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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 17:59    Post subject:
+1 to Waldo and poop shoots.


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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 21:24    Post subject:
Some retards here have no clue what it means to be depressed and how dark and difficult it really is. How disabling it can be in any regard.
Like true moron internet tough guy, they would "slap" and "bitch" and "lol" and "moral" and whatever to show what big men they are. This is not forum to post this stuff, because of morons like these. Didn't you know, people? Psychology, psychiatry - it's all shit, nfohump says so!

Some days I am truly ashamed of this forum and some of the morons that visit it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 21:38    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Some retards here have no clue what it means to be depressed and how dark and difficult it really is. How disabling it can be in any regard.
Like true moron internet tough guy, they would "slap" and "bitch" and "lol" and "moral" and whatever to show what big men they are. This is not forum to post this stuff, because of morons like these. Didn't you know, people? Psychology, psychiatry - it's all shit, nfohump says so!

Some days I am truly ashamed of this forum and some of the morons that visit it.


Couldn't have put it better myself. As someone that has battled, and continues to battle, depression every day of my life; I'm also ashamed of the stereotypical tough guy bullshit here. God help anyone they truly care about that ends up dealing with depression.
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xxax
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 21:42    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Some retards here have no clue what it means to be depressed and how dark and difficult it really is. How disabling it can be in any regard.
Like true moron internet tough guy, they would "slap" and "bitch" and "lol" and "moral" and whatever to show what big men they are. This is not forum to post this stuff, because of morons like these. Didn't you know, people? Psychology, psychiatry - it's all shit, nfohump says so!

Some days I am truly ashamed of this forum and some of the morons that visit it.


And some of us have experience with it and know that the only way through is to actually want to. Given the track record of some people on here that is clearly not the case. While i don't condone "slapping", "bitching" etc. its what you can expect from people that haven't experienced it. Everyone has their own problems but some people are better at dealing with them, while those that aren't have to learn how to.

Truth be told, depression at the end of it, is something we bring on ourselves regardless of our situation and its on us to get through it. You can blame parents, social conditions, society as a whole (and you are justified to do so), but truth be told noone owes you anything. Waiting for something good to come along and help you get out of it is an illusion, usually bad stuff happens and until you change your attitude and perspective you'll be stuck in a cycle that just keeps repeating itself.
No external stimuli will ever help. While i understand sausje's situation is far from great, the reaction he gets here is kinda like what he'll get in society. And he needs to learn to deal with it.
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xxax
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 21:57    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Anyone that legitimately has experience with depression would never tell someone else that they need to "learn to deal with it" nor would they ever say that depression is our own fault and something we bring on ourselves - what a crock of shit.


After 4 years of therapy and reading countless books on psychology and psychoanalytic that is the truth. And its the only way forward. We can only be responsible for ourselves and not others (except your own children). It took me quite a long time to get to this point and my depression is slowly fading (emphesis on slowly fading). I have a fantastic girlfriend and my relations with people around me have never been better.

We build up defensive structures to shield us from traumatic events from our life (from parents or social contacts) but as we grow older the way of dealing with those things becomes a burden. We want to keep the "status quo" but it doesn't work. Sure these things were brought up by external stimuli, but at the end i did what i had to protect myself from them. And the key here is "I". Sure my father is totally useless and i currently hate his guts, but at the end of the day he is what he is and i have to learn to deal with it, since i'm an adult.
So by your logic if a person is depressed there's nothing he can do. Just take the pills and slowly watch time pass until you die? Now that is a crock of shit.

The fact of the matter is that some of us have a hard time taking responsibility for ourselves and that lies in the heart of the problem.

EDIT: wtf where did your post go?
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 22:00    Post subject:
I removed my post as I have no intention of engaging in pointless debate with you over the subjective nature of an emotionally, and physically, damaging illness to which you seem to think is curable by wishing it away and growing up.
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xxax
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 22:00    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I removed my post as I have no intention of engaging in pointless debate with you over the subjective nature of an emotionally, and physically, damaging illness to which you seem to think is curable by wishing it away.


