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prudislav
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 16:05    Post subject:
Hellifant wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AV9W2ZdmjU


so he turns off his monitor and pretty much still kills everything and dosent die, good combat !

i guess i fail to do proper mashing - tried mashing in stronghold like he does and got kiled within a minute


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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 16:09    Post subject:
It's the power of the keyboard + mouse combo.
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 16:21    Post subject:
Hellifant wrote:



so he turns off his monitor and pretty much still kills everything and dosent die, good combat !

So people troll Ryse for being stupid mashfest, but they love this retarded bullshit?
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 16:33    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
It's the power of the keyboard + mouse combo.

I would say its power of max leveled(double execute) up character vs lvl 5 captains and random orcs.

I tried to kill everything just by mashing LMB/space but got owned badly couple times (i just got to second map)
BTW: i use K+M
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 16:42    Post subject:
He's far from maxed out. I've done even dumber shit in combat.

Triple knife throw + 'set on fire' rune basically stunlocks entire armies from afar.

Shadowstrike kill + 1 elf-shot back each time rune + combat drain every 5 kills meaning you can do it forever. You're invulnerable while doing it.

I issued death threats to every single captain and they were still all piss easy. It's just an easy game when you understand the mechanics.
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 16:57    Post subject:
well i guess i am play it wrong Laughing but atleast i have fun doing it...

i just cant reproduce the mashing methon on my game :-/ Dying too fast


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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 18:04    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
well i guess i am play it wrong Laughing but atleast i have fun doing it...

i just cant reproduce the mashing methon on my game :-/ Dying too fast


My problem I posted on the previous page happens to be when multiple Captains show up, esp. the ranged ones. They and the other ones whittle down your health when you're taking on groups of 20 Orcs. I don't have aproblem with button mashing, I've been countering easily; but I don't have time to finish off an Orc with the trigger+X on my XBox 360 controller. It's the incoming throwing axes and arrows I'm not able to avoide much since I'm concentrating on countering and trying to finish off the orcs surrounding me.
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 18:24    Post subject:
@briangw Kill the captains quickly by exploiting their weaknesses


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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 19:50    Post subject:
Usually I find running away and getting out of sight of seems to be effective when dealing with multiple Captains and many uruks around. It's very easy to outrun enemies in this game. Just use hit n' run tactics and take out one enemy at a time. Also remember to use the environment to your advantage (ex. lure the enemies near explosive objects or let some caragors out).
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 20:29    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
@briangw Kill the captains quickly by exploiting their weaknesses


Yeah, I realized that after looking more at the intel. I've been tracking those that I can air assassinate but the ground ones that are two or more similar in their strengths/weaknesses where stealth doesn't do anything is kind of tough.

Vryder wrote:
Usually I find running away and getting out of sight of seems to be effective when dealing with multiple Captains and many uruks around. It's very easy to outrun enemies in this game. Just use hit n' run tactics and take out one enemy at a time. Also remember to use the environment to your advantage (ex. lure the enemies near explosive objects or let some caragors out).


I figured that out last night too. The one Power mission where you need to kill the shield captain and his guards in the SW area of the map was tough at first until I realized you can run away and heal yourself.
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 21:12    Post subject:
So how much stress is this game after the branding system? Seems to be a lot of management in addition to making sure your branded orcs doesn't get killed in their own feuds around the map as well.
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 21:15    Post subject:
None whatsoever. You brand the 5 chiefs/make your captains the chiefs, and you're done.

Unless you die a lot or keep forwarding time, nothing changes after that.
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 21:28    Post subject:
There's the occasional blue "brand" mission where you in some way support these "converts" but I skipped them and went full speed into the endgame, can finish off the remaining collectibles and side missions later or so I reasoned. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 21:30    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
None whatsoever. You brand the 5 chiefs/make your captains the chiefs, and you're done.

Unless you die a lot or keep forwarding time, nothing changes after that.

hope they will impove on that system with possible sequel or next game with similar system
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 22:30    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Hellifant wrote:



so he turns off his monitor and pretty much still kills everything and dosent die, good combat !

