All old players that burn out or have funds to blow but do not want deep meaningful corp stuff grab a friend with a bomber and go piss people off in null sec/wormholes so it seems.
Its like the eve retirements path Low cost possible high return for very little efforts with no drama.
exactly. i've got around 90mil SP on my mains and the most fun i've had was just being an asshat, flying cheap stuff and fucking with people in every way possible. or just taking 10-20 ships into low/null, go roaming until you burn them all down and then get a new carrier load. doesn't really matter whether it's solo or alongside a bunch of competent friends.
the problem with eve IMO is that CCP fails to lead players on a fun path - it's a game after all. yes, FW (fleets/solo warfare as well as plexing/missioning) works out fine for most players, even the new ones, but (solo) missioning, mining and sov warfare, which are after all the mainstream activities, are boring as fuck. sure, some people figure it out for themselves, but most are stuck in a groundhog day...esque job and even pay 15€ a month for it. nice parallels to real life right there, but that's what's driving down player numbers, leading to a failcascade sooner or later.
it's more or less the usual mix of summer (got other things to do), less ppl online so fewer targets to shoot and i also won't lift a finger in industry as long as they don't patch that crius mess and new 3rd party tools become available, maybe even involving the new crest API, to deal with the new dynamic nature of building stuff. not that i'm adverse to changes and adapting to them, but i think it's enough effort already having to move a goddamn 200bil indy operation, don't need to add the sisyphean task of making new spreadsheets or coding stuff while CCP are probably patching numerous things over the next few months
Well I logged in to find a shiny Nightmare stuffed full of T2 goodies - totally forgot I had owned one, and they've been buffed to boot. Unfortunately it seems that mission loot and salvage have dropped in price drastically which coupled with the current PLEX price will make it impossible for a casual player to sustain. :/
Dunno what else to do lol. Exploration maybe? Apparently they made it less annoying.
exploration is nice, but you won't get rich doing it. i'd suggest FW missions (as always), since the pay is still ridiculous and you can do them solo as well as in groups. as long as the warzone tier isn't at rock bottom, 1-2 sessions should easily get you a plex and a bunch of ships once you get the hang of it. tons of guides on the net. and yes, you'll lose a bunch of cheap cruisers, but nowadays, even ghetto lowsec is safer than running a shiny nightmare in highsec
I have two 140million SP-characters and about 20 billion in assets and about 7billion in ISK if I liquidated all that into real cash, I'd probably be able to buy a new laptop.
But there's that lingering feeling in the back of my head saying: "You loved this game, and you played those characters for 6,5 years... you MIGHT want to come back"
I also name all my characters after my real name, so selling them would feel weird
I have two 140million SP-characters and about 20 billion in assets and about 7billion in ISK if I liquidated all that into real cash, I'd probably be able to buy a new laptop.
But there's that lingering feeling in the back of my head saying: "You loved this game, and you played those characters for 6,5 years... you MIGHT want to come back"
I also name all my characters after my real name, so selling them would feel weird
I've thought about it too, might start liquidating some of my specialized alts I have no use for to fund future pc upgrade. Wont get rid of the main though
everyone probably thought about this at one point or another, but i've also been playing for 4 years and eve will be around for a decade if not longer...you simply don't quit, you just pause. how easy is it btw to sell off toons + assets/isk in one go? just ebay all of it?
i would advice against ebay/paypal combination for ilegal digital crap.
sell it to someone you know.
when i sold mine i donated a lot of stuff (to estabilish a ground for large isk transfers -> like i quit, i give my stuff away) other stuff i sold for isk. and isk i sold to corp mates.
the 2 main accounts (+nyxes) in my corp, 3 indi/market alt acounts outside my corp, but in alliance. to people i started playing with. moneygram transfer.
it would have been safe to sell the 3 alt accounts for isk, and sell the isk, but at that time i was really fed up.
anyway, at this time no account is banned.
l.e.
it took 4 months to complete the sale. take it slow, dont rush it. selling 5 accounts and lage sum of isk in 1 week raise a big red flag
I have two 140million SP-characters and about 20 billion in assets and about 7billion in ISK if I liquidated all that into real cash, I'd probably be able to buy a new laptop.
But there's that lingering feeling in the back of my head saying: "You loved this game, and you played those characters for 6,5 years... you MIGHT want to come back"
This for me.
I've 5 accounts ranging from 170 Mill SP down to 60 mill with isk of around 40Bill liquid and god knows how many actual assets.