Wishing it away? Are you serious? I'm talking about really painful work here, i never said this shit was easy. Oh and i like the fact you discredit me on the basis that my depression wasn't the real thing... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 22:05    Post subject:
People just try to help the best they can. Maybe they see their message as motivational or something.They are trying to help in their own way.
There isn't human on this planet that haven't thought about suicide in his lifetime at least once.
There are some types of depression, some worse than others.
Few really take action when it comes to depression, some seek help, some live with it hoping that one day it will get better.
It can hit you at any point in time.And it is really worse when you are really lonely, having no one that can comfort you from time to time. (being the case i guess)Exclamation
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 22:07    Post subject:
HIz wrote:
People just try to help the best they can. Maybe they see their message as motivational or something.They are trying to help in their own way.
There isn't human on this planet that haven't thought about suicide in his lifetime at least once.
There are some types of depression, some worse than others.
Few really take action when it comes to depression, some seek help, some live with it hoping that one day it will get better.
It can hit you at any point in time.And it is really worse when you are really lonely, having no one that can comfort you from time to time. (being the case i guess)Exclamation

If they have nothing better to say, they should shut the fuck up.
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 22:08    Post subject:
xxax wrote:
Oh and i like the fact you discredit me on the basis that my depression wasn't the real thing... Rolling Eyes


Someone that can sit there and judge sufferers, telling them they need to deal with it and that they bring it on themselves, is tantamount to the nonsense on the previous page as far as I'm concerned. It's the actions of a blamer and I find it incredibly hard to believe anyone that has truly dealt with this would sit back and act so smug and sanctimonious about others that are going through trouble like this.

I won't reply again as, unlike you, my depression is far from "fading" - I guess I need to buck my ideas up, get out there, be a man and start realising that this is all my fault and I only have myself to blame. I'll get back to you when I've done that. In the meantime, my apologies for threadshitting, Sausje, just keep your chin up and keep fighting - as cliche as it sounds, you will find someone and you can start to put the pieces back together <3
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 22:11    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I won't reply again as, unlike you, my depression is far from "fading" - I guess I need to buck my ideas up, get out there, be a man and start realising that this is all my fault and I only have myself to blame. I'll get back to you when I've done that.

Don't forget to feed a hungry black kid in Africa. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 22:20    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
xxax wrote:
Oh and i like the fact you discredit me on the basis that my depression wasn't the real thing... Rolling Eyes


Someone that can sit there and judge sufferers, telling them they need to deal with it and that they bring it on themselves, is tantamount to the nonsense on the previous page as far as I'm concerned. It's the actions of a blamer and I find it incredibly hard to believe anyone that has truly dealt with this would sit back and act so smug and sanctimonious about others that are going through trouble like this.

I won't reply again as, unlike you, my depression is far from "fading" - I guess I need to buck my ideas up, get out there, be a man and start realising that this is all my fault and I only have myself to blame. I'll get back to you when I've done that.


Excuse me? When did i start acting smug and sanctimonious? It was never my intention to seem high and mighty and if you see that it may be your problem. The only thing i wrote, if i paraphrase, is that we are responsible for our lives. Do you disagree with this?

And the reason i'm dealing with it (i can't say i dealt with it if thats even the right word) i can maybe give some insight on it. I feel there are only two ways to go about it, either accept it as your fate or try to somehow deal with it, try to turn things around. I fail to see how expecting pity from society would help matters. I totally understand what people who have to deal with this crap have to go through since i have gone through some things where death seemed like the better option. But i refuse to pity people dealing with it, because it can be helped and pitying them won't help them at all. God knows we pity ourselves enormously.

And you're putting words in my mouth with the whole buck up, be a man thing. I never said that. What is it you want from me? Do you feel there's nothing that can be done? If that's the case then we really don't have much to talk about.

LeoNatan wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
I won't reply again as, unlike you, my depression is far from "fading" - I guess I need to buck my ideas up, get out there, be a man and start realising that this is all my fault and I only have myself to blame. I'll get back to you when I've done that.

Don't forget to feed a hungry black kid in Africa. Laughing


Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 22:42    Post subject:
If it was a easy fix there wouldnt be any depressed people around.


