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vurt




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 10:56    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:

Stick in a flash drive formatted as FAT32 or ExFAT and copy them to that. Video files can be transferred the same way.


haha ok, what a cumbersome method though. They need a function to upload screens to dropbox, instagram etc.. or just a function so that you can access your screenshot library online when your logged into PSN.

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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 10:58    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
I prefer them any day of the week compared to wearing fanboy googles.

The "let's settle for mediocrity" section of the forum never fails Laughing

yes because the last of us is mediocre. you are such a petty troll, but blame is on me because i keep feeding you Sad

and no, i'm not calling you names you really are a troll. just to recap: few pages ago you claimed that game has drops to 30fps, which is blatant lie. and also you claimed that game has no AA or something like that, which is another blatant lie.


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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 11:06    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
vurt wrote:
I prefer them any day of the week compared to wearing fanboy googles.

The "let's settle for mediocrity" section of the forum never fails Laughing

yes because the last of us is mediocre. you are such a petty troll, but blame is on me because i keep feeding you Sad


Not sure how many times you've trolled / lied but the more recent ones;

1) you claim i said it looks worse than without AA. A complete lie, never said that. 2) you're well aware i'm discussing AA which indeed is mediocre (at best). Same childish trolling, lying. I'm a troll? haha. that's too funny.

If you have to come up with arguments yourself to argue with yourself, then maybe it's time to give it a rest, no?
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 11:17    Post subject:
yes, yes i was well aware you just spent 2 or 3 pages moaning about antialiasing, ffs. that's why i called you anal retentive. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 11:59    Post subject:
It does have AA, although I'm not sure what method. From the shimmering on some of the textures (especially when you get outside after the prologue; that white wall shimmers quite a bit) I'd say it's some form of PPAA, but then all 3 common PPAA forms deal with transparency better than we get to see here, which looks like MSAA is used.

And like I said a year ago, this is what ND had in mind. The higher framerate makes it feel so much better (anyone who says it doesn't has either got shit in his eyes or is a lying piece of shit <3). The resolution is a quick way of making it look even better and they've toned down the blur overall too.

Now show me what you can do with a game developed for the console Naughty Dog <3


Will upload a video once it's finished transferring (which is painfully slow ;().
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 13:08    Post subject:
funny experiment. play game at 60fps for two hours, then try 30fps cap and you'll be like EWWWW wtf is this shit
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 14:33    Post subject:
yup, tried 30 fps just for shits and giggles after a couple of hours of 60fps.... my god.... never again.

Can't believe I played the ps3 version with 30 and sub 30 fps drops now. *shudder*

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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 14:53    Post subject:
Hehe, we've been saying that for years but all we get "lolol PC Master Race where's GTA5? hahalolol can't see more than 30fps anyway, elitist pricks top lel" -- seriously, once you've played at 60fps it's a hell of an adjustment to go back down to 30, everything literally feels like slow judder-filled motion.
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 16:15    Post subject:
I know Sabin that you are just giving an example, but I don't think anyone here has said (neither me nor KC Laughing) that 60 fps was for elitist pricks and that we (I ?) couldn't see the difference.

After playing 60 fps games for ages, it never stopped me from enjoying 30 fps ones too.

Sure, if I can play the 60 fps version why the hell would I play it 30 fps ?

That's exactly what I said...

Elitist PC pricks are the ones that think that any PC can run any console game 60 fps constantly and that "consoles are the cause of bad performances in some games (Ubisoft ?)".

Will GTA 5 run at 60 fps ? I doubt it, not on ps4 at least and on PC it will depend of your PC...

Ps : elitist pricks are the ones that think that in a few years a shitty PC will be able to emulate TLOU ps3 and "make it look better than the ps4 version".
And I'll tell to these elitist pricks : you guys are idiots, an emulator won't suddenly pull out better assets and textures of a game.
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 19:47    Post subject:
THE LAST OF US REMASTERED PS4-WaYsTeD
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 20:06    Post subject:
JackQ wrote:
as been mention before.I'm pretty much sure After ps3 version will be finally emulated(in years). we will see less differnces after running it at high res 2-8msaa,aa etc... maby it willl even looks bit better in some aspects. it will need monster PC though.


