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 Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2014 20:56 Post subject: motherfuckers (copyright trolling) |
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my motherfucking roomate and motherfucking pieces of shit producers of a piece of shit polish movie with score of 4/10 with piece of shit motherfucking sad actors.
I rent an apartment and the deal with ISP is on me, while my roomates use it.
yeah, so... Today I've got a letter from a law firm that if i don't pay them 550 zł (~150-200$) they're going to sue me for downloading a piece of shit movie. The thing is that I don't watch piece of shit polish movies because they're so motherfucking bad but my roomate is a motherfucking retard and he does.
At first I thought it's a scam and that they can blow me. Well, i've read into it and it's not a scam and the case is already in public prosecutors office. It's most likely they'll drop the case (or so i've read), but also they might not and police might knock at my doors to confiscate all my computers for very long. That's the worst part actually, because i'm like a mass-murderer that is about to get caught for the murder he didn't commit (i really need to clean the crime scene: c:\ d:\).
So that's something I CAN'T avoid. What i CAN avoid by paying them is that they won't make an ADDITIONAL law-suit (private or something) against me.
The good part is that my roomate is a fucking complete retard and he read the letter and he thought the IP there (router's "external" ip) is his IP and he shit his pants so he confessed to me. So he's ready to pay, so that's something. He wanted to split the 550 zł because we (me and my other IT roomate) download from p2p too. I told him some bullshit that we encrypt our torrents and we use TOR and we're not as retarded as he is (we are, and most of you probably are too).
So... I don't give a shit about going to court because i'd probably win that one. I'm REALLY innocent and they've got shit on me. I'm shitting my pants about the thought of police raiding my house though. I really need to clean everything and buy a usenet account.
guys.
1. don't do p2p.
2. don't download movies with <6 imdb rate.
3. don't have retard roomates (it's not his fault because even all my family wears the black flag but he got caught and i don't like him)
tl;dr:
i've got a letter that says I have to pay money if i dont want to get sued for a movie my rooomate leeched.
Last edited by bloodian on Tue, 24th Jun 2014 18:41; edited 2 times in total
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2014 21:19 Post subject: |
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4. Don't be polish
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Invasor
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2014 21:23 Post subject: |
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Is sub-renting legal in Poland? Do you have a contract with your roommate? Because that could be another problem if (and this is a big if) you go to court for the copyright claim. If it is legal and you do have a contract, it would be their obligation (the movie industry fuckers) to prove it was you doing the download, which they can't obviously, as you would just say it was someone else. But if you can't prove you legally have a roommate, I think they could hold you responsible for the download anyway...
So you either pay them (maybe safer, especially because your roommate is willing to pay), or wait and see (they probably won't do anything, I don't know how things are in Poland regarding this matter, but a lawsuit isn't cheap and one shitty movie download is practically nothing).
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Invasor
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2014 21:25 Post subject: |
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Also, you need to make sure that by paying them you're not admitting to be guilty, and that they absolutely won't sue you.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2014 21:47 Post subject: |
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1.Sub-renting is most probably legal but I didn't do it beacuse I trust my roomates. Well, now it looks like I could use that contract.
2.I could though have my WIFI unprotected AND I actually did share my wifi with neighbours for a long time.
3. Well, the roomate's parents are going to pay a visit to a lawyer so he's probably going to tell them not to pay because:
4. As you said, they don't give you ANY guarantee that they won't sue you. They just tell that if you don't sign an agreement form (included) in which you confess to the "crime" they'll sue you and they give you an account number.
So, as probably the lawyer of my roomates parent's going to tell them not to pay all I have to do now is clean my computers and wait..
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ClaudeFTW
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2014 23:10 Post subject: Re: motherfuckers |
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| bloodian wrote: |
guys.
1. don't do p2p.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2014 23:21 Post subject: |
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deelix
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2014 23:30 Post subject: |
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Sounds like a scam to me, why the hell would they go so far for just one movie?
I sort of get why you are angry at your roommate, but this whole situation is pretty fucking strange
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2014 23:36 Post subject: |
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they are copyright trolls (send angry letters demanding money to thousands, hope a few actually pay up so you don't need to pursue them individually in court)... similar shit happens in the US and Canada, but seems we have turned a corner here...
http://business.financialpost.com/2014/02/22/how-the-teksavvy-court-decision-will-help-shut-out-copyright-trolls-in-canada/
when something is DMCA'ed on usenet I usually resort to torrent so ofc this makes me a bit relieved ...
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2014 23:41 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | Sounds like a scam to me, why the hell would they go so far for just one movie?
I sort of get why you are angry at your roommate, but this whole situation is pretty fucking strange |
of course it's a scam but on supported grounds.
Some firm in germany listened on this torrent collecting IPs and they handed them to the prosecutors office and that's how they could contact my ISP for my personal data.
A lot of articles support the same info: there's really such case in the prosecutors office, they don't know who's it against and what does it contain.
i'm pretty relaxed by now. I'm only angry with my roomate because I don't like him. I don't know a young person that doesn't download from piratebay - it's just too easy these days. He was just unlucky and he has a veeery shitty taste in movies.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Jun 2014 23:47 Post subject: |
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Get onto private trackers already, it's not that hard... 
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Jun 2014 00:02 Post subject: |
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lol You don't have to pay anything. Just throw that letter away
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Jun 2014 00:34 Post subject: |
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Oh fucking throw the shit away they aren't going to do shit.
I've gotten 4 letters from my ISP about that shit and the law firm wants money. They set up a site as a scare tactic so if you check it out you get scared to go to court to because of the fees and shit so you end up putting the money in their bank account. They aren't going to spend the time and money to find you, come to your state, take you to court over some money that they probably aren't going to get.
I'm fucking American so if it's bullshit here, it's most def fucking bullshit there.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Jun 2014 18:12 Post subject: |
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It would be awesome if someone was to sue them, make a point, then everyone else begins to sue them and they declare bankruptcy.
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jun 2014 00:03 Post subject: |
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| bloodian wrote: | http://www.filmweb.pl/film/Last+Minute-2013-673532
cancer of polish kinematography. pathetic comedies. |
pff a movie doesn't exist in this reality unless it exists on imdb. |
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jun 2014 08:43 Post subject: |
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Do what I do: create a Truecrypt file for illegal stuff. When you turn off your PC, it will close and become a single file. Name it something random and put it between system files and the idiots won't know what it is. Best thing to do, is put it in the root of a second or third drive and name it "hibernate.sys". Even IF they try to open it, they won't be able to tell it's Truecrypt. Basically, they won't have any evidence against you.
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ClaudeFTW
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jun 2014 10:36 Post subject: Re: motherfuckers |
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| bloodian wrote: | | ClaudeFTW wrote: | | bloodian wrote: |
guys.
1. don't do p2p.
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oh, i'm kind of slow today. You probably mean it's kind of too late now after downloading and uploading terrabytes of booty. |
Yep. Although we don't have these checks in Romania. Pirating is not illegal, just frowned upon.
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jun 2014 11:10 Post subject: |
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| red_avatar wrote: | | Do what I do: create a Truecrypt file for illegal stuff. When you turn off your PC, it will close and become a single file. Name it something random and put it between system files and the idiots won't know what it is. Best thing to do, is put it in the root of a second or third drive and name it "hibernate.sys". Even IF they try to open it, they won't be able to tell it's Truecrypt. Basically, they won't have any evidence against you. |
the way I see it is I can name it WarezXXXFreeGemz.exe and just don't tell them what's the password because i don't have to. I could forget the password.
I intend to clean all my computers, throw all my cds in a couple of days.
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