[iOS/Android] Final Fantasy VI (VII maybe following)
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jan 2014 15:04    Post subject:
This damn thing is never coming out on iOS Sad I'll just grab a HDMI cable for my Ion and play it on the TV Laughing I'd wait for a no-root copy of 1.10 though, Jack, due to the game-breaking Thamasa bug in 1.0
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jan 2014 18:57    Post subject:
Pixieking wrote:
There's a pre-cracked APK version 1.0.1 around on the Bay, says it doesn't need to be rooted. If anyone's interested. Smile

nice will try later Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jan 2014 21:42    Post subject:
http://www.gamingbus.com/2014/01/24/games-ive-been-playing-that-final-fantasy-vi-port-android/

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Even more problematic, the game simply doesn’t run very well. I have a Galaxy S3, which is not the latest phone from Samsung but it’s not chopped liver, either; any time my phone does anything, or gets any kind of notification, the game slows to an absolute crawl. Even in the course of the game, such as when fighting against a load of enemies or casting a spell with effects, the game becomes borderline unplayable and makes my phone literally hot to the touch.


Yup, I knew it was running piss-poorly, it was dodgy as all hell on my Ion and I tried, I really tried, but no.. I can't play it like that, randomly stuttering and hitching is not a fun experience. I'll wait for the iOS version if it ever comes. SE's latest twitter excuse was "before the end of winter" so yay, could be another two months.
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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Jan 2014 23:32    Post subject:
It amazes me and depresses me and amazes me how much it depresses me how fall Squaresoft has fallen. They will always be Squaresoft to me, but damn, so bad.. :'(


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Jan 2014 16:58    Post subject:
so,this is expected to run like shit on android tablets aswell,yes?was about to get it for my gf but if its no fun to play i wont bother


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Jan 2014 19:08    Post subject:
BettyShikle wrote:
so,this is expected to run like shit on android tablets aswell,yes?was about to get it for my gf but if its no fun to play i wont bother

game runs silky smooth on a galaxy s4 here, and tablets are usually many times faster so you won't have any kind of performance problems.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Jan 2014 20:18    Post subject:
I don't get it. I've never played this game, but from what i see the updated models look, well, updated. I don't see whats wrong with their art style as it very much looks like the original.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Jan 2014 20:40    Post subject:
The backgrounds and enemy battlers are like the original, really high quality redraws too, but the sprites look nothing like the original and they're just terrible Sad

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Proportions, perspective, style. All different and, I'm my opinion, significantly worse. Made even worse by the lack of shadows cast by sprites, which makes them look like cheap stickers on high quality backgrounds.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 00:32    Post subject:
Ah god man, spoiler that thing next time, jeez, I was eating man!


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 00:40    Post subject: ,


The most hilarious thing is, I'm still chomping at the bit to get the game for my iPad so I can play again. Dodgy, screwed up sprites or not it's still FFVI and I'll take any chance to play a new version of it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 08:37    Post subject:
if the sprites so bother you guys,MAYBE, the game can be modded to "fix" the problem.
don't know how modding works on android though.


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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 11:42    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
The backgrounds and enemy battlers are like the original, really high quality redraws too, but the sprites look nothing like the original and they're just terrible Sad

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Proportions, perspective, style. All different and, I'm my opinion, significantly worse. Made even worse by the lack of shadows cast by sprites, which makes them look like cheap stickers on high quality backgrounds.


the main problems are perspective and lack of black outlines like in original sprites, hence it looks vaselined.
generally sprites have black outlines to separate body parts from each other, while the new sprites only have a black outline around the sprite itself.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 11:56    Post subject:
Aye, I noticed that too. You lose definition and it makes it hard to look at, especially the new "absolute" perspective too,which is front/back/left/right whereas typical FF sprites, and indeed most pixel art sprites, have a sort of slanted perspective that makes it look like the characters are standing at an angle. It's charming and shows more detail/character, something lost on these. Just look at all the sprites from all the 8/16bit RPGs and you'll see how they look, it's even like the old scrolling schmups like R-Type, when the ships scroll down or up the screen, they rotate slightly and it gives depth to the sprite, unlike earlier schmups that used absolute perspectives that make the images look static as they move.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 11:59    Post subject:
also now when i look at it, the colour palette is lighter and more washed out, it looks like they had the original colours and then went over it slightly with an eraser.
definitely weird and sub-optimal design choices.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 13:12    Post subject:
anal retentiveness is high in this thread Laughing
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 13:18    Post subject:
Trolling douchebaggery is at it's highest too. Funny how that works Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 13:38    Post subject:
i agree, how long can you keep trolling and obsessing over a few sprites ffs
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 13:41    Post subject:
As long as I feel like, got a problem with that? Get over it. We were having a discussion and you, as always with your vile nature, come swanning in and throwing your weight around. I have more respect for Jack than I ever have or ever will for you, you utterly pointless creature. I will continue discussing the sprites until such time as I see fit Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 13:50    Post subject:
oh great, personal insults start from a self centered man child. nothing unexpected...

yes, i got a problem with it. i wanted to get some info on the game but all i see is your and other worthless rants about sprites or whatever, keep your personal fetish and personal anger out of here.

ever stop to think that you aren't center of the universe and "problems" you see in the game aren't problems that everyone else sees in the game?

you think i give a single shit about your respect? you are one of the biggest jokes on the internet, you are universally disliked in pretty much every online community you are in. Laughing
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 13:51    Post subject:
Cool story, bro If you wanted discussion about the game, you should have started one rather than expecting everyone else to conform to your demands. FFVI is twenty years old, whatever there is to say about the game itself has already been said over and over, so what is left for those of us that HAVE played the game is to discuss the various ports and to reminisce about everything else. In this case Zeel and I, along with others too, were discussing an aspect about the port that appeals to and interests us; the aesthetics. Once I've played the port for myself I'll happily discuss more of it with anyone that wishes to, but in the meantime what bothers me is the visuals.

