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Acer




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 16:20    Post subject: gaming addiction
So I've been playing games seriously for a few years now. Playing the same game for some time and then switching to another. Played SWTOR a while back, then PoE and now I've been playing alot of Marvel Heroes.

Recently though I've noticed how short tempered I've become, cant hardly watch movies anymore and have seen very little of the World Cup eventhough I like watching football. The more I thought about it the more I realised something wasnt right, and so I've decided to not play anything for a month while I prepare to retake my icnd2 exam so it wont expire. I've been meaning to do this all year but havent gotten around to it because I've always started playing again after studying a few days.

So far I havent played anything since sunday, and have actually been studying icnd2 quite frequently but man am I bored most of the time.
I mean whats there to do, going out is kinda meh, I love being with my gf but even that has its limitations and I cant be with her all the time. I go to the gym, run etc but I dont consider that too much fun, more of a necessity. Also whenever I've been with my gf I've felt this urge to have her leave so I can jump to the computer and just play til my eyes bleed.

Anyone else experiencing this, and what do you do with your free time if you cant play games? Adult life is so meh, no wonder so many ppl my age are having kids...
Also I have such an urge to reinstall Marvel Heroes tonight and play all night as my gf is home with a fever. What to do...
(I've fucked her in the butt so many times, its almost lost all meaning...)


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 16:26    Post subject:
I would talk to a good friend, family or a doctor about the above.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 16:34    Post subject:
Some people use gaming as an escape, but that doesn't sound like you. Maybe you are slightly depressed? By slightly I mean that you are pretty much indifferent to the people around you and gaming gives you somewhat pleasure.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 16:35    Post subject:
I got the same. It's called apathy. But my life looks like this:



Until I DIE...

EDIT: And as deelix said it looks like a slight depression.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 16:45    Post subject:
There's no need to waste time on shrinks. The only reason is the absence of thrills in your life, just as illustrated on the pic above.

The only solution is to find a cool job or hobby that involves moving around and doing something creative. Whenever I feel that apathy I just go out in the field with our camera crews someplace interesting, stay a day or two and go home completely satisfied.

So now I actually have an opposite problem - I don't want to play most of the games except military shooters or sandboxes like Farcry and GTA. Got a pile of them near the TV but I'd rather read a book or do something with my kid.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 17:11    Post subject:
Waargh wrote:
There's no need to waste time on shrinks.



Even though I personally think the same, that is a bold remark to make to someone whose condition we dont really know except for a few written posts on a forum.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 17:16    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
Waargh wrote:
There's no need to waste time on shrinks.



Even though I personally think the same, that is a bold remark to make to someone whose condition we dont really know except for a few written posts on a forum.


The only reason to go to a doc is that kind of depression which is considered a medical condition. Obviously he doesn't have it because he runs, goes to the gym and still sees his GF. With medical depression he'd be lying face to the wall all day.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 17:20    Post subject:
Ive been taking anti-dep medication for a few years now, have a slight depression and have struggled all my adult life trying to find balance in an otherwise meaningless life. But life is too short not to do what you love, and for me gaming is a part of what I truly enjoy so why should I completely deprive myself of it.

I see it as either I can do everything I want in life, work, be with my gf, go to the gym etc or I can do all that but without putting much thought into it and play games. With the risk of losing my gf, job etc


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 17:24    Post subject:
Acer wrote:
Ive been taking anti-dep medication for a few years now, have a slight depression and have struggled all my adult life trying to find balance in an otherwise meaningless life. But life is too short not to do what you love, and for me gaming is a part of what I truly enjoy so why should I completely deprive myself of it.

I see it as either I can do everything I want in life, work, be with my gf, go to the gym etc or I can do all that but without putting much thought into it and play games. With the risk of losing my gf, job etc


That's only until you realize that gaming is not something worthwhile. It's a pure waste of time and escapism. The moment you understand that you'll see how stupid it is to play till eyes bleed. Especially such crap as MMOs.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 17:33    Post subject:
I'm the other way, man. I can hardly play a game for more than 10 minutes for the past few years
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 17:38    Post subject:
Stick to the 1 month off no matter what. Then you will have some clarity to see if you are addicted (and if it makes your life worse) or not. It's good to take a break.

Also try to find something else that you really like. Race go-karts, go fishing, surfing, trekking, I don't know, something physical and outdoors is ideal...
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 17:42    Post subject:
Invasor wrote:
Stick to the 1 month off no matter what. Then you will have some clarity to see if you are addicted (and if it makes your life worse) or not. It's good to take a break.

Also try to find something else that you really like. Race go-karts, go fishing, surfing, trekking, I don't know, something physical and outdoors is ideal...


Yup, that's what I mean. Sticking to the 1 month without thrills is useless. Basically what you do when you play is press the fast-forward button to make spare time run faster, because you're afraid of the emptiness you'll face if you don't do it. Right now you try to fill it with studies but instead you should do stuff Invasor mentioned if it's available around.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 18:24    Post subject:
it's all about balance.

my recommendation is stop playing addictive online games, MMOs, MOBAs, that sort of stuff. stick to single player or coop games with your friends, where you can quit game at any moment and pick up later. suddenly you'll have a ton of free time for other activities.

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That's only until you realize that gaming is not something worthwhile. It's a pure waste of time and escapism. The moment you understand that you'll see how stupid it is to play till eyes bleed. Especially such crap as MMOs.

almost everything that is fun is also a waste of time, so let's stop doing it, eh? but i agree about MMOs Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 18:49    Post subject:
Why the fuck would you though ?
I don't get it. Experiencing pleasure is all we can do in this life.
So if you like gaming so much, why would you stop ?
Why would you try to replace it with something that doesn't give you as much fun (watching tv, going out).

