Thats becoming quite the standard suddenly; is there something in nexgen consoles that have odd memory mapping or something?
Fucking ridiculous. |
what is fucking ridiculous is people who haven't upgraded PCs since ps3/360 era expecting to play new games smooth and problem free.
this wouldn't be such a problem if ps3/360 didn't last such a loooong time, making people forget that PCs need constant upgrade to be relevant in gaming.
well i'll stop wasting my time responding to someone who thinks 6GB ram is a lot nowadays, when every fucking laptop and office PC now has 8GB at the minimum. |
considering x1ps4 have something equvalent to i3 4130 660-7850 8gb ram, i'd say pc with this specs should be able to handle anything that can run on them consoles, gtx 680 4gb would be recommended not minimum
unoptimized shit is unoptimised
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Nov 2014 00:16 Post subject: |
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oh yeah, i was being generous when it comes to cpu, i'd say amd x2 would be closer, i3 is overkill
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Nov 2014 00:17 Post subject: |
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| harry_theone wrote: | | rgb#000 wrote: |
what is fucking ridiculous is people who haven't upgraded PCs since ps3/360 era expecting to play new games smooth and problem free.
this wouldn't be such a problem if ps3/360 didn't last such a loooong time, making people forget that PCs need constant upgrade to be relevant in gaming.
well i'll stop wasting my time responding to someone who thinks 6GB ram is a lot nowadays, when every fucking laptop and office PC now has 8GB at the minimum. |
Oh yeah, very good. You think like the lazy developers/publishers. It's not a bad port, it's us not having state-of-the-art technology to run it.
Maybe not repeating every shit others spill, is a good start   |
why even argue with him?
It's coming from a guy who has 32gb of RAM. |
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Nov 2014 00:25 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Nov 2014 00:31 Post subject: |
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7850 been here with us since January 2012
so yeah i'd say ps4 is outdated
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Nov 2014 00:31 Post subject: |
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I think it makes sense that the requirements are going up recently. This is suppose to be the "next-gen" for console / AAA games. Of course it will take better hardware to run them. As to whether the requirements are justified, well no one can actually prove it. People like to talk about Crysis 1 being hard to run just for the sake of it, its like they somehow have the mental capacity to dissect visual render into numbers and figure out how less optimized than it could be.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Nov 2014 00:32 Post subject: |
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the only reason why specs are so high is simple
we are basically running ps4 emulator, which does require more power, naturally
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Nov 2014 00:42 Post subject: |
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| rgb#000 wrote: | | Kaltern wrote: | Utterly ridiculous - clearly not bothered to optimize for PC, just dumped the XBONE code into a DX11 compatible port and fuck the rest.
No game should require what's basically a R9 280X as standard.... and 6Gb RAM? Thats becoming quite the standard suddenly; is there something in nexgen consoles that have odd memory mapping or something?
Fucking ridiculous. |
what is fucking ridiculous is people who haven't upgraded PCs since ps3/360 era expecting to play new games smooth and problem free.
this wouldn't be such a problem if ps3/360 didn't last such a loooong time, making people forget that PCs need constant upgrade to be relevant in gaming.
well i'll stop wasting my time responding to someone who thinks 6GB ram is a lot nowadays, when every fucking laptop and office PC now has 8GB at the minimum. |
Yeah, wanna bet that it'll run like ass even with the recommended settings they're putting there.
I've got just above of what they're recommending and I can take a wild guess that I won't be getting 60FPS @ 1080p. |
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Nov 2014 01:05 Post subject: |
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| Prefetian wrote: | | ...and I can take a wild guess that I won't be getting 60FPS @ 1080p. |
Of course, you'll be playing it at 60fps...
 Spoiler: | ...at medium settings.  |
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Raccoon
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Nov 2014 01:52 Post subject: |
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I presume the system requirements shouldn't be taken too seriously since there's the same AMD CPU in both recommended and minimum, whereas Intel CPU's are rather distinct regarding speed and features.
They probably didn't even bother to do any proper testing and just slapped the most powerful PC parts on.
Final optimization is a total mystery though.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Nov 2014 01:57 Post subject: |
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Anyone got this running on a gaming laptop men?
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Raccoon
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Nov 2014 09:36 Post subject: |
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Watched a chunk of raw gameplay and came away with these thoughts.
The clipping issues in the game are absolutely atrocious. I'm amazed it's being released in that state. You basically go through almost everyone no matter what you are doing. Surely they will day 1 patch it because it's the worst clipping I've ever seen.
The combat looks dull. Basically nothing changed. Dumb as nails ai reluctant to attack and instead of a 1 button counter kill it's now separated into 2 buttons. Some guys require dodging as per usual. What a revolution!
Nice animations and parkour though.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Nov 2014 10:44 Post subject: |
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Basically the combat has gone back to how it was in AC1. Fighting will be a pita if there are more than 3 enemies. But then atleast it won't be automatic like it was from Brotherhood to AC4. Although remember that second last mission in AC1 where you fought the tall bald boss as well as 9-10 of his minions together? 
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Nov 2014 10:59 Post subject: |
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| rgb#000 wrote: | | Przepraszam wrote: | | It's coming from a guy who has 32gb of RAM. |
what? who does, me? the fuck are you blabbering? i most certainly don't have that much ram, stop doing drugs or whatever. 
all i was saying is requiring 2.5 year old gpu and recommending 1.5 year old gpu to play AAA game is certainly not unreasonable.
i just wonder how long are people gonna bitch and whine, these requirements aren't going down. it's been like 5 or 6 recent games and counting showing the same trend. i mean just how many more games do you need to see that it's either time to upgrade, or go to play F2P junk games like dota, or play on a console if this PC stuff isn't for you. |
Hmm lets see again the minimum requirements... 2500k, that is like atleast 5 times faster than the calculator AMD CPU in consoles, GTX 680, that is like half more faster than the APU GPU... Considering this is what we need as minimum on PC port, its not really acceptable, no matter how you twist it ofc this is "old ass" hardware these days, but still has shitloads of muscle in it. This is even more absurd than previous gen, since now we share pretty much the same architechture between PC´s and consoles.
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