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 Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 11:03 Post subject: WD HDD's Blue VS Black . Wich's better for overall? |
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I tend to do a lot of gaming and photoshopping/Premiere Pro in my PC but also using Fraps to record 30 mins of gaming
I actually have 1 WD HDD Blue 1TB and i'd like to find something bigger but faster...NOT AN SSD due to the life span (or whatever it's said) even if the speed is tremendous
I was wondering if upgrading from my Blue 1TB to a WB Black 2TB would make any big difference or anything
There's also this WD SSD+1TB HDD but i don't know how that would correctly work..specially since i have Windows XP and Windows 7 in my actuall HDD (Partitioned)
Any help?
Thanks in advance
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 11:18 Post subject: |
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The Black is significantly faster than the Blue in pretty much every task, but for everyday use you really won't notice it all that much. Your best option, which you've already negated, is a decent SSD for OS/Photoshop/various intensive games and 2TB Black for everything else.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 11:26 Post subject: |
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I'll go with 2TB Black whenever i have the time n stuff.. Thanks man.
I'm saying no to SSDs because,besides of the small capacity and "caution" you have to take, i don't wanna be one that accidentally pokes the Defragmentation Tool on it ^^; XDDDDD...I tend to do that whenever the PC acts rare
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 13:28 Post subject: |
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| DV2 wrote: | | I tend to do that whenever the PC acts rare |
So you regularly waste a few hours doing that for 0 gain? Because mechanical drives nowadays may not have access times as quick as an SSD, they are still quick enough that defragmenting is absolutely pointless. Unless it's a 5400 RPM low power drive, there's really no point in defragmenting. |
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 13:35 Post subject: |
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Defragmenting in win8 is disabled for SSD's anyway, donno about win7 tho..
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 13:39 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 13:47 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | DV2 wrote: | | I tend to do that whenever the PC acts rare |
So you regularly waste a few hours doing that for 0 gain? Because mechanical drives nowadays may not have access times as quick as an SSD, they are still quick enough that defragmenting is absolutely pointless. Unless it's a 5400 RPM low power drive, there's really no point in defragmenting. |
that's useful to know werelds, thx
guess i wont waste time myself too.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 14:03 Post subject: |
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Don't 
The few milliseconds saved after defragmenting are barely noticeable. Your HDD is never in a state where it can actually read a long string of blocks sequentially properly. If it's your system drive, it'll be jumping back and forth regardless. If it's just a data drive, the seek time on a decent drive is around 10-12ms and that's hardly going to affect the overall read speed. All the software involved furthermore attempts to keep the blocks sequential as good as it can to begin with.
It's not entirely useless, but there's no point in doing it more than once every 2-3 years or so. It takes a long time for data to become fragmented to a point where defragging helps.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 15:07 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | The Black is significantly faster than the Blue in pretty much every task, but for everyday use you really won't notice it all that much. Your best option, which you've already negated, is a decent SSD for OS/Photoshop/various intensive games and 2TB Black for everything else. |
And what type of SSD that'd last hella loads of time would you recommend?..
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 15:16 Post subject: |
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Lol. Ssd droces are not as fragile as they ised to be. And defrag tool only should be disabked on windows 7
i personally have wd blue as my second drive and its almos as fast as my ssd in daily usage
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 15:23 Post subject: |
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you can't defrag a SSD in windows 7. It's disabled by default.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 15:23 Post subject: |
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| DV2 wrote: | | sabin1981 wrote: | | The Black is significantly faster than the Blue in pretty much every task, but for everyday use you really won't notice it all that much. Your best option, which you've already negated, is a decent SSD for OS/Photoshop/various intensive games and 2TB Black for everything else. |
And what type of SSD that'd last hella loads of time would you recommend?.. |
Pretty much every SSD out there? Just how "quick" do you think SSDs "die"? |
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 15:35 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | samsung 840 EVO 120GB
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If you don't play those 20+ GB BF games it will do just fine 
And only have no more than 2-3 games installed at the same time ofc
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Well, it's enough for me but on the other hand I only have windows and a few small programs in it besides 2-3 games.
And ofc you'll need to have a separate HDD for all the other stuff.
And what did you mean by performance, is the 250GB faster than the 120GB? 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 15:51 Post subject: |
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Blacks have a 5 year warranty, Blue only 3 years.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 16:05 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | Well, it's enough for me but on the other hand I only have windows and a few small programs in it besides 2-3 games.
And ofc you'll need to have a separate HDD for all the other stuff.
And what did you mean by performance, is the 250GB faster than the 120GB? |
actually, yes
http://www.1000ordi.ch/samsung-ssd-840-evo-msata-120-gb-mz-mte120bw-85014_en.pdf
DRAM Cache Memory
256MB (120GB) or 512MB(250GB&500GB) or 1GB (1TB) LPDDR2
4KB Random Write(QD1):
Max. 40,000 IOPS(250GB/500GB/1TB)
Max. 37,000 IOPS(120GB)
4KB Random Read(QD32):
Max. 97,000 IOPS (250GB/500GB/1TB)
Max. 95,000 IOPS (120GB)
4KB Random Write(QD32):
Max. 88,000 IOPS (500GB/1TB)
Max. 71,000 IOPS (250GB)
Max. 37,000 IOPS (120GB)
etc etc
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 16:16 Post subject: |
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Oh... didn't know about that 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 16:19 Post subject: |
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I'd grab 2 blacks, and shove em in RAID 0, what I have, and they perform well for HDD's.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 16:29 Post subject: |
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....What's this RAID 0 i've been hearing about for many months?..Does my MoBo has it? (It's in the sig)
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 16:31 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | you can't defrag a SSD in windows 7. It's disabled by default. |
its totally not.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 16:36 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | Sin317 wrote: | | you can't defrag a SSD in windows 7. It's disabled by default. |
its totally not. |
weird, with my last windows 7 installation, the SSD was actually greyed out in the defrag tool. But not so anymore. weird indeed.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 23:29 Post subject: |
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So i ended up buying that SAMSUNG 840 EVO 250GB (Just in case,had the money for it, costed 140€) and bought the "Brackets" for my tower...Sadly,the manual from the EVO was a BITCH, saying that an special USB connector for transfering shit was there but WASN'T THERE and some screws and a "rest plate" ALSO WASN'T THERE (LAZY SAMSUNG!)...Just the SSD , stickers (<3) and a DVD for transferring shit (but not the drivers? Oo..Windows 7,before the format, detected the unit correctly,so it said)
good thing i could mount Just one of the brackets...sadly, hanging the SSD in the air..Connection was a bit of a pain due to having just the needed 3 SATA plugs ,1 for the DVD, 1 for the SSD and 1 for the 1TB WD Blue (One more night to get LUCK-KY)
So i've installed Windows 7 64bits HP and well ,SEEMS that everything goes as it should (though some installs like Itunes tooked...more seconds than expected  )
Is there a way to see if my SSD works as it should?...
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samsung magician
didn't that come with your evo ?
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