Need new router and wifi card for pc
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 16:00    Post subject: Need new router and wifi card for pc
So. I have 100mbps up and down connection. Router is in other room than my pc but I get full signal or sometimes one bar lower... I get 50-55mbps of effective speed. Tested it on cable and was getting 96 or something so my provided speed is legit.

I know that wifi lowers the speed and thats not really my concern. The problem is that this fucking thing keep lowering speed and stalling/freezing.
Let's say everything works fine. In a few hours any website barely opens and everything buffers like crazy. Then I check and its like 10mbps on speedtest.net.
I go into my router settings, reboot the damn thing and its 55 again. For some time.

It happens couple of times a day. I am also often getting "no internet connection" all of sudden even tho connection to router is good. I have to restart it then too so everything works again.

I am extremely frustrated. I have to to this couple of times a day. I've checked all the setting on my router couple of times, resetted it to factory, updated, configured again and again. nothing.
I've also tried couple different drivers for my wifi dongle for pc, and nothing helped. Also tried different usb ports.

So the question is, Is it because of pc usb wifi dongle (which is on 2m usb cable and standing high on my desk for good signal) or is it fault of the router. Maybe both?

Any recommendations for new router or whatever? again - 100mbps up/down and 2 walls inbetween.

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escalibur




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 16:36    Post subject:
I suggest you eg. Asus RT-N66U with Merlin's firmware (you can also install DD-WRT if you so desire). RT-N56U is also great but there is no Merlin's or DD-WRT firmwares for it.


Probably the best site for comparing different routers/network devides for home usage: http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/bar/76-total-simul
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 16:40    Post subject:
do u have some options like timeout or anything on the router menu?
maybe it's just an option in windows like energysave mode for usb or something like that.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 16:45    Post subject:
i use a ASUS PCE-AC68, coupled with a proper router (which does dual band for once), should be more then enough.

Sadly i don't have a dual band router (and i can't change it), so i'm stuck at 2.4ghz band lol.
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 16:47    Post subject:
escalibur wrote:
I suggest you eg. Asus RT-N66U with Merlin's firmware (you can also install DD-WRT if you so desire). RT-N56U is also great but there is no Merlin's or DD-WRT firmwares for it.


Probably the best site for comparing different routers/network devides for home usage: http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/bar/76-total-simul

wtf man that router is 1/4th of my salary
@derpwald - no. nothing like that. But.. I have it set to dynamic IP as it is my contract with provider and my ip never changes. Even when i release and renew
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@Sin317
meh... Dont want anything internal


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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 17:00    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
escalibur wrote:
I suggest you eg. Asus RT-N66U with Merlin's firmware (you can also install DD-WRT if you so desire). RT-N56U is also great but there is no Merlin's or DD-WRT firmwares for it.


Probably the best site for comparing different routers/network devides for home usage: http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/bar/76-total-simul

wtf man that router is 1/4th of my salary
@derpwald - no. nothing like that. But.. I have it set to dynamic IP as it is my contract with provider and my ip never changes. Even when i release and renew
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@Sin317
meh... Dont want anything internal


well, the card is internal, the antenna is external.
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 17:01    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:

wtf man that router is 1/4th of my salary


You get what you pay for Wink I have the N56U, with Padavan's firmware, awesome router Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 17:08    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
escalibur wrote:
I suggest you eg. Asus RT-N66U with Merlin's firmware (you can also install DD-WRT if you so desire). RT-N56U is also great but there is no Merlin's or DD-WRT firmwares for it.


Probably the best site for comparing different routers/network devides for home usage: http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/bar/76-total-simul

wtf man that router is 1/4th of my salary
@derpwald - no. nothing like that. But.. I have it set to dynamic IP as it is my contract with provider and my ip never changes. Even when i release and renew
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@Sin317
meh... Dont want anything internal


well, the card is internal, the antenna is external.

I know. Just don't have free pci slot at all. Sound card is taking it already.
@scaramonga - well it seems weird to pay so much for a router and keep non original firmware on it. if I was to spend so much money on something I wouldnt want to temper with it. besides... Its just oo much for me.
The router I have was nearly 1/20th of my salary... but it's shit so figures


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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 17:23    Post subject:
Just don't go with D-Link and you're already on the right path.


