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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Oct 2014 21:15    Post subject:
And yet the order is praised for it's cinematic black bars Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Oct 2014 22:48    Post subject:
Played it for 2h , this game is so awesome...intense , sick and gory...dat moment when you are running through the woods and all of a sudden a horde..feeding..and they start runnig towards you..holy shit. And those fuckin traps..so nicely done , luring enemies , forgeting where traps are..and then boom , just a mutilated corpse..damn..lovin it so far !

And yes , those fuckin black bars..wtf , srlsly..
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Adebisi




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Oct 2014 23:39    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
And yet the order is praised for it's cinematic black bars Laughing


You kidding? where did you see someone that likes black bars? all i can see is most gamers hates this very very much.
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Oct 2014 12:03    Post subject:
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Bethesda warned turning off the black bars will affect performance? Hmmm ... Rolling Eyes


Makes sense why they refuse to patch this shit on consoles. Can't imagine how ps4 version will run without them. It's like about 24fps now all the time with drops to 20 or lower at times. -_-

Such a thing almost ruin otherwise great game for me. Sad
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Oct 2014 12:47    Post subject:
wtf, even ps4 version cant keep constant 30 fps?
i m glad i didnt buy it, gonna continue with ps3 then Reaction
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Oct 2014 13:04    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
wtf, even ps4 version cant keep constant 30 fps?
i m glad i didnt buy it, gonna continue with ps3 then Reaction


Yep, horrid performance on ps4. On the other hand Xbone version looks worse, but the framerate is stable.
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Adebisi




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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Oct 2014 13:04    Post subject:
Patton_ wrote:
headshot wrote:
Bethesda warned turning off the black bars will affect performance? Hmmm ... Rolling Eyes


Makes sense why they refuse to patch this shit on consoles. Can't imagine how ps4 version will run without them. It's like about 24fps now all the time with drops to 20 or lower at times. -_-

Such a thing almost ruin otherwise great game for me. Sad


This might make sense but it's the devs fault and not like i saw from others that blame consoles for holding it back, Hell Resident Evil 5.. a game 5 years old can do full screen on 360/PS3.. why the hell this can't?
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Oct 2014 22:36    Post subject:
Anyone experienced crashes and errors on PS4 with this game ? Sometimes just black screen when starting the game and after closing the game and starting it again..everything works..

EDIT: its fuckin CE-34878-0 error.. just googled it..
EDIT2: it seems that I fixed it by reinstalling the game..meh..
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Oct 2014 00:06    Post subject:
Adebisi wrote:
Patton_ wrote:
headshot wrote:
Bethesda warned turning off the black bars will affect performance? Hmmm ... Rolling Eyes


Makes sense why they refuse to patch this shit on consoles. Can't imagine how ps4 version will run without them. It's like about 24fps now all the time with drops to 20 or lower at times. -_-

Such a thing almost ruin otherwise great game for me. Sad


This might make sense but it's the devs fault and not like i saw from others that blame consoles for holding it back, Hell Resident Evil 5.. a game 5 years old can do full screen on 360/PS3.. why the hell this can't?


comparing MT Framework with idtech5 which is used to be open gl and now somehow magically became dx11 Laughing
yeah i'd call it fiasco choice

and no surprise that it runs like dog shit on ps4 and x1 mainly cause cpu in them shitboxes are actually worse than ps360 and this game needs raw cpu power
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Adebisi




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Oct 2014 04:13    Post subject:
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and no surprise that it runs like dog shit on ps4 and x1 mainly cause cpu in them shitboxes are actually worse than ps360 and this game needs raw cpu power


I know bashing consoles is your habit but again in this case the complaints should only be to the devs. If PS4 can run a beautiful game like Infamous Second Son that is a sandbox game it can surely run a linear game like The Evil Within.
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Adebisi




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Oct 2014 06:03    Post subject:
I also want to ask unrelated question, who choose what engine to use? does the publisher force the devs to use certain engine? or it's the devs decision?
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Oct 2014 08:54    Post subject:
I guess Bethesda just forced them to use the engine since they now own Id and want to use the new acquired assets


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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Oct 2014 08:56    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
Adebisi wrote:
Patton_ wrote:


Makes sense why they refuse to patch this shit on consoles. Can't imagine how ps4 version will run without them. It's like about 24fps now all the time with drops to 20 or lower at times. -_-

Such a thing almost ruin otherwise great game for me. Sad


This might make sense but it's the devs fault and not like i saw from others that blame consoles for holding it back, Hell Resident Evil 5.. a game 5 years old can do full screen on 360/PS3.. why the hell this can't?


comparing MT Framework with idtech5 which is used to be open gl and now somehow magically became dx11 Laughing
yeah i'd call it fiasco choice

and no surprise that it runs like dog shit on ps4 and x1 mainly cause cpu in them shitboxes are actually worse than ps360 and this game needs raw cpu power


Yeah. Granted that rage was 720p on 360 but it rand at 60 fps all the time. I'd sure knew their engine


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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Oct 2014 10:18    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
comparing MT Framework with idtech5 which is used to be open gl and now somehow magically became dx11 Laughing

Get your facts straight before you spout bullshit please. The Xboxes don't have DirectX; they have something that resembles the D3D API a lot, but it isn't pure D3D. In addition to that though, they have a lower level API and that's what T5 uses. On the PS3 the engine uses CG, not PSGL and that'll be the same on the PS4 now. Carmack's said this loads of times during talks and interviews.

