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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 22:55    Post subject:
i pre-ordered PS4 but eventually will get Xbone as well. but unlike last gen, this time I'll use Sony's console for multiplatforms and exclusives, and MS's console only for exclusives. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 23:23    Post subject:
its been confirmed that most boner exclusives are only console exclusives but are sitll coming out to pc, like titanfall for example.
so if you have a good rig, then exclusivity-wise it only makes sense to get a ps4.
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 23:37    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
its been confirmed that most boner exclusives are only console exclusives but are sitll coming out to pc, like titanfall for example.
so if you have a good rig, then exclusivity-wise it only makes sense to get a ps4.


True, and considering the Xbone will cost damn near $600, not even including games, you might as well build a PC for that price. $499+ Tax 540.00+ Xbox Live $59.99 + a few games $59.99 add all that up and you can build a great PC for gaming instead.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 00:36    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
Now this time, you get both consoles at the same time

In some parts of the world Razz

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Only thing that could be silly is me getting a PS4 at launch, since it has a weak line up... but oh well, I know it will never be dusty for too long.

That's the reason I ordered mine. I know it won't take long for the good stuff to come out and until then, I'm sure things like Resogun and Knack will keep me entertained. KZ can go fuck itself, the previous ones were boring as hell and this one looks no different..well, graphically it does but...yeah Laughing

KillerCrocker wrote:
I take killzone and resogun over ryse and forza, tho ryse might actualll be good. Gameplay is not qte only, like some people really wanted it to look like this. It looks like normal god of war esque game. Graphics seem really nice.

I suggest you take a look at the longer videos mate. The gameplay *is* that bad. They try to do this melee-only game (like Batman), but their combat system is nowhere near as smooth as Rocksteady's. And I'm sorry, but that is the benchmark for melee systems now Very Happy

And visually it really is not that impressive. Batman looks way, way better.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 00:40    Post subject:
I like the visuals. hate the flashing enemies tho and 900p.

But what games have good 3rd person melee? (not defending ryse$)


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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 00:43    Post subject:
another thing about ryse, while i dont know how long the total game is, one guy casually finished half the chapters in 90 minutes.
i like the gfx but the gameplay is very lacking, the animations are just horrible.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 00:44    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Batman looks way, way better.
Ill have to do a rgb#000 and say; No.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 02:13    Post subject:
Yes but how will you play Halo 5 and Gears of Steroids 4? Sad


"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.

Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 03:31    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
But what games have good 3rd person melee? (not defending ryse$)


Sleeping Dogs.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 03:37    Post subject:
if someone of YOU wanted to buy a ps4 but its not convinced here a 9h stream from Giant Bomb
http://www.twitch.tv/giantbomb/b/479994010

they SHOW ALL games available now on ps4 , all function , all things ps4 can do and more


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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 03:50    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
if someone of YOU wanted to buy a ps4 but its not convinced here a 9h stream from Giant Bomb
http://www.twitch.tv/giantbomb/b/479994010

they SHOW ALL games available now on ps4 , all function , all things ps4 can do and more


Downloading as a 567mb video!

Not sure if I have 8 hours 22 minutes to spare but hey ho Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 09:36    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Werelds wrote:
Batman looks way, way better.
Ill have to do a rgb#000 and say; No.

Don't get me wrong, it's not ugly in the technical sense for the most part - it is CryEngine after all. There's some hideous textures and terrible faux-DoF going on, but given what the game is, that doesn't matter that much. The rest though, given how tiny the set pieces are, there's not just technical stupidity but just insanely boring design. Marius himself is properly modeled, textured and animated, but not all of his enemies are. There's just a lot of in-continuity and for a game like this, that is just terrible.

Now, as for Batman, I'm talking about the PC version, which even the Xbox One could handle close to maxed out at 1080p. Obviously not comparing with the PS360 (nor do I even know what it looks like on those). MSAA, high resolution textures all around, proper DoF. And obviously it's not confined to tiny spaces. They give the impression of larger spaces in Ryse, but really, it's a corridor game.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 09:50    Post subject:
Ryse looks better then Batman even on PC,IMO as well.
Ryse isn't out yet and there is no Real 2 GB HQ video like Killzone4 had you can't see the game as good just from youtube. Even if "1080p"


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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 14:23    Post subject:
Shawn_Hunter wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
But what games have good 3rd person melee? (not defending ryse$)


Sleeping Dogs.

right Me Gusta
Now I feel bad for not thinking about sleepy dogs


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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 14:25    Post subject:
Sleeping Dogs was, IS, magnificent and if you want another good 3rd person brawler; Yakuza. Same sort of thing as Sleeping Dogs only more arcade'y - including Streets of Rage style weapons Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 14:31    Post subject:
yakuza is basically the new shenmue, same devs, more freedom, but combat not quite as good as shenmue.
i still hope shenmue 3 is one of these ps4 mystery games.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 14:34    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
yakuza is basically the new shenmue, same devs, more freedom, but combat not quite as good as shenmue.
i still hope shenmue 3 is one of these ps4 mystery games.