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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 17:26    Post subject:
Why not just get 100ft ethernet cable? I used to had really shitty connection when my router was at the end of the house and my room is in front, which is separated by 4 rooms. Using wifi adapter was pain the ass.

I eventually bought couple 100ft ethernet cables(for pc, xbox360 and media player) and drilled some holes in the walls and just run them like that. No loss of speeds at all.


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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 17:37    Post subject:
I have a Linksys E4200 and a TP-Link WDN4800. It gives me a stable 90Mbps over the 5Ghz band.
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 17:40    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
Just don't go with D-Link and you're already on the right path.

was there. Fuck dlink Laughing


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frogster




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 19:21    Post subject:
can you see the hardware stats ?
%cpu, %memory, conections ?

i presume something is at 100% after a while.
for example mine :
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 19:28    Post subject:
I dont think You wanted to post here ?

but yes I can see all of that and its all ok. nothing unusual there


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frogster




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 19:33    Post subject:
yeh, here i wanted to post. i had similar issues with an older router when i had a nas for seed box, and i had to reset the roter every week because it reach the connection limit or something. i dont remember to well, was like 4 years ago. took me 1 month to find out why.
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frogster




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 19:41    Post subject:
and a recommendation (low budget):
we have one of those at work (30+ clients, smarphones + laptops + usb dongles), and we dont have any problem. last time it was reseted was 1 month ago when i cleared the mac table.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704144


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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th May 2014 19:45    Post subject:
that one seems ok. Will think about it. price is ok too.


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Hfric




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st May 2014 01:29    Post subject:
KillerCrocker so if i will follow your Ip and write adimn:adimn ... i can reprogram your pc


ok


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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st May 2014 02:52    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
KillerCrocker so if i will follow your Ip and write adimn:adimn ... i can reprogram your pc


ok


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st May 2014 03:10    Post subject:
TP Link is fucking garbage and their support is worse than trying to deal with the Indian department tech support for your ISP.

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-3-In-1-Wireless-Router-RT-N12/dp/B00DWFPDNO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1401498539&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+rtn

I've got two of these and it's rock solid. One is operating as a wireless router, the other is running as an access point, because using those stupid USB bullshit devices for wireless is fucking stupid.

Pro of an access point: faster, no drivers (meaning use it on whatever the hell OS you want without spending hours looking for the right driver...and not worry about it causing issues), doesn't need windows to manage it, better reception, doesn't fucking overheat.

Cons: none because setup literally takes 2 minutes and you don't need to ever mess with it again.


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frogster




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st May 2014 08:38    Post subject:
personally i would not buy a router without 5ghz band.

then compare tplink hardspec with asus.

http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wdr3600

https://wikidevi.com/wiki/ASUS_RT-N12_rev_D1

sorry, but that asus model is garbage from my pov. low proc speed, low memory, no 5ghz, no gb ports, no usb ports.
and you you want to replace firmware with ddwrt/opewrt, usually low budget tplinks work better vs other low budget routers.
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PostPosted: Sat, 31st May 2014 12:52    Post subject:
spykez is right, TPlink is sub standard stuff, its the sort of low end shit you would find in the new maplin stores - for routers and wifi cards you are so much better off spending and going with a known good brand .
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Sat, 31st May 2014 17:17    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
TP Link is fucking garbage and their support is worse than trying to deal with the Indian department tech support for your ISP.

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-3-In-1-Wireless-Router-RT-N12/dp/B00DWFPDNO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1401498539&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+rtn

I've got two of these and it's rock solid. One is operating as a wireless router, the other is running as an access point, because using those stupid USB bullshit devices for wireless is fucking stupid.

Pro of an access point: faster, no drivers (meaning use it on whatever the hell OS you want without spending hours looking for the right driver...and not worry about it causing issues), doesn't need windows to manage it, better reception, doesn't fucking overheat.

Cons: none because setup literally takes 2 minutes and you don't need to ever mess with it again.

thats really cheap ! and have two antenas, might get this one !
How about pc dongle ? stay with what I have ?