Just pink unicorns
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 22:52    Post subject:
TRY BEING DEPRESSED WHEN A LION IS EATING YOUR LEG!!!!
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?!?!?!


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Mar 2014 00:07    Post subject:
Oh man, just when i was doing my best to get her out of my mind, she fucking messages me "I'm sorry for everything (sad) goodnight." ... Crying or Very sad
I can't even block her from that program Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Mar 2014 00:37    Post subject:
xhamster..




Seriously gl matey and dont respond to her txts
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Mar 2014 09:11    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
difm wrote:
Can someone remind me, what's the deal with sausje and his future?


The guy says he doesn't have one? Who cares? lol.
He's so sure he doesn't have one, so positive that it doesn't exist... can't argue with him.

On Topic... lol... If it wasn't reciprocated and it was so easy for the party involved to end it... it wasn't real. It meant nothing. It was just a summer fling. That one night in your bedroom. Repeated over and over and over until the cool air filled the room and shrivelled your nut sack to non-existence!

To put it in simple terms... you felt the touch of a woman, you got all gooey from that touch of a woman, that woman said you can no longer touch her, you got sad.

Is da regular ting for anti social people... once they meet themselves a girl girl girl they go in in in and then they get thrown out out out because the girl girl girl is like no no no.

Go find yourself another one! One that likes anal. They stay put. Once you poke the poop shoot... they stay with you for EVAAAAH!!!!!!! so you best make sure that her poop shoot is clean! And that you actually want to be with her forever. but forever won't last long since your future is nonexistent. so lets just replace forever with a sort of a long time but not really hopefully more than two days. so.... once you poke the poop shoot... they stay with you for a sort of a long time time but not really, hopefully more than two days.


And cheer the fuck up!!!!!!!! You say you got no future every single time you get sad and upset and suicidal. And that's like every 8 months. So clearly you have very low self esteem when it comes to organizing your calendar. Which basically means... stfu... you has future you dip shit.


Brilliant! Very Happy


Such poetry!

Quote:
It was just a summer fling. That one night in your bedroom. Repeated over and over and over until the cool air filled the room and shriveled your nut sack to non-existence!


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Mar 2014 10:20    Post subject:
Wait, what? sausje had a bad relationship and now he has no future?


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Mar 2014 10:22    Post subject:
Kop op saus Smile

Je vind echt wel weer iemand. Wat de rest betreft, die bureaucratische rompslomp gaat nog wel enkele jaren door, maar er zit toch verbetering in? Zolang jij daar gewoon proactief aan werkt en al die schijt instanties gewoon constant op hun staart loopt te trappen blijft dat ook zo. Traag, maar het gaat wel vooruit en ik kan je zeggen dat dat voor veel mensen niet het geval is! Als ik je de verhalen vertel van wat naaste familieleden van me is jouw depressie zo voorbij, zo hard als hen wordt jij nu niet eens meer genaaid Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Mar 2014 16:53    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Oh man, just when i was doing my best to get her out of my mind, she fucking messages me "I'm sorry for everything (sad) goodnight." ... Crying or Very sad
I can't even block her from that program Crying or Very sad


callfilter pro, blocks everything!


I'm sorry saus Sad... but you'll get over it. Trust me...I know how you feel :/

Just try to distract yourself somehow, best way to heal dat shit...
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RatKing




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Mar 2014 17:06    Post subject:
I agree with xxax. Used to be heavily depressed and it still raises its ugly head from time to time.

But I refuse to take anyone's pity on me.

For me it's either fight or just shrivel up and whither away. And giving up is not an option I'm willing to take. No-one else can help me see sunshine and unicorns. I have to do it myself.

Sometimes all you need is a kick on your ass.


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Mar 2014 17:13    Post subject:
Excuse me if i'm really ignorant now, but i don't know much about depression in general. BUT don't we have multiple reasons for depression? Onset from disease, chronic depression etc. Doesn't sound at all as easy to as Sabin says to wish away like you would if you pick yourself up after a bad breakup, in a bad financial situation or suffered a loss of someone close.


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Mar 2014 17:27    Post subject:
Sorry to hear that saus, but you were happy for at least a little while. That has to count for something, no? Don't give up hope, there is one person out there for everyone. Some just take a long time to find, and when you do, you'll know Wink

I honestly know much about you or your situation, but I can say that I hope things do work out for you.

