OCZ files for bankruptcy
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 09:17    Post subject: OCZ files for bankruptcy
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 09:19    Post subject:
I have two of their SSD's and a New PSU all still under warranty (intact the PSU is only a week old Surprised )

lets hope they dont fail Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 09:22    Post subject:
Fortunately for me it's the retailer that takes care of warranty Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 09:25    Post subject:
Its the same in the UK, you just have to remind them on occasion as they always try and pass iit off to the manufacturer, and it can be a pain in the arse.



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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 09:32    Post subject:
Only product from them I ever had a Vertex 3. Didn't have any issues, but I believe I lucked out.

OCZ had some great technologies just shit execution.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 09:43    Post subject:
sucks for people who are losing jobs. not sure what else to say, never cared for OCZ products personally. their SSD business was nothing but trouble from day one, looks like they tried but never recovered from that.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 09:51    Post subject:
Which is a shame because the Vector and the technology in it was outstanding.

But that's what they get for cheaping out with the NAND flash and pairing it with a buggy sandforce controller early on.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 09:56    Post subject:
Well I still have a 30 GB Onyx which is doing fine, now just over 3 years old. Got that in my HTPC (it only has that drive) and it still boots and runs as fast as always. Not bad for what at the time was pretty much the cheapest drive and a low-end one at that.

Agility 3 is now 2.5 years old, that's still not showing any signs of degradation either.

Both my 60 GB Vertex 2's are now gone though. The second one gave up after just under 2 years I think it was - controller on it crapped out on me. RMA replacement is a 120 GB Vertex 4 which now sits in my MBP.

My first Vertex 2 gave up a few weeks ago, just a couple of weeks shy of 3 years old. Considering what I've put the damn thing through, I'm quite satisfied with that. It cost me €100 back in 2010 and it's been well worth its money. It has served as one of my system drives ever since then, has gone through a whole bunch of formats, a slew of OSs. Can't complain really.

I just hope its RMA replacement isn't going to be like the last 4 Samsung drives I've had; got a 120 GB Samsung Evo as replacement. I'm still bitter about the four fucking Spinpoint (F1, so fuck you Wink) drives I had failing within 2 months of each other, all less than a year old (one was 2 fucking weeks old), followed by 2 more of friends and family failing.


Let's just hope Toshiba take all of their assets and keep the engineering teams intact, because Barefoot 3 has a lot of potential and we need more players on the market.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 10:46    Post subject:
Well, that sucks Sad
Only thing I've ever owned from them is my CPU cooler

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/8580-ocz-vendetta-2-cpu-cooler-review.html

No complaints here


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 10:54    Post subject:
good
after i got my 2x1tb corrupted data due to OCZ 4 gb platinum shit-ram back the days, never touched ocz ever again
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 12:43    Post subject:
my DDR2 sticks were OCZ, one failed , mailed them to OCZ in the netherlands for replacement ( lifetime warranty ) and got 3 weeks later new set from California.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 13:54    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Well I still have a 30 GB Onyx which is doing fine, now just over 3 years old. Got that in my HTPC (it only has that drive) and it still boots and runs as fast as always. Not bad for what at the time was pretty much the cheapest drive and a low-end one at that.

Agility 3 is now 2.5 years old, that's still not showing any signs of degradation either.

Both my 60 GB Vertex 2's are now gone though. The second one gave up after just under 2 years I think it was - controller on it crapped out on me. RMA replacement is a 120 GB Vertex 4 which now sits in my MBP.

My first Vertex 2 gave up a few weeks ago, just a couple of weeks shy of 3 years old. Considering what I've put the damn thing through, I'm quite satisfied with that. It cost me €100 back in 2010 and it's been well worth its money. It has served as one of my system drives ever since then, has gone through a whole bunch of formats, a slew of OSs. Can't complain really.

I just hope its RMA replacement isn't going to be like the last 4 Samsung drives I've had; got a 120 GB Samsung Evo as replacement. I'm still bitter about the four fucking Spinpoint (F1, so fuck you Wink) drives I had failing within 2 months of each other, all less than a year old (one was 2 fucking weeks old), followed by 2 more of friends and family failing.


Let's just hope Toshiba take all of their assets and keep the engineering teams intact, because Barefoot 3 has a lot of potential and we need more players on the market.