This! It really is the new Shenmue just, as you say, not as good. It's a great series though! That's one of the things I loved about Sleeping Dogs, it was like a cross between Yakuza and Shenmue, and I'd love a sequel Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 14:45    Post subject:
Sleeping Dogs was great. It had its issues and the combat system wasn't quite as good as Rocksteady's, but close enough. I certainly found it a pleasant surprise, much like a certain other game a year earlier Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 14:48    Post subject:
wasn't as good? it depends.

For me, batman fighting system doesnt feel like I am doing much.. it feels mechanical. In SD it somehow felt more like fighting


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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 15:04    Post subject:
I'm going to have to agree with KC on this, Batman's combat may have been fluid.. but that was all it was. It was very mechanical and, dare I say, dull. Attack, swoop to next enemy, attack, swoop, attack, swoop. In SD it was more interactive with combos, environment interaction and more style, more dynamic - even if was less fluid than Batman.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 15:13    Post subject:
It's not the fluidity really (would feel a little silly to be such a beast in SD). It's the lack of variation; while there are some environmental things you can do, besides that it's pretty limited. I can't agree with mechanical in Batman either, not if you use gadgets and most certainly not with some of the new enemies in AO - the enforcers and martial artists make it very interesting Very Happy

Don't get me wrong, it's very good and I enjoyed it a lot, but it just lacks something for me. If they expand on it in the next one it's all good though Smile

Let me put it this way: where Batman should be this beast that's near unbeatable, in Sleeping Dogs I'd expect more movement and environmental stuff. More ways to evade, running up walls, that kind of thing. It needs more Jackie Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 15:17    Post subject:
Well I haven't played AO so yeah, I can't speak for that - but in AA and AC it was just literally bouncing from one enemy to another, pressing counter when the exclamation mark appeared, it was very... well for lack of a better word, mechanical.

Werelds wrote:
Let me put it this way: where Batman should be this beast that's near unbeatable, in Sleeping Dogs I'd expect more movement and environmental stuff. More ways to evade, running up walls, that kind of thing. It needs more Jackie Wink


This I do agree with though Smile The physical combat was great but it could definitely be improved with more environmental interactions that don't just revolve around grabbing an enemy and slamming them into stuff, heh.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 16:34    Post subject:
Xbone reviews are up,so far seems to be better then PS4 launch games Whistle me elmo

of course,both consoles games will be improved in time.


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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 16:38    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
I like the visuals. hate the flashing enemies tho and 900p.

But what games have good 3rd person melee? (not defending ryse$)


devil may cry 3 and bayonetta, unbeatable.
batman in comparison feels like automated derp combat.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 16:50    Post subject:
JackQ wrote:
Xbone reviews are up,so far seems to be better then PS4 launch games Whistle me elmo

of course,both consoles games will be improved in time.

i've only seen DR3 and KI get between 7-8, remaining less known exclusives got 5-7. no ryse or forza5 reviews, i guess they are still under embargo?
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Nov 2013 17:17    Post subject:
wow.. gears of war1 came out 7 years ago and it still looks fantastic. This gen was very long but it was so fast for me.

anyway - new gow might be the only reason for me to consider xbox (I hope not tho)


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For some reason, this just popped in my head:

con·sole1
kənˈsōl/
verb
1. comfort (someone) at a time of grief or disappointment.
"she tried to console him but he pushed her gently away"
synonyms: comfort, solace, sympathize with, commiserate with, show compassion for

Seeing as I am sort of nonplussed with the PS4 so far (they had better add media streaming capabilities back in or else I'll write an extremely strongly-worded letter to them and get nothing in return), this definition seems to be quite apropos...


Hobo Zombie: TRAAAAAAAIIIINNNNNNSSSSSS
Woman Zombie: COMPLAAAAAAAIIIIIIINNNNNSSSSS
Englishmen Zombie: REFRAAAAAAAAAIIIIIINNNNNSSSSS
Thanks for the idea Lutz!
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