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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 09:01 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | | I don't think either Risen game was as good as Gothic 1 or 2. This will probably be the same, another watered down Gothic. |
What game (in the same type of genre) IS better than G1 or G2?
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 10:02 Post subject: |
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| DarkRohirrim wrote: | | People can bash Risen 2 all they want, overall I liked it more than the first one even though I haven't finished it. Even the combat system was actually good, they just took some weird decisions with it, meaning it hurt the game a lot in the beginning + throughout the entire game when it came to fighting non-humans. |
Anyway, I want to believe that with them not "forcing" the pirate crap like they did on the second game (IMOOOOOOOOO) will actually result in a better game but this time I ain't pre-ordering SHIT! 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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vurt
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 10:10 Post subject: |
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| jackasshole wrote: | | Interinactive wrote: | | I don't think either Risen game was as good as Gothic 1 or 2. This will probably be the same, another watered down Gothic. |
What game (in the same type of genre) IS better than G1 or G2?
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Dark Souls is my new Gothic.. one of the first things i thought about when playing DS. Not saying it's a rip-off in any way (clearly its different in many ways), but it's dark/gothic, unforgiving with great combat, exactly why i liked Gothic1-2..
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 10:12 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 10:46 Post subject: |
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Hopefully not as crap as Risen 2, which I bought and shortly regretted. (Terms of story and possibilities, gameplay was cool enough)
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 11:04 Post subject: |
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gothic 1 and probably 2 once i play it over dark souls any day, with all due respect to dark souls. 
As with regards to devs not being the same people, game studios are like universities.
Even in watered down risen 2, you do find some of their earlier stuff.
They just need to stop trying to water down the formula all the time.
I don't see why they are afraid of making a tough game.
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vurt
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 11:34 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | | Hopefully "going back to our roots" also means a more unforgiving game. |
... in this time and age?! I've started to lose hope... |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 11:46 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | | I still think G2 is one of the best RPG's of all time (G1 aged more badly, unfortunately).. |
For me it's the other way around... 
With none of them aging badly, IMO.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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couleur
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 12:01 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: |
(G1 aged more badly, unfortunately)..
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you know what to do vurt...
jk, your work on Gothic II and everything else you did is exceptional enough. Last time I played through GII was with your mod and it was glorious!
edit:
Here is a resumée from the PCGames Article someone posted at WoR:
| Quote: | Kampfsystem:
- Es gibt einen Prolog, in dem man bereits mit höherstufigen Fähigkeiten experimentieren kann - danach geht es mit Stufe 1 weiter
- Monster können geblockt werden
- Von Anfang an sind bereits eine Ausweichrolle und Kurzstrecken-Teleports möglich um Kämpfen zu entkommen
- Große Rüstungen und Schwerter, sowie Feuerball und Blitzangriff
- Vodoo Magie ist voraussichtlich auch wieder mit dabei
- Betäubte Gegner können wieder beraubt werden
- Gruppenmitglieder, die einen im Kampf unterstützen sind wieder vorhanden
- Kampfsystem mit vier verschiedenen Aktionen und rudimentären Combos
- DLC's werden größeren Umfang bieten
- Fleisch braten, etc. findet erneut in einem separaten Fenster statt
- Spielwelt: Vorrangig mitteleuropäisch, aber auch mediterrane und tropische Regionen
- Die Welt ist wie immer bei PB komplett von Hand modelliert
- Schwimmen ist wieder möglich!
- Wie in Risen 2 voneinander abgeschnittene Regionen - eine freie Begehung der Spielwelt ohne Ladebildschirme ist also erneut nicht möglich
- Wie immer mehrere Gilden (voraussichtlich drei) von denen man sich einer anschließen darf
- Bereits bekannt sind die Wächter, die den früheren Paladinen entsprechen
- Neue Gegner: Die Schatten (Untote, die aus Totenkopfhöhlen emporsteigen)
- Die Seele des Hauptcharakters wird anfangs durch einen mächtigen Schattenlord verschluckt
- Danach hat er einen Seelenwert, der sich entweder Richtung Menschlichkeit oder Richtung dämonisches Wesen ändern lässt.
- Neuer Held, der Hauptcharakter aus den Vorgänger spielt aber eine tragende Rolle in Risen 3
- Nahrungsmittel werden erneut in Proviant zusammengefasst
Technisch:
- Wiederum Steam Pflicht und keine Mod-Tools
- Spiel wird für PS3, XBox 360 und PC entwickelt - Next Gen Konsolen wurden in der Vorschau nicht erwähnt
- Die Engine ist die gleiche wie in Risen 2 mit aufpolierter Detaildarstellung - aber die Minuspunkte der Grafik aus Risen 2 (zum Beispiel die rudimentär animierten Dialoge) sollen nach wie vor vorhanden sein und wirken insbesondere im Vergleich zu den Konkurrenten Witcher 3 und Dragon Age: Inquisition nicht mehr zeitgemäß.
- Voraussichtlicher Release: August 2014 |
My translation:
| Quote: | Combat System:
- There will be a Prologue, where you’ll be able to experiment with higher-level skills, after that you’ll continue on level 1.