Dream on it's not gonna happen...

How would the game be better looking when it's being emulated Confused That's just stupid!
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 20:12    Post subject:
@cyclonefr
That's quite alright, for every one of those elitist pricks, there's 2 elitist console pricks (one from each camp, because) who throw any combination of:
- lol you cant see more than <16/24/29/30> fps anyway
- 1080p is useless, cnt see from couch <followed by a post somewhere else that says "omg 4k want on ps4">
- ps360 requires $2000 pc

@TheGaper
I take it you have never used PCSX or PJ64? Smile

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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 20:13    Post subject:
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How would the game be better looking when it's being emulated Confused That's just stupid!


Um.. what? Have you just never used an emulator or something? While I don't agree with Jack's fanciful dreams of playing The Last of Us at 4k by Christmas, going the absurd opposite end of the spectrum with "how would the game be better looking" is equally as stupid. Cyclone is 100% right that you can't do anything for textures (outside of running texture hacks, such as Xenoblade Chronicles) but running with massive amounts of AA, or increasing the internal resolution (not the "I'm displaying on the monitor") can have *dramatic* improvements on the visuals.

Here's just one quick example, using the phenomenal PS2 RPG from Level-5; Rogue Galaxy. Top screen is "native resolution", bottom screen is "3x internal resolution"




Or another two examples, this time from the PSP title "Final Fantasy Type-0"




Werelds wrote:
I take it you have never used PCSX or PJ64? Smile




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 20:18    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
That's quite alright, for every one of those elitist pricks, there's 2 elitist console pricks (one from each camp, because) who throw any combination of:
- lol you cant see more than <16/24/29/30> fps anyway
- 1080p is useless, cnt see from couch <followed by a post somewhere else that says "omg 4k want on ps4">
- ps360 requires $2000 pc

Fuck, I forgot to mention the asshats that'll jump on you if say that a developer was visibly held back by a platform that should've died several years earlier and that you wish they had been given a newer/better platform already. Not that I've had them jump on me, not at all.

sabin1981 wrote:
Werelds wrote:
I take it you have never used PCSX or PJ64? Smile



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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 20:28    Post subject:
oh man , wtf..still nothing Sad I need to call them tomorrow..
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 20:36    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:



@TheGaper
I take it you have never used PCSX or PJ64? Smile


I think I did try pcsx back in the day when I tried to emulate The Getaway PS2 on a high end PC that, granted, did offer a bump in res and fps. But since the assests remained the same, I wasnt impressed.

But advances were obviously made since then especially when looking at Sabin's impressive pics
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 20:41    Post subject:
Oftentimes the game contains quite decent assets, but they're so heavily butchered by conforming to the lower resolution of the target that it just looks poor. Apply some generous int-res increases and you get... well.... those above Very Happy Like Jaster's clothing, which look absolutely horrendous at the native PS2 res but glorious at 1080. No texture improvements needed, just output higher.

Then you have Xenogears on Dolphin, already looking marvellous at 3x int-res, but with the homebrew community working on replacing textures externally it ends up looking like a PS360 game. So yeah, while TLoU Remaster isn't the epitome of what the PS4 can do, it still looks fantastic just from running in a vastly higher resolution - which all 3D emulators can do too Smile
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Photomode fiddling Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 21:15    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Oftentimes the game contains quite decent assets, but they're so heavily butchered by conforming to the lower resolution of the target that it just looks poor. Apply some generous int-res increases and you get... well.... those above Very Happy Like Jaster's clothing, which look absolutely horrendous at the native PS2 res but glorious at 1080. No texture improvements needed, just output higher.