I think a combination of Toshiba NAND + Barefoot 3 will = win

Only thing I don't like is a company as massive as Toshiba just getting more. OCZ was worth supporting even through the tough times just because of how much smaller the company was. Also, their warranty service was always above and beyond other companies IMO.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 13:56    Post subject:
I've only ever had their RAM but still, I appreciate the company and what they did to push SSDs into the mainstream. It's a shame they're folding - I didn't realise business was that bad Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 15:03    Post subject:
I guess it is quite expensive to replace all the shitty ssds that came back, because of their shitty 3rd party sandisk controllers Mad


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 15:08    Post subject:
I think their RAM was great. Owned a couple of sticks from them. OCZ EL Platinum Revision 2 1GB to be exact. Those were the shit back in the day Very Happy Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 15:12    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
I guess it is quite expensive to replace all the shitty ssds that came back, because of their shitty 3rd party sandisk controllers Mad

SandForce you mean Wink
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 16:02    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
I guess it is quite expensive to replace all the shitty ssds that came back, because of their shitty 3rd party sandisk controllers Mad


Woah woah woah. Leave Sandisk out of this. Laughing Sandisk's drives are actually some of the more reliable ones out there, and still hold up performance wise as well. They also do some cool things with the Marvell controller that other companies don't.


And while Sandforce is a big part of the blame - A lot of the blame also falls on OCZ's mistake of throwing shit NAND in their early models.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 18:32    Post subject:
Heh still got a few OCZ SSD's somewhere.. One cool feature is that they all have mini-USB connections. All of them still work.. bought them 2009, 850 SKR each, which i think was really cheap for that kind of performance (3 in RAID0).
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 18:38    Post subject:
Oh wtf.. I should get some vertex 3 ssd's while they are still there Neutral
And what if they go bankrupt and i need a factory repair? Am i fucked then?


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 19:07    Post subject:
It's the shop that's responsible for RMAs in NL saus. Not the manufacturer.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Nov 2013 19:17    Post subject:
Not after the 2 initial years, the 3rd is OCZ themselves.

For the V4 they even give out 5 years..



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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Nov 2013 23:53    Post subject:
Lol, before this news erupted most people were awed by the performance and the issues with the V3 having issues with firmware was forgotten once it was fixed.

Now when they've bankrupted it's a huge hate flood.

I've never had any issues with the V2 90E and the V4 120GB. Never had issues with the OCZ RAM I had a few years ago either (although I use G.Skill now).

Pity, they did push the rest of the competitors into gear by pushing the performance envelope. Unfortunately they overstretched themselves by buying Indilinx (which probably created a big hole in their corporate bank account) and spread their focus over a large range of products while the competitors caught up and kept their focus on the important segments of the market.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Nov 2013 00:35    Post subject:
Well a lot of the hate is deserved. They had the highest failure rate of any SSD manufacturer. The performance on the early models came at that cost.

Still, I think they were a pioneering company.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Nov 2013 03:11    Post subject:
We're talking failure rates of something like 3-3.5% (on the Vertex Agility-series, their budget series which DID use cheaper NAND's), yet the return numbers are still very low compared to normal static HD's:

. . . .

I think it's much ado about nothing.

A lot of drive failures were software bugs and not hardware issues, something that was fixed with updated firmware (although it took OCZ a while to get Sandforce to find the particular bugs that caused the V3's with early firmwares to fail). In other words, it wasn't the hardware that failed, it was basically the custom made Sandf(a)rce firmware that were different for each manufacturer that lay behind esp. the early problems with the fastest SSD at the time, the Vertex 3. But that was fixed.

Failure rates had nothing to do with this bankruptcy anyway, it was/is mostly a major lack of access to NAND-silicon which meant they couldn't ship and shift enough drives to get to their books into the black.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Nov 2013 03:56    Post subject:
Yeah, OCZ had shit V3's Laughing

So all 8 that i have bought for me and clients, not a single one failed.
And like i showed times and times over, i use my SSD excessively daily, prolly more than anyone one this forum, yet it's still alive and kicking Wink (and yes, i'm still on rather old firmware for it)


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Nov 2013 04:03    Post subject:
Upps, sorry, my bad, of course sandforce Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Nov 2013 09:48    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Yeah, OCZ had shit V3's Laughing

So all 8 that i have bought for me and clients, not a single one failed.
And like i showed times and times over, i use my SSD excessively daily, prolly more than anyone one this forum, yet it's still alive and kicking Wink (and yes, i'm still on rather old firmware for it)


I had two that were fine as well.

Doesn't change the fact that I've seen people with 30 drives have all 30 fail within a year where crucial drives were just fine.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 11:07    Post subject:
And it's official, Toshiba are buying OCZ. All the technical and product divisions will stay, they're covering all of OCZ's immediate debts so for us consumers, nothing changes right now.

The price Toshiba have to pay? 35 million USD.

That is a fucking bargain.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 11:44    Post subject:
I'd say so considering the technology and service centers they are picking up.

Oh well. Honestly it will be impressive to see arguably the best controller on the market paired with top quality Toshiba NAND flash.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 11:54    Post subject:
Well it's going to allow Toshiba to go up against Samsung properly, certainly should be interesting. Let the price wars begin Very Happy
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