If you haven't played the game and want to discuss something about it, do so, start talking and if others are interested they'll join in. See, that's how discussions work, someone broaches a subject and others join in, instead you come along and demand that they stop talking about something YOU don't like and instead demand they talk about what YOU want.

How horrifyingly self-centred of you.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 14:45    Post subject:
Not played it for any length of time on my 2012 Nexus 7, but it seems... Okay. Compared to the SNES version, the translation seems a bit clumsy (come back Ted Woolsey... Cooooommmmme baaaaaaack Laughing ), and it doesn't seem very technically proficient - there's some slowdown on the intro, the "walking into town" scene (no Mode7 background! Crying or Very sad ), and a bit of slowdown just after that scene, when the 3 characters enter the town and the view is top-down. To be sure, my Nexus 7 is an old model, but it's still a Nexus 7. *pout* (Oh, the slowdown might be crack-related? Unlikely, but still...)

Oh, also, I did some digging and it appears to be the GBA version, mostly. The translation is apparently from the GBA release, and it's got the censored Celes torture scene.

All-in-all, it's not worth the £10.99(!), they're asking for it, but it's probably just about worth £3 or £4. I'm considering whether the redesigned touch-screen controls are worth it, or whether I should just play the emulated version on tablet.

Oh, and, yeah, I'm using the root-less version I mentioned above.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 14:51    Post subject:
Pixieking wrote:
Oh, also, I did some digging and it appears to be the GBA version, mostly. The translation is apparently from the GBA release, and it's got the censored Celes torture scene.


Now THIS is interesting, thank you! I haven't seen a hybrid version of FFVI yet, they're usually based on SNES or GBA versions, the latter lacking the Celes torture scene but containing the new Espers/spells/translation.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 14:53    Post subject:
Ok guys can we calm down please?

@rgb#000: Fine, you think it's irrelevant to discuss about the sprites, others don't. Why do you even bother giving a smirky remark?

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Having said that, the new sprites look terrible. They have been drawn in a low resolution, then upscaled, blurred (with something like 2xSAI) and the ugly borders come from the dark background as there is apparently only 1-bit alpha masking going on. They basically did everything wrong and the main reason for this seems to be greed/laziness.

Sad.


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 15:28    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Pixieking wrote:
Oh, also, I did some digging and it appears to be the GBA version, mostly. The translation is apparently from the GBA release, and it's got the censored Celes torture scene.


Now THIS is interesting, thank you! I haven't seen a hybrid version of FFVI yet, they're usually based on SNES or GBA versions, the latter lacking the Celes torture scene but containing the new Espers/spells/translation.


Oh, just re-read this, and I think I might've worded it badly. What, I meant was that it is censored. Sad It has the censored version of the torture scene, from the GBA release.

Sorry, my fault. (Been up since 5am. Sad )


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 15:32    Post subject:
Ah damn, actually I think I misread it too >_< That's a shame, it would have been nice to see the "definitive" content version of the game,I'm surprised there's not even an IPS for the SNES version that brings over the GBA additions and refinements. There's plenty of patches and hacks, but not a GBA-style hack, not as far as I know. Thanks Pixie!
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 15:34    Post subject:
translation is from gba, luckily music is from snes though.
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 15:59    Post subject:
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@rgb#000: Fine, you think it's irrelevant to discuss about the sprites, others don't. Why do you even bother giving a smirky remark?

why can some members post smirky remarks but not others? it should be either allowed for everyone or no one (leonatan's, tonizito's etc every post is remark)

also, you warn me for smirky remark which isn't against the rules in any shape or form but you don't warn sabin for all the rage infused personal attacks he unleashed on me?

and most importantly i wasn't against discussing sprites, just merely making fun that it's done in a overly obsessive nature... some people just don't know how to take a joke... sheesh

i actually like how the new version looks Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 16:08    Post subject:
Where did I warn you? Where did I say that you breach any rules?

I see Sabins outrage coming from your bait, that's why I asked everybody to calm down.

If Leo's or Tonizito's messages feel baiting to you, please feel free to report them and I will gladly look into the report, just like I look into anybody elses report.

And just calling people anal retentive for discussing the horrible sprites isn't very funny dude, maybe they would've laughed at your joke if it was a bit funnier


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Jan 2014 16:49    Post subject:
apparently one guy couldn't eat because he found sprites that bad, oh come on, it is pretty funny and my remark was bang on, sorry you don't see it that way. Wink
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Jan 2014 00:14    Post subject:
There's been some chatter concerning the iOS release, SE just put FFIV and TAY on sale with the text "Final Fantasy VI comming soon to iOS" added to the sale text. TA seem to be anticipating a release this Wednesday or Thursday. Just chatter though.

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