T5 still very much is an OpenGL engine. On Windows it doesn't run with D3D either. The crap they do isn't possible on D3D, it's too strict for that.

It's still the worst engine out there, but what you're saying is bullshit.


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and no surprise that it runs like dog shit on ps4 and x1 mainly cause cpu in them shitboxes are actually worse than ps360 and this game needs raw cpu power

What? No, it isn't and no it doesn't.

The CPU portion of Cell (the PPE) and Xenon are nowhere near as fast. That is exactly why we've seen little to no advances in things like AI, because the old consoles didn't have that kind of power available; the math involved in things like AI doesn't lend itself very well to be run on a GPU. The PS3's single PPE is probably about as fast as ye olde Pentium 3, Xenon sits a little higher because it has more modules, but while it is called a "tri-core" with "6 threads" it's also an in-order design. Each of these modules or cores can process no more than 2 instructions at once (and that's only theoretical too) and has to do it in order; even an Athlon 64 core already did 3 instructions at once and desktop CPUs (Jaguar included) haven't been in-order designs in a decade. So that magical "3 core with hyperthreading" in reality gets the living shit beaten out of it by an underclocked Athlon 64 X2 when you throw things such as AI at it. Neither Cell nor Xenon are good at that stuff. They're both SIMD designs; that means they're closer to a GPU than to a traditional CPU. And _that_ is the problem.

And what exacty do you think the game needs raw CPU power for?
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Oct 2014 19:40    Post subject:
huh game runs in DX11 on pc, while rage is open gl
can't be bothered making screenshots with msi afterburner

game requires latest i7 in order to run at 60 fps and uses only one core, while having double the performance than so called 8 core amd cpu, the real one, not the mobile crap they have in shitboxes

besides it looks no worse on 360 than it does on ps4, with exception of lower resolution, runs better too

kthnxbye
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Oct 2014 16:53    Post subject:
I am playing this game on the second difficulty and it's pretty hard Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Oct 2014 19:05    Post subject:
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I am playing this game on the second difficulty and it's pretty hard Crying or Very sad


Me too. Thats normal right? Im on chapter 5 and the long haired multiarm/leg bitch is doing my head in :/


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Oct 2014 23:01    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
BOOMDOOM wrote:
I am playing this game on the second difficulty and it's pretty hard Crying or Very sad


Me too. Thats normal right? Im on chapter 5 and the long haired multiarm/leg bitch is doing my head in :/
Same! Trying to trap her in the burning pit, but im just not fast enough ;(
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 15:41    Post subject:
Patton_ wrote:
headshot wrote:
Bethesda warned turning off the black bars will affect performance? Hmmm ... Rolling Eyes


Makes sense why they refuse to patch this shit on consoles. Can't imagine how ps4 version will run without them. It's like about 24fps now all the time with drops to 20 or lower at times. -_-

Such a thing almost ruin otherwise great game for me. Sad


24fps is what movies run at. It's all for a more cinematic experience

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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 16:46    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
headshot wrote:
BOOMDOOM wrote:
I am playing this game on the second difficulty and it's pretty hard Crying or Very sad


Me too. Thats normal right? Im on chapter 5 and the long haired multiarm/leg bitch is doing my head in :/
Same! Trying to trap her in the burning pit, but im just not fast enough ;(


I gave up on that idea and after detonating the explosive barrels, I managed to slay the bitch with explosive/incendiary crossbow bolts Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 20:34    Post subject:
So is this unplayable on ps4 because of the frame rate? Cheers. I don't mind the borders tbh Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 20:57    Post subject:
It works fine , yeah I noticed few hitches couple of times and texture loading on some cutscenes...but nothing serious..shitty engine , that's the problem..
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 20:59    Post subject:
thanks
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 21:06    Post subject:
Framerate does feel less than 30fps at times but its not that bad.

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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 22:19    Post subject:
Fuck me this game can get very frustrating. I am now at chapter 11 and almost quit the game a few times. Sometimes you need to kill the big bastards and sometimes you need to run away. I was wasting all my ammo on one part of the game but the game needed me to run away for 10mins before fighting it. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 22:32    Post subject:
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Fuck me this game can get very frustrating. I am now at chapter 11 and almost quit the game a few times. Sometimes you need to kill the big bastards and sometimes you need to run away. I was wasting all my ammo on one part of the game but the game needed me to run away for 10mins before fighting it. Evil or Very Mad


lol thanks for the heads up!

Maybe some good advice is always run away unless you have nowhere to run to and then fight Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 22:36    Post subject:
yep, upgrade that sprint to the max guys, in tough sections it is more useful than any maxxed weapon.

also upgrade that flash bolt, when you are surrounded by 3-4 enemies, you can fire one flash bolt and then stealth kill them all in a row.
one of the best weapons in the game against zombie hordes, obviously its no use against bosses.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Oct 2014 23:52    Post subject:
@The_Zeel <3


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Oct 2014 12:40    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
yep, upgrade that sprint to the max guys, in tough sections it is more useful than any maxxed weapon.

also upgrade that flash bolt, when you are surrounded by 3-4 enemies, you can fire one flash bolt and then stealth kill them all in a row.
one of the best weapons in the game against zombie hordes, obviously its no use against bosses.


It was a closed of section but I needed to shoot some switch while this spider bitch was running for me. I shot all my ammo into her only to find out I needed that switch first Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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