Who said addiction is bad ? Why can't you be addicted to what you love ? Of course if you manage to make time for other chores and duties and girlfriends.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 18:55    Post subject:
The worst thing one can do is justify the addiction and approve of it. I was afraid this would happen and of course it happened. Rolling Eyes

bloodian wrote:
Experiencing pleasure is all we can do in this life.




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 19:03    Post subject:
Waargh wrote:
The worst thing one can do is justify the addiction and approve of it. I was afraid this would happen and of course it happened. Rolling Eyes

bloodian wrote:
Experiencing pleasure is all we can do in this life.




Can you please explain why addiction that doesn't get into way of duties is bad ?

edit:

I've put it wrong. I wanted to say that "Experiencing pleasure is one of the most important things we can do in this life."
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 19:06    Post subject:
bloodian wrote:
I've put it wrong. I wanted to say that "Experiencing pleasure is one of the most important things we can do in this life."


I'm afraid it makes it sound even worse Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 19:11    Post subject:
Have you played Divinity OS yet?

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bloodian




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 19:13    Post subject:
Waargh wrote:
bloodian wrote:
I've put it wrong. I wanted to say that "Experiencing pleasure is one of the most important things we can do in this life."


I'm afraid it makes it sound even worse Laughing


Yeah, of course that's your opinion and understand You value other things in life.
But that doesn't make my opinion "bad", or does it ?
I mean, there has to be some truth in there, because most of the time you're spending daily is about pleasure: nfohumping, playing, eating good food, sex, masturbating, watching tv.

I'd still like to hear an answer to the question: what is so bad about "healthy" addiction ?
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 19:14    Post subject:
Im the same, but not playing games as much as I did in my late 20's early 30's. But still do it more than 99% of people do.
Im still on the PC 10+ hours a day, but I enjoy it. Give me a good game, books, or one of the few TV shows I like and Im set for the week.

I dont like going out, watching movies(most bore me to death), I enjoy some TV..but usually sciency shows, or comedy central.

When friends ask me to go out I stop and think "I can have more fun here" and usually don't go..unless its just to get out of 'cabin fever'. And they tell me "your so hard to please!!"

I've always seen it not as a problem on my part, but a problem on other peoples part Razz I rationalize it as such "I'm not the one thats hard to please, YOU are the one having to go other and new places not to be bored..I'm easy to please, the same place (home) and a game I like, I can enjoy this place for years " Smile


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Acer




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 19:41    Post subject:
yeah I know what you mean bloodian, and I wrote that earlier too about life being too short not to enjoy life. But its a slippery slope, when I start playing its like I enter my own world and every minute away from that world kinda hurts and so I cant wait to crawl into my safe place, away from all forms of duty and responsability and just play.

Im very close to reinstalling Marvel Heroes now, I've never liked mobas nor real mmos though MH is the first arpg mmo which is like pure crack to me...


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 19:57    Post subject:
Ok, this patient's hopeless. Laughing Next!


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 20:32    Post subject:
I used to have a safeplace like that...

This is my safeplace now:
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 20:48    Post subject:
This was me about 6 years ago, so I can relate here.

What helped me was getting out there and finding new hobbies, interesting friends, and pursuing long term goals.

I still game, almost everyday, and I love it, but I also have a new appreciation for life Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 21:12    Post subject:
bloodian wrote:
Waargh wrote:
The worst thing one can do is justify the addiction and approve of it. I was afraid this would happen and of course it happened. Rolling Eyes

bloodian wrote:
Experiencing pleasure is all we can do in this life.




Can you please explain why addiction that doesn't get into way of duties is bad ?

edit:

I've put it wrong. I wanted to say that "Experiencing pleasure is one of the most important things we can do in this life."


You can't experience pleasure if you don't experience pain. People who are depressed are apathetic, don't feel shit.

You can game for pleasure, sure, but gaming so you don't have to deal with anything else and so you have something to do is painful. Gaming becomes a job/a chore more than pleasure.

I mean come-on, playing games the whole day, by the end you're a nervous wreck, not relaxed.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 22:09    Post subject:
xxax wrote:
I mean come-on, playing games the whole day, by the end you're a nervous wreck, not relaxed.

You're playing the wrong games then Razz
Ive went 10 hours playing a game and relaxed, tired, and content afterwards.
But then again my 10+ hour games are usually sim games, builder games, strategy..etc. nothing twitch based.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2014 22:32    Post subject:
For me:

Life = Pursuit of happiness

If gaming fulfills you, keep at it and don't give a flying fuck about what others say.

If you feel something is missing in your life though, than gaming doesn't make you truly happy and you should pursuit the actual fulfillment.


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2014 22:27    Post subject:
It comes down to how much you need to suffer from an addiction before you are ready to change something. I speak from experience. Cool

Ive asked myself, whats the difference between gaming and real life stuff? I came to the conclusion that gaming stimulates on an intellectual basis, while real life stimulates in way more ways. Besides that, everything in life needs balance to feel good.

These days i can enjoy real life as much as gaming, though too much real life doesnt hurt while too much gaming gets boring quick (had the whole last weekend nothing else to do... on sunday i was about to throw my pc out of the window Rolling Eyes ).

m3th0d2008 wrote:
For me:

Life = Pursuit of happiness

If gaming fulfills you, keep at it and don't give a flying fuck about what others say.

If you feel something is missing in your life though, than gaming doesn't make you truly happy and you should pursuit the actual fulfillment.


Thats the way humans experience life. Running away from negative feelings, trying to pursue positive ones. Its a neverending story, cause ultimately nothing can make you happy forever - yet we deeply know inside that there must be something. But this neverending source of joy reveals itself only, if we let go of everything else... even if for a few minutes, like in meditation.
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jul 2014 03:12    Post subject:
have a baby, trust me you won't have time to play anything Wink

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