*edit*

there are good people on this board Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Mar 2014 18:17    Post subject:
@Werelds

Ja is gewoon ff klote, voelde me echt weer eens gelukkig voor het eerst in een hele lange tijd.. Maar wat werk betreft denk ik niet dat ik nog zo snel aant werk zou komen, terwijl ik het graag wil, ik wil graag meer verdienen en een fatsoenlijk leven kunnen leiden. Dan kan ik tenminste me vriendin (als ik die dan heb) ook iets bieden ipv dit nu..
Maar nu is hun smoes dat zolang ik geen IT bedrijf vind dat mij een 6 maanden contract aanbied, hun mij niet de opleiding betalen.. Dus ik moet nu hier in Limburg (waar het sowieso redelijk dood is op IT gebied) een bedrijf vinden dat mij 3 maanden wilt betalen (aangezien de WAJONG 3 maanden werken met behoud van uitkering heeft) om voor hun te werken..
Daarna kan ik altijd nog verder kijken voor andere opties want dan heb ik de certificaten toch al en moet het niet meer al te moeilijk zijn.
Maar ja, de laatste 10 jaar al niks gehad, word er gewoon ziek van om hier thuis te zitten en niet te doen waar ik van hou Sad


@Kurosaki

I know that app, but this is on Viber, i don't think it can block it.. Viber self doesn't have an option to block either..
I just wish she would leave me alone but nooooooooo, got another message this morning..


@tw1st

Yes i was really happy, but i wish that it didn't happen, because before i learned to live with not being happy. Now i have felt again what it's like to be really happy and thus will i miss it again now.. Sad


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Mar 2014 18:23    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Excuse me if i'm really ignorant now, but i don't know much about depression in general. BUT don't we have multiple reasons for depression? Onset from disease, chronic depression etc. Doesn't sound at all as easy to as Sabin says to wish away like you would if you pick yourself up after a bad breakup, in a bad financial situation or suffered a loss of someone close.


For fuck sake nobody said anything about wishing it away. I only said that through dedication, hard work and the proper professional help it can be really helped (i can't say cured since its not a fucking disease as much some people would like to think so).

But anyway there's no general reason for depression, usually its quite unique from person to person. And the only type of depression that can be said is rather different is manic depression/bipolar disorder since its much more extreme, mood swings wise.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Mar 2014 07:31    Post subject:
Zzz, and another message in the middle of the night: "I'm really sorry (sad) i'm tired of my life (sad)"

I guess i have to change number now to forget about her... Sad
Typical, just when i was forgetting her and moving on.. These chicks just love to mindfuck huh..


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Mar 2014 07:45    Post subject:
cant you just change im software ?

If not just ignore her, she will get the hint sooner or later, or send her shakespeare ( http://usvsth3m.com/post/80060857300/bristol-man-take-revenge-by-texting-the-entire-works )


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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Mar 2014 07:53    Post subject:
I am ignoring her.. just hope she doesn't do stupid things.. i would feel really guilty..
It's viber, i use it for multiple people.. but you can't block people on there once they know your number..


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Mar 2014 10:00    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
I am ignoring her.. just hope she doesn't do stupid things.. i would feel really guilty..
It's viber, i use it for multiple people.. but you can't block people on there once they know your number..


Why don't you just write back "Please stop texting me, seriously, stop texting me, I don't want to uninstall viber or change my number, so pretty pretty please stop texting me. Thank you Smile"

Cool Face

Ignoring would be the better way though if you don't break down one day and send her a text back when you're drunk..


Btw. why can't you have a job, no education? You can still get educated. I have a friend who just started his apprenticeship with 27, it sucked, but now he got a job. Or are your standards maybe too high? Is it a health issue?
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Mar 2014 11:45    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
I am ignoring her.. just hope she doesn't do stupid things.. i would feel really guilty..
It's viber, i use it for multiple people.. but you can't block people on there once they know your number..


http://support.viber.com/customer/portal/articles/1407764-managing-your-block-list#.UyrGYPk2wao
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