[Android] What phone shuld I get?
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2014 22:21    Post subject:
oneplus one will have pre-order system in October, hence when ordering you will get 1-2 month ETA, if u get invite you can get it asap


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Oct 2014 00:24    Post subject:
whited wrote:
oneplus one will have pre-order system in October, hence when ordering you will get 1-2 month ETA, if u get invite you can get it asap


Easy to order from ibuygou without invite Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Oct 2014 20:15    Post subject:
Not sure why anyone would get a oneplus. If the phone has a problem you're fucked.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Oct 2014 20:17    Post subject:
Yeah, why would anyone get a premium phone for one fourth of the price of other 'premium' phones. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Oct 2014 21:27    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Not sure why anyone would get a oneplus. If the phone has a problem you're fucked.

it's not like it's gonna bend or something
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Oct 2014 21:28    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
Yeah, why would anyone get a premium phone for one fourth of the price of other 'premium' phones. Laughing


The cost is cheap due to little to no support options, among other things. It's a cheaply built and poorly supported product.

Even within Android phones specs shouldn't mean everything. Having a fast phone means nothing when you receive one that's fucked up due to the poor QC and then have fun waiting at least a month for a replacement.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Oct 2014 21:34    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Not sure why anyone would get a oneplus. If the phone has a problem you're fucked.

it's not like it's gonna bend or something


Instead you'll have a greater chance then any other phone to get a yellow screen, touchscreen issues, and a whole list of other issues. You'll then be fucked because your replacement/warranty options suck.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Oct 2014 22:10    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Mortibus wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Not sure why anyone would get a oneplus. If the phone has a problem you're fucked.

it's not like it's gonna bend or something


Instead you'll have a greater chance then any other phone to get a yellow screen, touchscreen issues, and a whole list of other issues. You'll then be fucked because your replacement/warranty options suck.


Well iphone doesn't replace the phone either for that bending issue Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Oct 2014 22:18    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Prefetian wrote:
Yeah, why would anyone get a premium phone for one fourth of the price of other 'premium' phones. Laughing


The cost is cheap due to little to no support options, among other things. It's a cheaply built and poorly supported product.

Even within Android phones specs shouldn't mean everything. Having a fast phone means nothing when you receive one that's fucked up due to the poor QC and then have fun waiting at least a month for a replacement.


Mchart wrote:
Mortibus wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Not sure why anyone would get a oneplus. If the phone has a problem you're fucked.

it's not like it's gonna bend or something


Instead you'll have a greater chance then any other phone to get a yellow screen, touchscreen issues, and a whole list of other issues.


Can you back that up or are you just making stuff up because it doesn't have an apple logo on it?

Because this is what you're doing otherwise;

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Don't get an iPhone because there's no support for them and the apps are made from people who don't know how to tie their shoes and wear fagwear around thir bungholes.


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Oct 2014 22:46    Post subject:
Both my iPhone and m8 are easily replaced by either company under warranty.

Good luck with your oneplus.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Oct 2014 22:47    Post subject:
Laughing
What I thought, you can't back it up.


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Oct 2014 23:08    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
Laughing
What I thought, you can't back it up.


Goto any forum. It's a well known issue. The screen yellowing is well documented.

You miss the point I make. Every phone has issues. QC is never perfect. Shit gets through. At least with most other phone brands your warranty options will quickly resolve these issues. With the oneplus your support is complete shit, and you'll be waiting eons for a replacement phone under warranty.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Oct 2014 23:28    Post subject:
Mchart is right about the yellow band and multitouch problems, although I'm not sure how widespread they are, and they don't seem to be present in later batches. Obviously people who are having problems are going to flood the forums with complaints (as they should) while the rest are enjoying their phones.
Still, the issues are definitely not made up and you have to decide for yourself if the risk is worth it. I ended up getting a OnePlus instead of a Nexus 5 and it's flawless so far, but if anything goes wrong later on, RMAing it is going to be a bit tricky. But 330$ with free shipping for the 64Gb version was just too hard to resist.
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Oct 2014 00:16    Post subject:
@Mchart

But there is warranty, you're making it sound as if there is none.
But yeah, if the ghosting persists than it's definitely flawed and should be fixed.
It's still however a phone that costs around 1/3 of what most premium phones cost.


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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Oct 2014 00:26    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
@Mchart

But there is warranty, you're making it sound as if there is none.
But yeah, if the ghosting persists than it's definitely flawed and should be fixed.
It's still however a phone that costs around 1/3 of what most premium phones cost.