I'd imagine if I sold all 5, it might make me a decent amount of money.
But I keep coming back.
I now just fly in lowsec with a small gang. Piss enough people off and whatnot. Isk obviously not a problem but it's rare that I fly anything over a t3 but normally just sat in a cruiser.
today i was thinking about playing it again for a month or so after i got a new mail for the new expansion,
but then i remembered that i swore to myself 8 years ago, that i would never ever touch it again.
if i play it again, i will lose my job, my family will leave me, the landlord will call the cops to get me out by force while i psychotically hug my keyboard and my ass has already fused with the chair.
I'm going to try some FW as well as I'm sick of missions and it sounds more fun than random pvp.
Any point going in solo in an assault frig or better to join a FW corp?
Also how high is the risk to get podded in FW? Would it make sense to set up a jump clone for it?
Just go solo in a tanked frigate into your allies low tier areas and capture points back from the enemy. This seems to turn in the most LP depending of course on what your races tier is at I think. even the lowest can get u 66mill like a mission in an hour buy just sitting there orbiting and not even firing a shot.
U can go up to 166mill an hour then to 360 mill an hour on the next tiers up etc if this still stands, bush will be able to tell you he lives for fw easy money
Right now though I am still exploring I just enjoy doing that, and if I land a nice bp it will be feet up for a while
today i was thinking about playing it again for a month or so after i got a new mail for the new expansion,
but then i remembered that i swore to myself 8 years ago, that i would never ever touch it again.
if i play it again, i will lose my job, my family will leave me, the landlord will call the cops to get me out by force while i psychotically hug my keyboard and my ass has already fused with the chair.
I hear you...
edit: oh nice nfohump works fine in the eve browser now
I'm going to try some FW as well as I'm sick of missions and it sounds more fun than random pvp.
Any point going in solo in an assault frig or better to join a FW corp?
Also how high is the risk to get podded in FW? Would it make sense to set up a jump clone for it?
being in fw doesn't change anything really about lowsec...take whatever ship class and bring as many buddies as you're comfortable with. solo roaming in a frig is as viable as gatecamping in bigger ships, whatever you like, do it. same goes for podding, as there is no sec status penalty for it and concerning random pirates (as myself): tears + blingy pod KM > sec status loss
if you're completely new to it, i would highly recommend a decent FW corp since they will show you the ropes and most people aren't that comfortable going into ghetto lowsec alone anyway.
as for the money and general pewpew: you've got
a) plexing, which i would call static moneymaking and warfare: pick a few systems you're comfortable with to either hunt in or plex, where you've got safes set up, good logistics set up, friends and replacement ships nearby etc. any further questions about this --> moose, i never did this except during random roams jump into plexes to kill whatever is there. prepare for lots of blueballing via stabs and nanofaggotry
b) missions, if you're more of a nomadic jew and/or murderer like me: you preferably base out of a system at the border of your own faction's FW zone with good logistics connections and either roam/gatecamp defensively, or you pick up to 30 lvl3/4 missions and plot a path on the map that usually runs like a themepark ride through the opposing faction's FW zone.
in the case of amarr vs minmatar for example, i based out of mehatoor and went via amamake and taff up into the north to evati (check the map so you know what i mean) - that's pretty much 3 hotspots in a single roam. modify the route according to your ship, gang and whether you're more in the mood for money or pewpew. lvl3 missions can be done in any decently skilled and fitted pvp cruiser (preferably long range weapons) since you just need to usually shoot 1-3 targets and gtfo, lvl4 ones need at least 2 pilots. isk/hour depends of course on FW tier, pvp distractions and your skills (brain, not SP), but with tier4 on undisturbed weekday mornings flying a glasscannon, you can easily average 1bil/hour if you know what you're doing. also scales well with multiboxing. oh and your mission shows up as a warpable beacon for everyone, so a) be prepared to mash dscan and get fucked if you sleep for more than 5 seconds, b) dualbox 2 RLML fitted caracals, random astero or inty warps in, hilarity ensues.
Thinking about doing the same I was playing solo a few years back, but it got boring after a while.
Sadly it seems that the recall program is deactivated atm
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The two-month pilot phase of the Recall Program is now over and it’s time to start looking into how it fared. Based on the great feedback we’ve received thus far we’d like to bring it back again later in the year, possibly even making it a permanent fixture in the EVE Universe – but for right now it is on hold while we evaluate. Look forward to more information on the Recall Program in the coming weeks.
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Low cost possible high return for very little efforts with no drama.