- Monsters can be blocked 
- From the beginning you’ll be able to perform a derp-roll and short-teleports to escape combat
- Big armours and swords, fireball and Lightning
- There will probably be Voodoo Magic again
- stunned enemies can be robbed
- you will have support from party members
- combat system with four different actions and simple combos
Other:
- DLC’s will bring more content
- Roasting meat will happen in a separate window
- Ingame world: mostly middle-european, but Mediterranean and tropical regions aswell
- The whole landmass will be designed completely by hand (not generated)
- Swimming will be possible again
- Just like Risen 2, separated Regions – it will be impossible to travel the whole world without loading screens (Well technically, Gothic 2 DNDR had those aswell)
- Like always several joinable guilds (probably three)
- One those will be the wardens(guards), who will be like the former Paladins
- New enemies: Shadows (Undead, who will rise from Skullcaves)
- The soul of the main char will be eaten by a shadow lord in the beginning (maybe explaining his skill loss)
- After that he will have a soul-value, that can be changed in direction of humanity or demonic entity.
- New hero, the hero from R1&R2 will be playing an important role though.
- Food will again be merged into provisions
Technical:
- Only playable with Steam & no modding tools
- Developed for X360, PS3 and PC. No Next-Gen was mentioned. FFFFFFFUUUUUUUU
- Same engine as Risen 2, with polished Details, but the bad points (whatever they mean) will stay, like rudimentary dialogues. So the engine will look dated compared to Witcher 3 and DA:Inquisition. (Personally, I don’t give a fu about that)
- Expected Release: August 2014
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EDIT: Also there will be a minimap! 
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 12:33 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | | Quote: | | - Monsters can be blocked |
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I don't see what's so wrong about that IF the enemy is around the same size as you are and IF you're carrying a big-ass shield.
If it's done with a one hand or two handed sword in the same scenario(like in TES), then I agree,
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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couleur
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 12:39 Post subject: |
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Indeed, if its done with a shield then its ok. I automatically assumed otherwise.
Lets hope you are right then.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 12:50 Post subject: |
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Probably not (remembers gothic 3)
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 13:15 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | [quote="vurt"
With none of them aging badly, IMO. |
same
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 13:21 Post subject: |
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Concerning the GER-ENG translation above:
'Proviant' is simply 'provisions' in English. Meaning food, basically.
| Frant wrote: | | Shitass games are ruining piracy. |
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couleur
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 13:25 Post subject: |
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| r3dshift wrote: | Concerning the GER-ENG translation above:
'Proviant' is simply 'provisions' in English. Meaning food, basically. |
Thanks, I edited my post.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 13:36 Post subject: |
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No problem.
| Frant wrote: | | Shitass games are ruining piracy. |
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 16:08 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | | Probably not (remembers gothic 3) |
BOARS OF DOOM ... that could stun lock you where AMAZING AWESOME  |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 17:47 Post subject: |
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@couleur thanks for the translation! 
That doesn't sound too bad. Not too good either though..as in, we can forget about a truly hardcore game since it sounds like a slightly watered down experience, and "only" an evolution over Risen 2.
Which is still fine to me, as long as they really fix what they broke (combat) and pay more attention to variety of locations/improve the quality of quests etc.
Their policy with DLCs will probably be terribad as usual, that goes without saying, but I'll ISOdemo everything first in order to avoid further disappointments xD
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 19:59 Post subject: |
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That sounds like Risen 2 indeed, just a bit different.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Feb 2014 20:40 Post subject: |
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I totally dig Risen 1 and 2. Really immersive games (great atmosphere and no instances), the way I like it.
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Feb 2014 12:13 Post subject: |
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| Aquma wrote: | | I liked both Risens, though both were fundamentally flawed (second one much more so, obviously). I'll definitely give the third one a chance. PB games have that rare something, that makes you want to continue playing them, despite the problems and shittines attacking you relentlessly, from every possible side, like a pack rabid boars... |
This, 100% this. I really enjoyed both Risen games, bwohbwohbwoh aside, so I'll definitely play Risen 3 when it comes
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Feb 2014 12:15 Post subject: |
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Risen 1 was so much better than 2, and the main issue was with the silly combat. Which was very good in 1, and sucked hard in 2.
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Feb 2014 17:11 Post subject: |
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Piranha Bytes, the creators of Gothic and Risen, return to their origins with a new, classic RPG. Risen 3: Titan Lords pulls the player in to a handcrafted role-playing world full of rugged charm where every decision changes the course of the story. Risen 3: Titan Lords is set for release in August 2014 for the Xbox 360 games and entertainment system from Microsoft and for the PlayStation®3 computer entertainment system as well as Windows PC.
The key element of the cult Gothic series as well as Risen is the vivid world and the freedom to explore it. The world of Risen 3: Titan Lords will be diverse, authentic and full of life, providing the player with an authentic, classic RPG experience.
“Like a carpenter with a handcrafted piece of furniture, we put together the story, the characters and the landscape until it all fits and the player has the possibility to discover things all around the place. You can try out and find things that others might not. Exploration is the key to our game”, says Bjoern Pankratz, Project Lead at Piranha Bytes.
The world of Risen 3 is abandoned by all gods and suffers from the Titan Wars when a new threat rises from the soil. A young warrior is attacked from the shadows and deprived of his soul. He sets off to reclaim what is lost amidst the darkness that is spreading throughout the world. The banned Mages could be powerful allies on his quest. To get their help, he needs to find the Mage sanctuary on Taranis, also known as the Island of Thunder. Protected by the Guardians, the Mages search the mines of Taranis for crystals loaded with magic energy. Will the player join the Guardians to get in contact with the Mages? Or will he choose one of the other guilds in Risen 3 to reach his goals?
Official Website: http://risen3.deepsilver.com
Facebook: www.facebook.com/risengame
Twitter: www.twitter.com/deepsilver
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Feb 2014 19:43 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Feb 2014 19:50 Post subject: |
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These guys need an episodic release schedule since they can't seem to finish their game in time/properly.
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