Yes, there is a warranty.

But warranties differ.

Look at the PC market for instance. EVGA has a far better warranty then let us say MSI. If you have a MSI card that breaks - Good fucking luck. No advance RMA, standard 1 year warranty where you have to send your part back first. It fucking sucks.

With smartphone's it's the same. Different companies offer better warranties. Apple obviously has the strength here assuming you have Apple stores nearby. You take the phone in, and the same visit leave with a full replacement. It couldn't be simpler. HTC also has a strong warranty, as they have advanced RMA and the 6-month free replacement regardless of what you do to the phone.

The one plus however; Shit blows if you need a replacement, and the RMA service is so horrible that most people just opt to deal with whatever problems they get with the phone.

So sure, you're saving money up front. But if you ever have any issues that savings quickly becomes irrelevant because now you're without your phone for over a month waiting for a replacement.
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Oct 2014 00:40    Post subject:
With apple it depends on what plan you have and even at times when you've got their top notch one you're still screwed.
Also, a 1 year warranty for smartphones is usually more than sufficient.
My sister has an iPhone 5s and she's dropped it a bunch of times, not once did apple offer her to change the glass for free (instead it was around 1000SEK so 1/6th of the cost of the phone).
People with their bent phones and best warranty plans, didn't get new phones.

Again, if this thing had an apple logo on it you'd eat it up like shitcakes and ask for more but since it's not I guess it's just another shit phone for you. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Oct 2014 01:13    Post subject:
That's why i prefer to buy my electronic devices from Amazon directly, even if it costs more.
You get a new device pretty fast, or even get a full refund during your warranty time. Let them handle the fuss with the device manufacturers Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Oct 2014 01:50    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
With apple it depends on what plan you have and even at times when you've got their top notch one you're still screwed.
Also, a 1 year warranty for smartphones is usually more than sufficient.
My sister has an iPhone 5s and she's dropped it a bunch of times, not once did apple offer her to change the glass for free (instead it was around 1000SEK so 1/6th of the cost of the phone).
People with their bent phones and best warranty plans, didn't get new phones.

Again, if this thing had an apple logo on it you'd eat it up like shitcakes and ask for more but since it's not I guess it's just another shit phone for you. Laughing


No, if it had an Apple logo on it I'd say it was just as stupid as the 6 or 6 derp because it's too big.

If you break the screen on your Oneplus you aren't getting a free replacement either. So I'm not really sure what your argument is here. The only company currently offering a free replacement regardless of the damage type under the first 6 months of warranty is HTC.

Of course, I'm not talking about USER INFLICTED DAMAGE. I'm talking about flaws present from the factory, such as a yellowing screen, stuck buttons, etc.

You really are clueless.
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Oct 2014 08:21    Post subject:
Let me put it like this then.
How many people do you know are getting help from apple because they updated their phone to the latest OS and it basically broke the phone for them?
How helpful are apple then?
Let me guess, it's USER INFLICTED DAMAGE (but caused by an official update from the company). Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Oct 2014 09:59    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
Let me put it like this then.
How many people do you know are getting help from apple because they updated their phone to the latest OS and it basically broke the phone for them?
How helpful are apple then?
Let me guess, it's USER INFLICTED DAMAGE (but caused by an official update from the company). Laughing


I've known quite a few people who have taken their phones into Apple because they fucked up iOS with a jailbreak and were too lazy to fix it themselves. 'Genius' Bar people replaced the phone under warranty no cost.

The only time Apple tends to assess the replacement fee while a device is under warranty is when the device has had it's water damage sensors pop, screen cracked, etc.

They don't care enough to know if it's a self induced problem at the software level, and they'll likely take it in the back and restore it anyways if they don't replace it.

Anyone who's owned an apple device knows how easy it is to game the system and get a free replacement device under warranty. When I had my iPhone 5 I told them that the phone would 'pop' while playing music. They couldn't reproduce the issue. They still gave me a new phone anyways. I made the 'popping' issue up. I really just wanted a new phone because it was 1 month away from being out of warranty and the phone had a bunch of scratches from my keys on it.

Now, if you're talking about factory flaws in regard to Apple products you don't even have to make shit up to get that stuff replaced. The shitty power button on the iPhone 5 has always been a free replacement as long as the device was under warranty. Same goes with the yellowing screen on the iPhone 4, and myriad other factory defects that every iPhone has had.

