Wasteland 2
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DCB




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 10:42    Post subject:
The game is clearly made to be played from a fixed isometric viewpoint. The graphics are perfectly adequate for that, but obviously aren't super fantastic when zoomed in close. I don't deny that they could use some improvement, but on the list of things the game could stand to see improved, I'd put graphical elements down near the bottom. To me that's the sort of thing you open up to modders and leave it to them.

Somewhat relevant, I lol'd at this:

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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 12:01    Post subject:
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 12:27    Post subject:
How are you guys getting SweetFX to work on the legit Steam copy? I've tried a couple of setups and none of them work because if you try to launch the game from Steam nothing happens .. no load, no error, nothing. It loads if you run the WL2.exe file directly but then you lose out on Steam integration.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 12:51    Post subject:
Apparently you have to force the game to run in DX9 mode.

http://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/CommandLineArguments.html

"-force-d3d9"

(Beta did not support DirectX 11 but the full version does, I don't think it adds anything and is primarily for performance reasons.)
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 12:54    Post subject:
I am, bud Sad



Trying to launch via Steam has my profile icon turn green, says "playing Wasteland 2" and then nothing. No window, no error. If I remove the SweetFX d3d9.dll then the game launches properly.
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ramalan




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 13:00    Post subject:
Skip the steam then if its not a big issue, just download iso. You already supported the devs anyway. I can live without overlays/chats/achievements and other crap in my rpg games, and this game needs sweet fx like no other, without it its vaseline fest all over the place.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 13:03    Post subject:
I don't want to skip Steam, if I wanted to skip that I would have just pirated it grinhurt
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 13:07    Post subject:
Try adding a steam_appid.txt file where the exe is - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\Common\Wasteland 2\Build - and in that file use it's AppID number which is 240760 - http://steamdb.info/app/240760/ - this should work.

Although I am not 100% sure if the Steam overlay (If enabled, I have it disabled for compatibility reasons.) will be entirely functional but I do use a Steam_AppId.txt file for every game on Steam so I can launch the exe directly (With shortcuts or .bat file for command line parameters and such if needed.) and there's no problems with achievements (Well I SAM anyway.) or card drops plus Cloud should work too.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 13:10    Post subject:
Thanks JB! I'll give it a try Smile

~edit~

Nope, still no Steam integration. fuck it. I guess everyone with SweetFX is using the non-Steam copy Sad


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DCB




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 13:10    Post subject:
Hrmm, running into a lot of quest bugs in LA. You can really tell that Arizona benefited massively from beta feedback in comparison. There's a fairly major bug in Angel Oracle that I fortunately managed to luck onto a method to trigger the quest to (mostly) finish properly without resorting to the dev's suggested workaround (a fix is coming in the first patch, apparently). Now I'm in Hollywood and jesus, there are bugs galore. Broken dialogue, screwed up quest progression, etc.
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ramalan




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 13:14    Post subject:
Is there whole other map after that first one? I hadnt been to demonta yet but I`ve checked everything in the radiation zones. Does the map change completely or are just new places appear on it out of nowhere?
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 13:56    Post subject:
All new map. You're at the point where the transition will shortly be explained.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 14:31    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Thanks JB! I'll give it a try Smile

~edit~

Nope, still no Steam integration. fuck it. I guess everyone with SweetFX is using the non-Steam copy Sad


Had the same problem with steam, the game wouldn't launch with SweetFX.
I somehow made it to work, by putting only the .dll files (d3d9 and dxgi) and injector.ini in the build folder. All other SweetFX files went to Wasteland 2 folder. It's the first time I've tried SweetFX so I have no idea if that's how it is supposed to work.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 14:41    Post subject:
DCB wrote:
All new map. You're at the point where the transition will shortly be explained.


Thanks, was afraid thats all.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 15:01    Post subject:
So how many locations do you have to go through in AZ to move to LA to continue the story?
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DCB




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 15:10    Post subject:
Well you can skip at least one location entirely (I almost accidentally did so, because I forgot to go there early on). There are 2 large, 2 medium, and 3 or 4 small locations you have to go to, plus the aforementioned optional medium one.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 16:00    Post subject:
@KGen

Sigh Sad Still no go here, I'm afraid. I'll keep trying and I'm sure I'll find a way - thanks guys!
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 16:04    Post subject:
@sabin1981
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I guess everyone with SweetFX is using the non-Steam copy


I'm using the steam copy.

Try this:

- download http://speedy.sh/bJxVE/sfx-sausage-1.3.rar and a sweetfx preset you want to use

- put d3d9.dll,dxgi.dll,injector.ini where the game's exe is

- put all other files/folders into the game's main directory

- set -force-d3d9

I have steam overlay and sweetfx working just fine with this setup on win 7 64.

