Made a website, but the client didnt pay
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Freakness
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 15:02    Post subject: Made a website, but the client didnt pay
I made a wp site, but the client havent paid, so I wonder what should I do now? I'm thinking of possibility of haken it. Cant do this myself though... Problem is I protected the website with javascript obsusator and hidemywp plugin. Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 15:06    Post subject:
sue him?
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 15:08    Post subject:
Baseball bat to the knees?


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Freakness
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 15:09    Post subject:
I dont wanna sue him, because its too much hassle. I just want to teach him a lesson.
vaifan1986 wrote:
Baseball bat to the knees?
He is not Dick Cheney.
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 16:05    Post subject:
You don't have admin username and pass? Or ftp details? How did you get the site up?


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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 16:13    Post subject:
Freakness wrote:
I dont wanna sue him, because its too much hassle. I just want to teach him a lesson.


Honestly, THAT is the ONLY way to teach him a lesson. If you hack him or anyone else, he will know it was you and at that point YOU are the one doing the wrong thing and can get into serious shit for it.
I wouldn't suggest doing it.


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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 16:26    Post subject:
I'm guessing you didn't have any kind of agreement on a document, did you ?
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 16:26    Post subject:
Nobody here is going to help you hack some site and do not ask such stuff on this forum again!

Second: What does code obfuscation have to do with the vulnerability of a word press page? I don't believe that you made a whole webpage and don't have a local version of the code.

And if WP were to be such an easy hackable platform, it would hardly be the most used blog software on the net

Captain Hindsight: You shouldn't have given him the files before he payed you.

And if you want valid advice, listen to the people that suggest suing him. Of course if he is in another country you'll most likely not succeed. Especially not if you don't do this professionally and pay taxes for your work etc.


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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 16:28    Post subject:
People are paying for wordpress sites? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 16:33    Post subject:
Send a DMCA notification! Seems to work for everyone even if it's not valid Laughing


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paxsali
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 16:36    Post subject:
Why don't you go fuck yourself?

Your client would approve. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 16:49    Post subject:
I thought step 1 to stuff like that was to leave a way in for yourself.


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Freakness
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 17:05    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
Nobody here is going to help you hack some site and do not ask such stuff on this forum again!

Where did I state I wanna hack it? I wrote I want to hak it, not hack it. Smile Youre just like madmax, when I say nagger, he accuses me of saying nigger and bans. Wink

Its the sixth site I made for him and I have a backup. I deleted style file and images folder and I was hoping he would pay, but he refused. He restored site through backups most likely. Its the only deal I had with him I didnt have a contract.
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paxsali
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 17:16    Post subject:
Freakness wrote:
Its the sixth site I made for him and I have a backup. I deleted style file and images folder and I was hoping he would pay, but he refused. He restored site through backups most likely. Its the only deal I had with him I didnt have a contract.


Just go to the police and file a lawsuit against this guy. When the police asks you for contracts and contacts and money and the taxes, ... you say "nah, forget it I just go to a forum and try something else, nevermind..."
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 17:16    Post subject:
Sounds like you set yourself up to be in this situation


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Freakness
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 17:39    Post subject:
i'm not interested in the past. I'm interested in the future, you know what I mean...
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paxsali
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 21:24    Post subject:
Freakness wrote:
i'm not interested in the past. I'm interested in the future, you know what I mean...


Oh I know watcha mean, little darlin'...

Place a dead horses head on his bed while he's asleep. That'll teach him.
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Feb 2014 21:51    Post subject:
so you don't has log in info?


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Freakness
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Feb 2014 00:19    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
so you don't has log in info?
what?
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Guy_Incognito




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Feb 2014 00:23    Post subject:
log in info, you has no one such thing
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Feb 2014 00:32    Post subject: Re: Made a website, but the client didnt pay
Pee in his butt
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Freakness
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Feb 2014 12:33    Post subject:
Guy_Incognito wrote:
log in info, you has no one such thing
passwords have been changed by him ofc.
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Pee in his butt
He is not Dick Cheney.
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Reg67




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Feb 2014 12:37    Post subject:
Give the guy a break he made a mistake, we all make them at some time or other.

First of all go to a solicitor mate, or (if you have a similar organistation in your country) a citizens advice, you can get free legal advice from them.

As to going to the police? They won't give a toss. A good solicitor or citizens advice is your first port of call.

By the way was it a work related site you developed for him?
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Freakness
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Feb 2014 13:46    Post subject:
Well, the story is long and its hard to explain. So I wont go there. And I wont go for legal advise, cuz I dont need one. My mother is a lawyer so I got support.

I just need to get my money back. But I have a feeling he will give them to me, because I deleted some files from older websites I made and he badly wants them back. He threatens he will sue me, but I think he's bluffing. He says he'll sue me on monday, but I dont give a shit. Incase he will not give me money I need to hak it.

Also I need to prepare for future projects. Does anyone know of a good plugin to remotely control the site?
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Feb 2014 14:01    Post subject:
You can try https://managewp.com

But #1 rule is to never give them the files

Did you charge them 50% up front before any work began? #2 rule.

When a site is done and ready to be viewed/critiqued it's better to do it on your own host. This way you're not giving them a thing and they can still see what's what.

If for some strange reason that they need it on their host, make a bunch of dependencies that link away from where their site resides. So they would host WP, the theme etc, but you could point all the CSS/JS files to your own host, that way if you delete them his site will stop working. That isn't fool proof, but if they're getting someone to do their sites for them, they'd most likely not know how to combat that.

Police won't do shit, it'd (likely, depending on where you live) be a civil matter. Don't take it to court, unless you're 110% sure that you can win, you'll lose, be it the original amount or the court fees.

How much does he owe you? Unless it's thousands, then as above...
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Freakness
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Feb 2014 14:26    Post subject:
Thanks, I'll try this plugin.
Yeah I usually ask for %50. And yeah, I put the files to some free host, but they deleted everything. I dont like moving files there and there, so I like to set up sites on the final host. Yeah, putting images to offsite location is a simple, but good idea. How come I didnt think about it. Im an optimist regarding clients, but I should make my work more secure.
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Feb 2014 15:08    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
Send a DMCA notification! Seems to work for everyone even if it's not valid Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Feb 2014 15:20    Post subject:
Did the client drink vodka redbulls?
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Feb 2014 16:05    Post subject:
Freakness wrote:
PumpAction wrote:
Nobody here is going to help you hack some site and do not ask such stuff on this forum again!

Where did I state I wanna hack it? I wrote I want to hak it, not hack it. Smile Youre just like madmax, when I say nagger, he accuses me of saying nigger and bans.


This makes no sense.

Hak or hack we know what you meant. Just as Madmax probably knows what you mean when you say nagger lol.

Good luck with your issue though.


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Freakness
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Feb 2014 16:20    Post subject:
Maybe he can read my mind too? Thought police?
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