Then you have Xenogears on Dolphin, already looking marvellous at 3x int-res, but with the homebrew community working on replacing textures externally it ends up looking like a PS360 game. So yeah, while TLoU Remaster isn't the epitome of what the PS4 can do, it still looks fantastic just from running in a vastly higher resolution - which all 3D emulators can do too Smile


Very Happy sounds like I need to fire up my machine... Yeah TLoU looks good compared to the PS3 version, althoug I've only seen videos and screens.
Would you say it's worth the price when I already bought and played the DLC?
Also, I could have sworn that Sony previously said they would offer a discount to PS3 owners Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 21:18    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:


Photomode fiddling Wink


Ok, this almost answered my question Drooling
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 23:04    Post subject:
Unfortunately the video recorded by the PS4 is 720p Sad

I've saved 2 videos and I'll upload them tomorrow, but quality is substantially less than screenshots.
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2014 23:41    Post subject:
God damn.... I had forgotten just how hard this game is.

I fucking suck at precision aiming with a controller, headshots are nearly impossible for me to execute.

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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jul 2014 00:43    Post subject:
That's why I avoid all gunfights and stealth kill what I can Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jul 2014 05:29    Post subject:
Game has shipped but not yet delivered! Hopefully tomorrow! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jul 2014 07:35    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
That's why I avoid all gunfights and stealth kill what I can Laughing


Yeah usually I try to go stealth, and I usually fail eventually.
So stealth in my case is just preparation for combat, where I take out as many as possible before shit hits the fan. It's pretty exciting!

I originally played like 1/3 of the game on normal before I quit on PS3, so this time I decided it was time to play the game without xray vision and shit, so I went all out for grounded difficulty.

It's pretty hard.

Razz

But I already made like 80 screenshots on the way. I keep finding myself pausing in photo mode and just checking out how amazing everything looks.
Yeah sure it's still just a PS3 game and doesn't hold up to infamous in the technical department but the art direction and style is just awesome.

Some screenies here on mostly default settings, haven't played much with DoF and filters yet.
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Don't worry, they're pretty spoiler free and fairly early in the game.

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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jul 2014 09:08    Post subject:
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Yeah sure it's still just a PS3 game and doesn't hold up to infamous in the technical department but the art direction and style is just awesome.

I beg to differ Very Happy

Lighting definitely is up to par just fine, because Infamous fails to do much with lighting. Global illumination casts shadows, sparkly effects look great - but there's really not that much going on otherwise. I found the night time the worst part in Infamous, the fact that none of the directional lights cast shadow is quite distracting to me, same as in Watch_Dogs. It is just so wrong to walk in front of a car's headlights and....nothing, like you're a bloody ghost Razz

But where TLoU truly shines is in animations (because it's motion captured) and faces. Infamous has decent facial animations, but the eyes are horribly disconnected and make it look very awkward at times.

And then yeah, there's the obvious art direction and atmosphere Very Happy

So no, I don't think TLoU falls behind at all. There are things that sure would've been better if ND had just gone straight for PS4. There are some mediocre textures here and there, some of the poly counts would've been higher, they probably would've used a different AA method (I'm still not sure what it is, because it exhibits artifacts from both PPAA methods and MSAA). All of these are things that require more optimisation.

Overall, definitely holds up though. The higher resolution, the frame rate, the removal of the vaseline and getting proper AA instead are all it needed. 10/10, will play through it again Very Happy

Now show me what you can do when you develop straight for this console Naughty Dog, my creditcard is ready Me Gusta


Edit: Two videos from the prologue (so ye be warned if you haven't played yet):
https://mega.co.nz/#!vt4hzBqC!LnjdxRsFULXv2RBe6zdaJArsB44D1xC_l4--FImSJkw
https://mega.co.nz/#!LxhFybwD!dMmfy3iBJA5kUOofgDCXq89KQ7IssILu8iZsESLmuw4

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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jul 2014 15:00    Post subject:
just played 1-2 hours and switched back to 30fps then, lol Very Happy dont try that at home kids Wink
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jul 2014 15:45    Post subject:
Probably pick this up at christmas, the graphics look lush.
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jul 2014 16:37    Post subject:
Acquired! Can't play until after work though dammit!

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