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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 09:14    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
dre10g wrote:
http://g3ar.co.za/2013/11/27/xbox-one-has-already-been-hacked/



Don't pull a JackQ Razz as somebody said before, dumping a NAND won't magically hack the xbone. It s still heavily encrypted and thus heavily useless...

On top of that, it s already been posted.

Oh come on Cyclone, those articles provides plenty of lulz.

Allow me to demonstrate, from the comments on that post:
Garrit4Ever wrote:
that’s my opinion, the PS3 was all in japanese(hardware side) the PS4 is not, so I just think it’s not going to be that much more difficult



Followed by a classic:
John Knight wrote:
Piracy is every where, the PC just has so much more of it, so it overshadows all the other piracy


Then there's geniuses like this:
Julian wrote:
I’m hardly surprised they cracked it so soon, afterall the console is based on the same x86 architecture that people have been hacking and cracking for years.


Of course, team Xbox has to reprezent yo:
Jarrod Lane (@noodleza) wrote:
This is why the console shoulda been online only…



Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 09:26    Post subject:
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Piracy is every where, the PC just has so much more of it, so it overshadows all the other piracy.


Pretty sure the most pirated system of all time ever currently is actually the DS and Nintendo still didn't really have problems.
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 09:27    Post subject:
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/sony-hints-that-the-ps4-lifecycle-may-be-shorter-than-ps3-1203461

Yes please.


"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.

Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 09:32    Post subject:
EyePatchLives wrote:
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/sony-hints-that-the-ps4-lifecycle-may-be-shorter-than-ps3-1203461

Yes please.


Of course it will be. With steambox coming out and PC's generally becoming cheaper across the board these gaming consoles won't last very long, nor will they have the huge number of exclusives that move the systems.
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 10:04    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
cyclonefr wrote:
dre10g wrote:
http://g3ar.co.za/2013/11/27/xbox-one-has-already-been-hacked/



Don't pull a JackQ Razz as somebody said before, dumping a NAND won't magically hack the xbone. It s still heavily encrypted and thus heavily useless...

On top of that, it s already been posted.

Oh come on Cyclone, those articles provides plenty of lulz.

Allow me to demonstrate, from the comments on that post:
Garrit4Ever wrote:
that’s my opinion, the PS3 was all in japanese(hardware side) the PS4 is not, so I just think it’s not going to be that much more difficult



Followed by a classic:
John Knight wrote:
Piracy is every where, the PC just has so much more of it, so it overshadows all the other piracy


Then there's geniuses like this:
Julian wrote:
I’m hardly surprised they cracked it so soon, afterall the console is based on the same x86 architecture that people have been hacking and cracking for years.


Of course, team Xbox has to reprezent yo:
Jarrod Lane (@noodleza) wrote:
This is why the console shoulda been online only…



Laughing


Ok, the first one if officially the stupidest thing I've ever read on the internet Laughing
The second is kinda true Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 10:28    Post subject:
No, it's not Laughing

It's just that the consoles (well, one of them anyway Cool Face) had hardware protections which you don't get on the PC. But once that was cracked, piracy on it is as rampant as it is on the PC. And if you look at the hump, more and more people buy games on the PC, because they're much more affordable even outside Steam sales Wink


My PS4 will be delivered between 2 and 4 today So Much Win
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 10:38    Post subject:
mine is coming on the 23rd, thats the release date of the killzone bundle with 2 controllers and cam.
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 11:43    Post subject:
My PS4 will be delivered between 12:45PM and 1:45PM today! So Much Win

Finally gonna be able to play AC4 Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 11:51    Post subject:
damn, people already are killing themselves in shop queues over old hardware with one note worthy exclusive at the moment, ridiculous Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 11:56    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
My PS4 will be delivered between 12:45PM and 1:45PM today! So Much Win

Finally gonna be able to play AC4 Very Happy


11:20 - 12:20 for me.... I am work till 5:00 Crying or Very sad
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Im jelly.. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 12:41    Post subject:
Mines out for delivery, have not been given a time frame but my xbox one was delivered by 12 noon and its the same courier Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 12:51    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 13:37    Post subject:
I wanted too Laughing but I wasn't thinking clearly..
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 13:45    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
dre10g wrote:
http://g3ar.co.za/2013/11/27/xbox-one-has-already-been-hacked/



Don't pull a JackQ Razz as somebody said before, dumping a NAND won't magically hack the xbone. It s still heavily encrypted and thus heavily useless...

On top of that, it s already been posted.


Scratch Head

I am fully aware the differents between dumping something then actuall hacking it as I I'd clerefid before. but it is part of the progress as it was with ps3 and constantly leaked keys . you Can't hack anything if you don't have something to hack for in the first place


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 13:54    Post subject:
Already seeing KZ4 pop up on trading sites for 35 EUR (50% of retail). Used games will be my main source once the good games start coming out, as if I give a fuck about the MP Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 13:55    Post subject:
you can't play MP with used copy? pretty sure you can buy a code for that, or at least you could in last gen console games.
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 14:02    Post subject:
Yeah still works like that AFAIK, but I won't for most games Wink

The few games I'll care about in MP are most likely the ones I'll buy anyway Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 14:04    Post subject:
That s right jackq. But I don't consider this much of a progress, if at all.

Dumping NAND was expected, ps3 one was dumped on day 1. There is no "protection" against that, it s just hardware... I mean Ps5 will have its NAND dumped too day 1, so I guess progress has been done on the ps5 too Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 14:05    Post subject:
Games on ps4 don't use codes. At least current games don't.

Sony dropped online passes. You can play online on 2 nd hand Sony games or EA games, that's for sure.


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 14:09    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
That s right jackq. But I don't consider this much of a progress, if at all.

Dumping NAND was expected, ps3 one was dumped on day 1. There is no "protection" against that, it s just hardware... I mean Ps5 will have its NAND dumped too day 1, so I guess progress has been done on the ps5 too Very Happy

Sarcasm with a pinch of salt
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 14:11    Post subject:
Just a little Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 14:12    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
Games on ps4 don't use codes. At least current games don't.

Sony dropped online passes. You can play online on 2 nd hand Sony games or EA games, that's for sure.

Oh, right. All the better then Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 14:19    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
I mean Ps5 will have its NAND dumped too day , so I guess progress has been done on the ps5 too 1Very Happy

no,because progress includes research and mapping how it works Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 14:36    Post subject:
Well how that works ? Easy you just solder a few wires here and there, pull a trick and voila NAND wrote to a file Laughing

Same trick will work on ps5-6-7-8-xbone2-3 etc.


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 14:45    Post subject:
that's not what I mean,yea it easy to Dump,there is a purpose doing so: Research and searching for possible expliots.


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 15:08    Post subject:
Though the next PS/Xbonetwo will probably be more or less 100% online focused. Especially if it's hacked this soon. The online madness started gearing up in full at the end of last gen, and will go rampant in a little while.
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 15:13    Post subject:
What do you mean "this soon" kenny? Nothing's hacked yet. Dumping the NAND is like taking an encrypted harddrive and dumping the binary data off of it


And my PS4 has arrived \o/
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 15:27    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Already seeing KZ4 pop up on trading sites for 35 EUR (50% of retail). Used games will be my main source once the good games start coming out, as if I give a fuck about the MP Smile


MP lockouts are gone now though, aren't they? Sony has ditched "online passes" as have the majority of other large studios. Buying preowned games actually becomes an option again Smile

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Aaaaaaand that was already said Okay
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