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Jun 2014 04:21    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:

How about pc dongle ? stay with what I have ?


Your beginning to go backwards again.

Wink
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Jun 2014 04:40    Post subject:
So d-link is shit but tp-link is FTW? okay Reaction

I'd also go with cable IF it's not muck of a hassle to just use an already existing cable housing built in your walls (power cables, or preferably the ones for the old antenna lines) AND the distance isn't too high.


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Jun 2014 06:19    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:

How about pc dongle ? stay with what I have ?


Your beginning to go backwards again.

Wink


tonizito wrote:
So d-link is shit but tp-link is FTW? okay Reaction

I'd also go with cable IF it's not muck of a hassle to just use an already existing cable housing built in your walls (power cables, or preferably the ones for the old antenna lines) AND the distance isn't too high.


D-Link used to be good, they haven't been making rock solid stuff for years.


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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Jun 2014 22:36    Post subject:
ohhhh this fucking thing is driving me nuts...
The pc dongle is standing in the same place all the time... but the signal strenght changes all the time.
And the router is just crazy. Just checked. 8mbits... (on 100mb connection). Not touched dongle or anything, rebooted router from it;s settings and 30mbits. Still way to low but You can see that something is up. During the test I was the only connected person btw.
I prolly don't need new dongle if that new asus router with two antenas will have greater signal strenght
edit: I wont give up this easily. Testing bunch of other settings and getting 54mbps now... wonder for how long.

edit: another interesting observation.
Downloading Sleeping Dogs on steam. 6mb up to 20% then suddenly my internet speed caps at 1.1mb (that is megabyte as in 1100kbs) and that's it. I am monitoring my overal network connections and when I loaded Youtube to add to that, sleeping dogs went lower to 700kbps so YOutube could load..... So the fucking router decided to cap my internet at 10mbits(1mb) ?!
Rebooted the router and selected free channel (in that case 3) and bam ! - 6.5mb per second. That is what I should be getting all the time. downloaded another 30% of sleeping Dogs and it have not yet dropped. So...... tp link suck


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2014 07:29    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
spykez is right, TPlink is sub standard stuff, its the sort of low end shit you would find in the new maplin stores - for routers and wifi cards you are so much better off spending and going with a known good brand .


well from my pov : dlink shit, tplink are better and more various hardware and specs wise/money. i dare you, find me a better 3g router at 25 euro vs http://www.tp-link.com/lk/products/details/?model=TL-MR3420 is at my country house since ~1 year ago, and even if power drops sometime 1 time/day and is fluctuating like hell, is still up and running flawless. and it have a great covarage to.
asus low budget are bad aswell. (specs/money)
linksys were good, no ideea how are now.
assus high budget are good, but i would prefered to buy mikrotik instead. i have a custom made mikrotik (we ordered 80 pieces, price was ~230 euro each) at home borrowed from work and is the best router i ever saw/use. hardware and software wise.
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2014 12:55    Post subject:
So yeah... I've downloaded that sleeping dogs yesterday evening at the right speed. 6.5 mb/s (it took like 10 minutes)
and today morning my speed is again capped at 1mb/s (that it 10mbits and I have 100 connection)

In the meantime I've been using my phone wifi. Maybe it have something to do with that. I've restarted router and its ok now

So it seems that after connecting multiple devices, The router somehow slows down and don't go back up even after all devices are disconnected.

I am set to 11bgn mixed because my dads notebook have only g antena but he did not used the laptop since yesterday


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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Jun 2014 17:11    Post subject:
ok I bought this shit... It was most expensive they had in stock at my local it retailer
http://www.tp-link.com.pl/products/details/?categoryid=238&model=TL-WR1043ND
TL-WR1043ND

Will test it later this evening

edit: Well I am getting fantastic signal and speeds are ok too.
Speedtest.net is giving me 40mbits which is not too good with my 100mbit but steam is downloading at 6 megabytes/s so that is over 60mbits. SO GOOD.
lets see if it stays there.

btw. What settings do I need to know? changed all passwords and all typical settings for now
can someone explain me should I bother with dns settings or can I leave it at my default isp settings (dynamic Ip settings)


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