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 Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005 03:08 Post subject: Transfer CPU from laptop to desktop |
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WOuld it be possible to transfer a 3Ghz Pentium4 from a laptop to my desktop? And place the desktop's 2Ghz Pentium4 inside the laptop?
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005 03:24 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005 07:54 Post subject: |
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haha...
...but you could plug your peripherals into your laptop so you wouldn't know the difference.
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pancake
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005 11:19 Post subject: |
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all depends what laptop you have really , if its a laptop with a desktop p4 processor then you should be able to
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005 14:08 Post subject: |
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| pancake wrote: | | all depends what laptop you have really , if its a laptop with a desktop p4 processor then you should be able to |
Laptops DONT HAVE desktop CPU's in them.. DONT. The only thing you could do is buy a mobile motherboard for your desktop PC and put the CPU from the laptop into that, but then your laptop would have no CPU.
THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005 16:42 Post subject: |
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this made me laugh  .... and probably made syn cry.
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pancake
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005 21:11 Post subject: |
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It did make me cry, Im still crying!
P4 CPU's are not used in notebooks, P4 based cpu's are used, they could not be removed and added into a desktop machine. There are also P4-M's which are optimised for mobile use, these are not based on the same arc's simply named like that to pull in the crowds.
P4's could be used in notebooks, maybe Alienware use them (MAYBE) but the heat put off a desktop P4 is far too hot for a notebook. Having worked along side various design teams I have seen 90% of the cpu's avalible today, including P4's. P4-M's and P4 notebook cpu's, the temp differences between a desktop P4 and a Notebook based P4 is around 25-40 degree's.
As for me "trying to make out other people are noobs" I didnt do that at all, I didnt insult anyone at all and while you say I made myself look stupid, I have much more experience in this field than anyone else around here, so I feel Im in a better place to comment.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005 21:38 Post subject: |
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sorry syn, but that is simply not true. You can buy a lot of notebooks over here with desktop P4 cpus. Especially the cheaper models do have them. And they have the exact same core as the desktop cpus. They usually have different packaging because most notebooks have the cpus solderd on the system board. But i have seen some (during the days i worked as a service technician) wich had a usual 478 socket there you could simply change the cpu yourself. The temps on these cpus were the same as for desktops, thats why really cheap notebooks do make so much noise and last not long on battery.
Elitegroup did sell notebook barebones wich you could build up yourself with standard So478 cpus. And like i said, cheap brands like targa, gericom etc all sell notebooks with desktop cpu cores. You can verify that by simply checking the sSpec number online. Although the number of these notebooks on the market is declining.
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2005 23:00 Post subject: |
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This is the point though, the only people who make them have to create custom motherboards and chipsets in order to make it work. The voltages/FSB/bus types etc are all utterly different in a desktop machine when compaired to a notbook, they're not generically compatible. This certainly isnt the norm and couldn't be done with just "any old notbook" - Alienware for example are well known for the creation of custom hardware to fit the needs of its customers, it doesnt suppirse me that they have notebooks which use desktop CPU's as they have also build custom desktop GFX cards for notebooks.
Most of the companies who do this use CPU's such as the C2, not Intel/AMD stock CPU's, mainly because it wouldnt produce a quality product. I would hate to feel the heat comming off a laptop using a P4 prescott core haha  !
To add another point, you can easily use a CPU core in the production of a laptop, it does not mean it is an actuall DESKTOP CPU when you tried to pull it out. As you said, a lot of notebooks have CPU's bound to them, this would also be the case in many of the "desktop p4" notebooks, you couldnt fit in all of the correct mounting needed.
Needless to say, from my experience this is certainly "out there"  - I totally accept your argument whoKnows and admit I was wrong to some degree, I do this because you have personal experience in the field rather than someone simply showing me links which go on about P4 based cpu's. We do need to point out though, this is not an easy situation to simply put a correct answer too, notebooks are not standardised like the x86 pc market, you never know what your going to get when you give OEM's freedom .
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pancake
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Oct 2005 00:37 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Laptops DONT HAVE desktop CPU's in them.. DONT. The only thing you could do is buy a mobile motherboard for your desktop PC and put the CPU from the laptop into that, but then your laptop would have no CPU. |
i d say the caps are trying to make out out that previous statement is crap and the person who said it is stupid. ive posted links of laptops using 478 skt chips because its cheaper , even alienware are using the lga 775 or whatever it is to this day ,the fact remains that laptop manufacturers have and still use desktop cpu's because there cheaper then mobiles , a year or so ago there was lots of mobo manufacturers using desktop chips for the budget market , even amd 64 i remember evesham in the uk bringing the first a64 laptop out using a desktop.
you stated laptops DONT use desktop cpus which is and isnt true , some do some dont , one of the links i posted stated that the most laptops sold in a certain year contained desktop cpu's. if you really did work for intel then you would know that some laptops were using desktop cpu's and out selling mobile's a year or so ago.
if some generic manufacturer like gateway can put a desktop processor in a laptop then im sure as hell all the bigger names can to
| Quote: | | This is the point though, the only people who make them have to create custom motherboards and chipsets |
all the ones ive ever seen have used the chipsets that are avaidable be it intel or sis. and all the generic pc's from places like advent , tiny , dell used to have custom made motherboards aswell over the last few years probably not as much now so waht does it matter if notebook manufacturers do it to so they can use a desktop chip.
| Quote: | | Most of the companies who do this use CPU's such as the C2, not Intel/AMD stock CPU's, mainly because it wouldnt produce a quality product. I would hate to feel the heat comming off a laptop using a P4 prescott core haha Wink! |
i guess you didnt bother reading the link i posted
http://news.com.com/2100-1040-979763.html
| Quote: | | NPDTechworld, which tracks retail PC sales, says notebooks using desktop Pentium 4s were the best-selling Intel-based laptop models during the 2002 holiday season. |
| Quote: | | I totally accept your argument whoKnows and admit I was wrong to some degree, I do this because you have personal experience in the field rather than someone simply showing me links |
simply showing you links? what would you like me to do go get a laptop rip it apart and show you a desktop cpu in a desktop socket?
i didnt need to do anything more , the facts are staring you in the face if you bother to read the links.
but i guess i must be wrong because you worked for intel which means i cant be correct because ive not claimed to work with computers
why dont you just admit you were wrong and that you can get laptops with desktop cpus and sockets that you can just change?
is it that difficult to do?
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Oct 2005 04:16 Post subject: |
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so ok the laptop is a "Sony VAIO PCGK33 Notebook (3.06GHz Pentium 4-M, 512MB, 60GB, DVD/CD-RW, Windows XP, 15" TFT)"
Any ideas if it would be possible to transfer the cpu to my desktop?
ASUS Maximus XII Formula | Core i9 10900k @ 5.2Ghz | 32GB G.Skill DDR4 4200Mhz | EVGA RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Hydro Copper | ASUS ROG PG35VQ
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Oct 2005 13:11 Post subject: |
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