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so I have no idea if that's how it is supposed to work.

generally you need to unpack sweetfx into a folder where a game's .exe is but in case of W2 we have to do it the other way, I have no idea why


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 16:25    Post subject:
@h0rnyfavn

Bingo! You rock, nice one! I tried that before and it seems that even the d3d9.fx files have to be moved from BUILD as well. Thanks bud Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 16:28    Post subject:
@sabin1981

I'm glad it worked;)

PS Didn't KGen post the same method? I've just noticed it above Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 16:28    Post subject:
Doh! Sorry about that KGen, I didn't see your post Facepalm
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 18:28    Post subject:
Zotten wrote:
nforules wrote:
ramalan wrote:
Obviously hes right, anyway game looks good enough with that sweet fx preset, enough to not annoy me with its visuals. And the fact that you cant see armor sux, there are just few of them, wtf fargo, wtf. Starting clothes option also suck ass, some good shit is only avaliable on female characters while you can make male char look like dragqueen, meh. That said, gameplay is the best thing since fallout 2 so I can easily turn a blind eye here and there, tho some locations could be designed better (not in terms of visual but in terms of pure design - object/mob placements and so on).

Another question - how can I make Rick my team member? Just took radiation suits from his place and as for now only option avaliable is to either run around with him or return him to prison. Is he avaliable later or what?


Link to sweetfx preset, thanks


I think it was this one : http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/game/678/


Thanks man! Smile

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@sabin1981
Quote:
I guess everyone with SweetFX is using the non-Steam copy


I'm using the steam copy.

Try this:

- download http://speedy.sh/bJxVE/sfx-sausage-1.3.rar and a sweetfx preset you want to use

- put d3d9.dll,dxgi.dll,injector.ini where the game's exe is

- put all other files/folders into the game's main directory

- set -force-d3d9

I have steam overlay and sweetfx working just fine with this setup on win 7 64.

@KGen
Quote:
so I have no idea if that's how it is supposed to work.

generally you need to unpack sweetfx into a folder where a game's .exe is but in case of W2 we have to do it the other way, I have no idea why


And another thank you, had the same problem as sabin

much appreciated guys
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 18:44    Post subject:
How do the bugs affect the game? Just a minor thing? Or does it spoil the fun?

I don't mind waiting half a year for them to patch it up.

So what do you guys think?
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 18:50    Post subject:
De_TURK wrote:
How do the bugs affect the game? Just a minor thing? Or does it spoil the fun?

I don't mind waiting half a year for them to patch it up.

So what do you guys think?


half a year? really? This is not battlefield 4. Wasteland 2 is perfectly playable Smile



The sweetfx link above, they turned wasteland 2 into color/sharp land.

There must be a better preset that doesn't alter too much
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 18:52    Post subject:
nforules wrote:
De_TURK wrote:
How do the bugs affect the game? Just a minor thing? Or does it spoil the fun?

I don't mind waiting half a year for them to patch it up.

So what do you guys think?


half a year? really? This is not battlefield 4. Wasteland 2 is perfectly playable Smile



The sweetfx link above, they turned wasteland 2 into color/sharp land.

There must be a better preset that doesn't alter too much


Just disable everything except SMAA and Lumasharpen. Turn Lumasharpen down to 1.4 or so.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 19:06    Post subject:
Can you kill those travelling merchants without any consequences? And which kind of loot do they drop, what they are selling?
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 19:12    Post subject:
randir14 wrote:
nforules wrote:
De_TURK wrote:
How do the bugs affect the game? Just a minor thing? Or does it spoil the fun?

I don't mind waiting half a year for them to patch it up.

So what do you guys think?


half a year? really? This is not battlefield 4. Wasteland 2 is perfectly playable Smile



The sweetfx link above, they turned wasteland 2 into color/sharp land.

There must be a better preset that doesn't alter too much


Just disable everything except SMAA and Lumasharpen. Turn Lumasharpen down to 1.4 or so.


thank you Smile

now the game looks better but still remains with the wasteland look
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ramalan




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 19:12    Post subject:
nforules wrote:
De_TURK wrote:
How do the bugs affect the game? Just a minor thing? Or does it spoil the fun?

I don't mind waiting half a year for them to patch it up.

So what do you guys think?


half a year? really? This is not battlefield 4. Wasteland 2 is perfectly playable Smile



The sweetfx link above, they turned wasteland 2 into color/sharp land.

There must be a better preset that doesn't alter too much


There is ingame saturation slider, I turned it all the way down + lowered brightness a bit, looks great with sweet fx.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 19:42    Post subject:
mehhh, when i use SFX theres stuff missing in game..

like bushes and such...



Comparsion...

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/93030

is there a way around it?


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