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 Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 09:29 Post subject: |
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No armour shows on your characters. It doesn't matter anyway, pretty soon you'll want to take that armour off. By the time you can wear the best armour in the game, it's a liability because of the way that energy weapons work. You probably want to stick with armour that has a rating of around 5 or 6.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 15:25 Post subject: |
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| EternalBlueScreen wrote: | I'd have to carry mine around and swap it out with something else whenever I'm facing enemies with energy weapons (always so sparkly thingies cuz energy). Oh and apparently blunt dmg works nicely against heavy armor, too. The power armor is supposedly supported by a motor for increased mobility but the character loses combat speed as if such a motor doesn't exist. You'd imagine "Power armor" to make you at least stronger if not quicker. If you're a melee character and you wanted to use a Power Armor (space marines ftw) then getting to your enemies will be slightly harder at least with the set I have now. What's the point, really. Lazy game design. Hunk-a-junk.
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Game mechanics certainly aren't on par with everything else. Skills are manly used for opening containers. While weapons and attributes are poorly balanced.
Combat initiative is single most important combat stat in the game. It heavily outweighs accuracy that you anyway gain with skill points, and also isn't as important for certain weapons (machine guns, heavy weapons, shotguns).
Luck, criticals, number of APs and high accuracy that enable headshots are vastly inferior to high combat initiative (speed/awareness), and speed per ap that you gain from high awareness and speed attributes. That combo enables you to act twice, or even three times per combat, and get with ease into cover or out of danger.
I'm too far to start again, but my other playthrough will definitely have all the main Rangers at one luck and a minimum of six in both awareness and speed.
Oh, and what's with charisma, other than being used for leadership? It says it has some effect on conversations, but I really haven't noticed any difference.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 15:44 Post subject: |
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They nerfed charisma during beta, apparently. It's pretty much a dump stat now, the same as luck. There are a couple of NPCs though who's recruitment is charisma locked (minimum party charisma total of 20-25+). Probably not worth what you have to give up in exchange though. There are a whole bunch of threads over on the official forums if you are interested in min-maxing.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 16:08 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 16:20 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | | At the prison |
Did you
 Spoiler: | talk to him on the intercom and tell him you had the cure? |
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 16:28 Post subject: |
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So who finished this game and on what difficulty? Damonta raped me hard, 2 rangers died. Off to LA, with only 4 rangers
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couleur
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 16:31 Post subject: |
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Am I missing something or are the shrines completely useless except for a few measly xp?
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 16:32 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 16:34 Post subject: |
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Weird. Turrets, while red, didnt shoot at me and everyone inside that fort were "friendly"
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 16:42 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | | Am I missing something or are the shrines completely useless except for a few measly xp? |
They can have attribute points for you to allocate as well.
@Vikerness I haven't finished it yet, taking my time, but I'm playing on Ranger difficulty and I find the difficulty to vary a lot; sometimes I get completely trashed, but it depends on which missions you decide to take on first. If you're lucky and pick the right missions it is a smoother ride I'm sure, but I haven't, so quick-load/quick-save is my friend.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 17:08 Post subject: |
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Turrets don't point forward when they're not hostile anymore, they point sideways.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 17:21 Post subject: |
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All shrines should grant a single skill point. Given there is something 15 or 20 shrines in the game, that makes them extremely valuable. They are more or less mandatory on the highest difficulty.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 18:16 Post subject: |
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| DCB wrote: | | All shrines should grant a single skill point. Given there is something 15 or 20 shrines in the game, that makes them extremely valuable. They are more or less mandatory on the highest difficulty. |
STATUES grant skill points, shrines on the world map grant ATTRIBUTE points.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 18:25 Post subject: |
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| riptide77 wrote: | | DCB wrote: | | All shrines should grant a single skill point. Given there is something 15 or 20 shrines in the game, that makes them extremely valuable. They are more or less mandatory on the highest difficulty. |
STATUES grant skill points, shrines on the world map grant ATTRIBUTE points. |
Nope. They changed it so shrines just give XP
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 18:36 Post subject: |
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When? The latest patch?
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 18:39 Post subject: |
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i found a cat shrine in a cave very early on in my very firest retail playgthrough, gave all my rangers +1 stat which pissed me off as u need +2 to boost skills pfft
im gonna put this game on the bench for now, the ui is to time consuming , someone will hopefuly fix it and in 6 months or so ill save myself a lot of time and cursing on such time wasting gimmicks
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 18:40 Post subject: |
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| riptide77 wrote: | | When? The latest patch? |
Since release
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 19:18 Post subject: |
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maybe there is different kinds of shrines, ones that give xp and ones hat give skillpoints, what animal was the shrine for the xp one?
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couleur
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 19:20 Post subject: |
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I had three shrines on the Arizona map, giving me only XP. They mostly had some text on them.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 21:01 Post subject: |
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so far i found one statue in the first area you travel to, one in highpool and one in wreckers hq
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 21:06 Post subject: |
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| trucane wrote: | | riptide77 wrote: | | When? The latest patch? |
Since release |
Erm, no they do give +1 Stat points, unless something else is giving stat bonuses too. Will test it soon since I have a new shrine on the map.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 22:37 Post subject: |
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| riptide77 wrote: | | trucane wrote: | | riptide77 wrote: | | When? The latest patch? |
Since release |
Erm, no they do give +1 Stat points, unless something else is giving stat bonuses too. Will test it soon since I have a new shrine on the map. |
I thought the only source of attribute points was one every 10 levels. |
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Sep 2014 22:57 Post subject: |
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Just lost 5 hours of playtime...
At the prison and I thought, let's hide all my chars behind the sandbags and shoot a turret with my sniper... whole party dead so I giggled... Load game and *RAGE* No autosave and the last save was from when I ate 5 hours ago. fricking stupid autosave... Apparently timed autosave is off by default.
Have to redo everything.  |
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 00:00 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | | I had three shrines on the Arizona map, giving me only XP. They mostly had some text on them. |
Same on five map shrines in Arizona. Got some macabre finger necklace in loot hole before one of them, tho. -1 perception, +1 on two skills.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 00:02 Post subject: |
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gazzu
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Sep 2014 00:14 Post subject: |
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