Not really sure what the point of your post was though. What exactly are you trying to convey here? Are you suggesting that people shouldn't care about having decent warranty service options? I guess if you really don't care then the Oneplus is the perfect phone. Just know that you're rolling the dice though. The device is cheap for a reason, and that reason isn't because the company is in the business of loosing money. It's because they're saving costs somewhere, and that somewhere happens to be after sales support.
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Oct 2014 11:03    Post subject:
Then your very lucky I guess.
On the 4 the menu button for some reason gets stuck and was causing issues, no replacement, had to buy the 4s (this was within the time of warranty).
My GF's 4s is acting up where the mute on/off button keeps going on and off while just lying still, no replacement (while still under warranty).

My point is that you're acting as if the warranty is more important than the phone and that apple are the best ever with super quality phones and support. When in fact it's quality in both support and product are on par with other (note, not oneplus here) manufacturers.


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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Oct 2014 13:06    Post subject:
+1 Mchart , never had any issue with Apple to replace me the whole iphone for a buggy power button, home button, hell i even told them this sometimes soi could get a new iphone and they would still replace it.

These days I think they aren't replacing it so easily, they are trying to fix it first in the Apple store.

But not fixing it while still under warranty ? Not sure if serious Prefetian...


Wanna know how good is Apple customer service ?

I had bought a Thunderbolt to DVI adapter, but ended up noticing that the DVI2VGA adapter I had from some PC GPU didn't fit with it. So I asked them, 4 months later (so no warranty, cuz there is only a 15 days warranty on accessories) if it was possible to change it.

They told me the warranty had expired, but they would send me a Thunderbolt to VGA adapter for free and could keep my DVI one. Sure it's only 30€, but it's still proof of an awesome customer service...

Plus, the "Geniuses" are always really nice and well educated, you can see they are forcing themselves sure, but at least it's a nice way to handle customers.
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Oct 2014 19:17    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
Then your very lucky I guess.
On the 4 the menu button for some reason gets stuck and was causing issues, no replacement, had to buy the 4s (this was within the time of warranty).
My GF's 4s is acting up where the mute on/off button keeps going on and off while just lying still, no replacement (while still under warranty).

My point is that you're acting as if the warranty is more important than the phone and that apple are the best ever with super quality phones and support. When in fact it's quality in both support and product are on par with other (note, not oneplus here) manufacturers.


So you argued all this time to admit what I was saying about the oneplus?

The fuck.

And for the record I said HTC and Apple have better support. You're a broken record in assuming everything is about Apple.
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Oct 2014 20:56    Post subject:
Ok, let's recap.
Does the phone cost 1/3 of other manufacturers? Yes!
Does it have a warranty? Yes!
What's the problem? Don't answer, it's a rhetorical question.


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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Oct 2014 20:57    Post subject:
Them argument skillz Facepalm
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Oct 2014 20:58    Post subject:
Not everyone can be a hasbara pro. Laughing


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LeoNatan wrote:
Them argument skillz Facepalm


Well it's funny to read anyway Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Oct 2014 13:40    Post subject:
Sauronich wrote:
Mchart is right about the yellow band and multitouch problems, although I'm not sure how widespread they are, and they don't seem to be present in later batches. Obviously people who are having problems are going to flood the forums with complaints (as they should) while the rest are enjoying their phones.
Still, the issues are definitely not made up and you have to decide for yourself if the risk is worth it. I ended up getting a OnePlus instead of a Nexus 5 and it's flawless so far, but if anything goes wrong later on, RMAing it is going to be a bit tricky. But 330$ with free shipping for the 64Gb version was just too hard to resist.

This. I don't want to write a whole story about it, but this phone is excellent. Galaxy S5 and One M8 can suck on it.


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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Oct 2014 13:54    Post subject:
A colleague has now his 4th iPhone5. It's nice from apple to replace it that often without any hassle though, but 4 devices in 2 years is a bit much :/

(power button broke, he got a new one. camera suddenly took shitty pictures due to hardware failure, he got a new one and while he was restoring his backup in the genius bar they immediately saw that the display had errors and gave him a 4th one)


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Oct 2014 21:11    Post subject:
Ok, the Aquos Chrystal might be worth a look if your on a budget.

It has its drawbacks but, my word, it looks a hell of a phone for its price of $150!! 5.0" screen, and still smaller than a nexus 4!!


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