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 Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2014 03:29 Post subject: Help building a PC |
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Hi guys, been with this forum for a few years, although only recently i registered..
I am trying to build a PC soon, its a budget pc, and i dont wanna spend more than 650€ on it, so dont be too harsh on it please:
intel® Core i5 3570 3.4GHz 6mb Cache
217,00 €
Asus P8H61-M - LGA1155
76,30 €
HDD 1TB Barracuda 3.5" SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 rpm 64mb Cache
61,00 €
Kingston DDR3 2GB 1333MHz HyperX Blu
18,45 € x3
HALFMMAN NOBLE ATX
73,40 €
GTX650 TI-1GD5 - GTX650 TI 1GB PCI-E 3.0
148,00 €
FONTE HALFMMAN 650W SILENT
30,00 €
This is what im going for, im looking for someone that can help me optimize it, if possible to be a little bit cheaper than this, that would be great, sugestions are welcome to replace any of these components for something better in terms of quality/price..
PS: i will run it on a 21' monitor, so i dont really need big horse power to run at insane resolutions, its a small monitor, i just wanna be able to play these recent games at decent fps, i understand that for this kind of budget i wont be running the witcher at 300 fps, nor is it my intention, just in a playable environment , and what is playable to me? anything above 60 fps !
Im buying it from a local store, www.microcenter.pt, so if anyone can take a look at what they have and what i have picked, i would very much apreciate it !
Regards
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2014 09:49 Post subject: |
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Well, it might be that you should go for an AMD APU if you're wanting to significantly cheapen the budget, but I'm not sure, so I'll leave CPU/Mobo to someone else...
Case, I would drop down to a lower model - 70 Euro seems a bit much. Personally, I'd spend about 40-50, and use the money saved to get this memory:
http://microcenter.pt/index.php/kingston-ddr3-8gb-1600mhz-kit-de-2-xmp-cl9-hyperx-blu.html
Your 2gb will slow everything else down. 4gb is the bare minimum, and the leap from 4gb to 8gb is cost-effective.
If you do stick with Intel for your CPU, I'd consider dropping down to a 3470 and swapping out the GTX650 for an AMD 7850. A quick skim of benchmarks says that it's certainly worth it over the 650, and the difference between 3470 and 3570 is only a couple hundred mhz.
Edit: Just noticed you're going for the TI version of the 650, so maybe it's not as much of a difference as I first thought. If you're worried about money, it's probably safer to drop down to the 3470 but stick with the 650 ti. 
Pixieking
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2014 10:20 Post subject: |
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dont you have cheaper store out there? because omg 150€ for 650ti? I can buy GTX750 Ti 2GB OC here for 135€ and Core i5 3570k 3.4GHz about 210€ or Intel Core i5-4670K for 205€
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2014 10:24 Post subject: |
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| trollpower wrote: | | dont you have cheaper store out there? because omg 150€ for 650ti? I can buy GTX750 Ti 2GB OC here for 135€ and Core i5 3570k 3.4GHz about 210€ or Intel Core i5-4670K for 205€ |
This is exactly what im looking for, sugestions on other prices/models, thank you very much, i might not buy everything from the same place !
So for now, ill get another case for like 50 euros, ill get that new memory stick the above poster mentioned, and i will search for that gtx750 TI 2gb...
Anything else i should look into? motherboard perhaps?
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2014 10:26 Post subject: |
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| Pixieking wrote: | Well, it might be that you should go for an AMD APU if you're wanting to significantly cheapen the budget, but I'm not sure, so I'll leave CPU/Mobo to someone else...
Case, I would drop down to a lower model - 70 Euro seems a bit much. Personally, I'd spend about 40-50, and use the money saved to get this memory:
http://microcenter.pt/index.php/kingston-ddr3-8gb-1600mhz-kit-de-2-xmp-cl9-hyperx-blu.html
Your 2gb will slow everything else down. 4gb is the bare minimum, and the leap from 4gb to 8gb is cost-effective.
If you do stick with Intel for your CPU, I'd consider dropping down to a 3470 and swapping out the GTX650 for an AMD 7850. A quick skim of benchmarks says that it's certainly worth it over the 650, and the difference between 3470 and 3570 is only a couple hundred mhz.
Edit: Just noticed you're going for the TI version of the 650, so maybe it's not as much of a difference as I first thought. If you're worried about money, it's probably safer to drop down to the 3470 but stick with the 650 ti. |
If you look closer i put x3 on the 2gb, im buying 6gb, but i can also buy 8, memory is something i might add later on, i need to get the cpu the motherboard and the graphics card right before that though, but thank you for the sugestions !
PS: I rather spend this kind of money on intel and nvidia, im not a fan of amd or ati !
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2014 10:43 Post subject: |
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Get 2x4GB instead, your RAM will not run at dual channel if you are going for 3 sticks. Also i would go for 750Ti, its priced the same (bit less even).
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2014 19:24 Post subject: |
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Yeah, I get that. The thing to remember is driver issues are pretty personal, so what affects you might not affect other people, and the other way around.
As an example, last time I had an Nvidia card, they released a driver which caused issues with the fan profiles. People were complaining that their cards were bing fried because of it, and I was due for an upgrade at the time. So I switched out to 1 AMD 6850, added another in CrossFire, then upgraded to a 7950. No issues whatsoever. But for every person like me, there'll be someone saying that they've had issues with AMD for years, and never again. *shrugs*
If you want to investigate properly, Google, but narrow the search to the last year. That'll give you a good idea of what problems people are having now with AMD, rather than the older driver issues.
Pixieking
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2014 21:21 Post subject: |
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| Pixieking wrote: | Yeah, I get that. The thing to remember is driver issues are pretty personal, so what affects you might not affect other people, and the other way around.
As an example, last time I had an Nvidia card, they released a driver which caused issues with the fan profiles. People were complaining that their cards were bing fried because of it, and I was due for an upgrade at the time. So I switched out to 1 AMD 6850, added another in CrossFire, then upgraded to a 7950. No issues whatsoever. But for every person like me, there'll be someone saying that they've had issues with AMD for years, and never again. *shrugs*
If you want to investigate properly, Google, but narrow the search to the last year. That'll give you a good idea of what problems people are having now with AMD, rather than the older driver issues. |
Interesting insight, im just going by for what i read on these forums over the years, but i might give amd and ati a chance, since it seems to give me a decent boost for the money i wanna spend, whats your opinion on getting a 660ti or 750ti on I7? is it worth it? am i better off with a i5 with a good clock?
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2014 22:16 Post subject: |
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There's problems on both sides of the GPU fence. Anyone telling you otherwise is full of shit. They haven't used either side in 5 years or they're just lucky that they have never installed a driver that fucked whatever they were playing up.
Neither supports old cards (and with support I don't mean "driver works with the card" but "driver actually fucking does something for the card").
Neither supports old games very well.
Both push out dumbass changes that break even current games (Nvidia's new Shader Cache breaks Wolfenstein for example).
I've had horrible shit happen with both of them over the last 20 years and in the last 5 years, neither has been as bad as they have been. People who had AMD between 2006 and 2009 know what I mean, as do people who had Nvidia between in their early days (late 90s) or between 2003 and 2007.
You'll be fine with either
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