Different versions of Visual Studio
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infini
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005 19:28    Post subject: Different versions of Visual Studio
I saw in the nfo section that Visual Studio 2005 professional has been released. Can someone write which are the different versions of Visual Studio 2005 and the one that has the most features? Thanks
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jaguar1




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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005 23:21    Post subject:
There are 3 editions:
1) Team Suite
2) Role-based team edition
3) Professional edition

Team suite being the most expensive.
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indiana




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2005 01:45    Post subject:
Since you ask, you probably don't need more than the express or the standard edition. What are you trying to accomplish?

Read this:
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/productinfo/productline/default.aspx
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infini
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2005 08:22    Post subject:
Ok, thanks for the link!
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2005 12:20    Post subject:
It is never a matter of what you REALLY need or not. It is more about getting the biggest and greatest version of it.... Very Happy

Like Visual Studio .NET 2003 Enterprise Architect, that was the only one for me... Razz



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infini
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 18:38    Post subject:
Anybody knows if the professional edition released by ZWTISO includes the MSDN documentation?
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Nov 2005 22:34    Post subject:
infini wrote:
Anybody knows if the professional edition released by ZWTISO includes the MSDN documentation?


I am not sure if it does as I have not installed and tested yet. However there were a "MSDN for Visual Studio 2005" a few days ago.



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s0l1dsn8k3




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 07:36    Post subject:
infini wrote:
Anybody knows if the professional edition released by ZWTISO includes the MSDN documentation?

ZWTISO release has a directory named MSDN. The size of the folder's contents as reported by Windows' folder properties is 1.55GB (1.67 Gbytes). I haven't install it yet so I don't know if it is the full MSDN.

There was a "MSDN Library For Visual Studio 2005" released by JUSTISO and its nfo file says that it "... provides access to over 1.8GB of comprehensive programming information ..." With the size difference, I don't know if the MSDN folder from VS2005 is the same or different from the MSDN Library by JUSTISO.

Does anyone know that can clearify this??


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JumpyJim




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 09:50    Post subject:
The sizes on MSDN for final versions are:

MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2005 - DVD (English) named en_msdn_vs_2005_dvd.iso is 1595 MB in size.

Visual Studio 2005 Professional Edition - DVD - (English) named en_vs_2005_pro_dvd.iso is 2760 MB in size.

Visual Studio 2005 Standard Edition - DVD - (English) named en_vs_2005_std_dvd.iso is 2672 MB in size.

Visual Studio 2005 Team Edition for Software Architects - DVD - (English) named en_vs_2005_vsta_dvd.iso is 3617 MB in size.

So I would assume anything equal or larger than Standard edition would contain the MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2005.


ZX81 fanboy.


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infini
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 11:35    Post subject:
I think the team suite edition is still in beta stage
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trevaaar




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Nov 2005 10:04    Post subject:
I'm pretty sure all the editions are final now, but unfortunately only Professional has seen a release. I'm waiting for Team Suite final before I download anything. Hopefully somebody will do it when VS hits stores in a few days. Damn you MSDN users!
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Nov 2005 12:17    Post subject:
Smile

Microsoft.Visual.Studio.2005.Team.Edition.For.Software.Developers.DVD-ZWTiSO
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JumpyJim




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Nov 2005 14:47    Post subject:
All the above MSDN details are final builds.


ZX81 fanboy.
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trevaaar




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2005 11:51    Post subject:
Is there a difference between Team Edition for Software Developers and Team Edition for Software Architects? And on the MSDN version comparison page it says Team System, and the WinBeta release was called Team Suite, which one is which?
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2005 13:55    Post subject:
On MSDN there isn't a standalone version of Team Edition for Software Developers. But:


"Visual Studio 2005 Team System (Visual Studio 2005 Team Edition for Software Architects - DVD - 2005-10-27 19:10:46)

The new Visual Studio Team System expands significantly on Microsoft’s demonstrated successes in delivering highly productive tools, by offering businesses tightly integrated and extensible lifecycle tools to increase the predictability of their software development process.

With Visual Studio Team System, organizations can:

Reduce the complexity of delivering modern service-oriented solutions that are designed for operations
Facilitate collaboration among all members of a software team, speeding development time and ensuring the predictability and reliability of the development process
Customize and extend the Team System with their own internal tools and process frameworks, or choose from over 450 supplemental products from over 190 partners

Visual Studio Team System consists of:

Visual Studio Team Foundation Server, an extensible team collaboration server that enables all members of the extended IT team to effortlessly manage and track the progress and health of projects
Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Architects, visual designers that enable architects, operations managers, and developers to design service-oriented solutions that can be validated against their operational environments
Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Developers, advanced development tools that enable teams to build reliable, mission-critical services and applications
Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Testers, advanced load testing tools that enable teams to verify the performance of applications prior to deployment
Visual Studio Team Suite, bundle of Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Architects, Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Developers, and Visual Studio Team Edition for Software Testers

Proven process guidance, prescriptive architectural guidance, and solution accelerators that assist organizations in improving the predictability and reliability of delivering mission-critical solutions"


So either they have ripped out parts of the Team Suite and re-released them as seperate editions: [X] Yes [ ] No

Or they have exclusive access to internal Microsoft builds: [ ] Yes [X] No

I'll let you decide.


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jaguar1




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2005 16:38    Post subject:
I have the Professional edition but am also waiting for the team suite. The Team suite will include everything the different Team Editions have.

more info:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/vs2005/editions/team/compare/
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2005 17:33    Post subject:
Im on Team edition here at work right now. The TFS blows the old VSS away.


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ManBlooD




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2005 18:41    Post subject:
i never like visual studio 2005


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2005 18:44    Post subject:
real programmers use notepad.
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trevaaar




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Nov 2005 07:09    Post subject:
I'm surprised nobody's done the full team suite yet... Would that be massive (10gb or so, since it has TESA, TESD and TEST in it) or would it just be around 3.6gb (around the same size as the TESD release by ZWT) like the WinBeta release?
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Nov 2005 11:26    Post subject:
SceneLeader , yes .. i do


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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Nov 2005 09:37    Post subject:
Im using the Microsoft.Visual.Studio.NET.2003.Enterprise.Architect.PROPER-TBE rls. what 2005 version should i get? all i need is a web .NET programming.
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Nov 2005 05:39    Post subject:
trevaaar wrote:
I'm surprised nobody's done the full team suite yet... Would that be massive (10gb or so, since it has TESA, TESD and TEST in it) or would it just be around 3.6gb (around the same size as the TESD release by ZWT) like the WinBeta release?
The Team Suite has been released, just not by an official group. It's still a single DVD: 3.54 GB ISO, but includes all the team editions as well as MSDN and the VS Tools for Office and Visual SourceSafe.
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