So people troll Ryse for being stupid mashfest, but they love this retarded bullshit?


I felt that something is wrong with this game Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Oct 2014 22:42    Post subject:
Hellifant wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AV9W2ZdmjU


so he turns off his monitor and pretty much still kills everything and dosent die, good combat !

I usually don't like such vids, but this guy is hilarious So true.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 01:32    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Hellifant wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AV9W2ZdmjU


so he turns off his monitor and pretty much still kills everything and dosent die, good combat !

I usually don't like such vids, but this guy is hilarious So true.

Damn, indeed I could relate to that a lot. Very Happy Laughing

The biggest problem with these games is one and only: the lack of difficulty settings. In this case, it starts off nicely and fairly balanced, your character is yes powerful, but not too much (and you can't actually abuse the one-button-to-rule-em-all strategy because you're not allowed to). But then, once you start unlocking stuff like double insta-executions, practically unlimited arrow shots, uber combat drains, bashing, wraith flash 'n burn powers, and not to mention all the captains standing by your side, it gets like the most typical walk in the pAAArk.

It's a shame, but I'm not even mad anymore. AC and many other streamlined games had the same problem and unfortunately it will stay like this because the target audience doesn't need anything else.
I usually try to steer away from blatantly OP powers/strategies (by not spending skill points, for example), keeping it somewhat challenging and fair, it's the only way for me to have fun.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 11:32    Post subject:
I don't see how a difficulty setting would fix it. They'd just give the enemy more hp and gimp your character, making things frustrating. It's just the way the combat is designed, style over substance.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 11:44    Post subject:
dat video

"Quick" time events that have a bar that fills up over what, 3? 4? seconds Laughing

Glad to see they took the IP and did something good with it Pffchh
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 11:51    Post subject:
epic
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 15:32    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
dat video

"Quick" time events that have a bar that fills up over what, 3? 4? seconds Laughing

Glad to see they took the IP and did something good with it Pffchh


And the final boss "fight" is a sequence of three of those in a row, was kinda disappointed by that.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 15:37    Post subject:
Haha, I just saw the video myself ... holy shit, that's just terrible grinhurt
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prudislav
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 15:43    Post subject:
i still didnt managed to reproduce that mashing LMB while surviving everything, he managed to do in dat video Sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 15:45    Post subject:
that video is a load of crap, he is mashing lmb while in the gameplay there is a pause between each attack, which can only be achieved by clicking with the delay
but yeah whatever Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 15:46    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
i still didnt managed to reproduce that mashing LMB while surviving everything, he managed to do in dat video Sad

after unlocking the stunjump and x5 streak I can take on endless waves of orcs and multiple captains at once... Funny how the difficulty went from challenging to piss easy
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 15:48    Post subject:
well to me i looks like he uses high level skills to beat low level guys
Also what Mortibus said


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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 15:55    Post subject:
I got pummeled to death by one of the Sub-captains (unbreakable shield, can't be jumped over )- 3 times before I realized I was really under powered since I didn't do any of the primary missions early on - didn't have any of the nice wraith abilities.

Really frustrating but I was bored to tears after the same missions. The game is not that bad but I'm kind of bored by sandbox games after finishing AC: Revelations, AC 3 and playing a bit of Watch Dogs.

I'm starting to think that Batman Arkham City was the last sandbox game that I enjoyed without feeling that the side missions were too repetitive.
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 15:55    Post subject:
Yes, It would be impossible to do that with low level abilities
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 16:00    Post subject:
i just tried what he did went in to the stronghold, run around until there were like 50 of them and turned of my monitor and just clicked away, died in a mater of 20-30 seconds
it might work with 4-5 enemies but not with hordes, so yeah i call bs on clicking and surviving without looking
my character is maxed out, if that makes any difference and no i can't be arsed to make a video
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Oct 2014 16:26    Post subject:
you're not a starcraft player, thus you don't have huge APM Cool Face

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