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Skip it now, get it later. Like in a year or something 
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 12:23 Post subject: |
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4 weapons, 4 shields, 4 engines, 4 ships you can build ...
this indeed is x4. Everything times 4.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 12:29 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Wow, I went from "I'll certainly buy this" to "hm maybe I should just skip this" in three days :/ |
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 13:09 Post subject: |
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| Bob Barnsen wrote: | | Mister_s wrote: | | Wow, I went from "I'll certainly buy this" to "hm maybe I should just skip this" in three days :/ |
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| |IcedFreon| wrote: | | lol you're done wih the game? already ??????? jesus. ppl havent even finished downloading it yet |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 13:14 Post subject: |
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ah my bad, found another ship dealer and he allows you to build around 11 different ships (plus the 4 before, that's 15 then).
But i can't repair my damn ships. Engineer on board doesn't seem to do anything and ship dealer isn't giving me the option to upgrade or repair my ships anymore (i know it was there before, i repaired a ship there and then sold it).
Ship is in the same sector and everything. But with this game, i'm not sure if i missed something or if it is simply broken lol.
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BonerUK
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 13:18 Post subject: |
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tried so much to enjoy the game after loving the other X games but i cant way to much shit i just dont like or understand why they put in dont think even a major patch could save this such a shame
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 13:22 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Wow, I went from "I'll certainly buy this" to "hm maybe I should just skip this" in three days :/ |
I went from "I shouldn't have bought this I don't have the time to devote to it" to "I shouldn't have bought this" in 59 minutes
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 13:33 Post subject: |
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how to cancel trade orders ...
edit the save file ...
yeah .. seriously... no kidding ...
http://steamcommunity.com/app/2870/discussions/0/648811852354771955/
didn't help me tho. My 2 ships have "too many trade orders" , yet none of them is listed in the save game (guess we could call them ghost orders). Result, both ships don't move and can't be sold, repaired or modified.
Awesome.
edit : ok, found the shopping list entries. Seems as 3 orders is "too much" lol.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 15:08 Post subject: |
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did they released any patch so far?
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 15:36 Post subject: |
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| lolozaur wrote: | | did they released any patch so far? |
They released two patches so far afaik.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 15:43 Post subject: |
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Yes, game is currently at 1.12. (X.Rebirth.v1.12.Hotfix.Update-BAT)
They've fixed a crash issue related to sound settings. And I think some stuff with the german audio files (that where partly missing or something?) but other then that nothing interesting yet. There is no changelog as far as I know.
They are planning quite bit though and they want to "aggressively tackle" the performance problems among other things:
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=349253
It sort of looks like they tested this game on nothing newer then ~5 year old hardware and just expected it to run better on higher end stuff and thus overlooking severe bottlenecks in the code.
It's not just a simple CPU bottleneck either IMHO, since I get the exact same fps with my 2770k running at stock and at 4.9GHz.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 15:44 Post subject: |
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X.Rebirth.v1.12.Hotfix.Update-BAT
EDIT: Sniped!
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 15:45 Post subject: |
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honestly, even at 30 fps the game feels smooth. It doesn't stutter or anything.
That being said, i wonder how moddable this game is.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 15:48 Post subject: |
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There are a couple of mods already.
One that shuts up the "shut up betty". Another that changes the color of highways (lol). And a few more.
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewforum.php?f=129
But I look forward to seeing just how far it can be taken.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 15:49 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 16:26 Post subject: |
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just curious, why you guys think this pile of crap will be fixed in 1 year ? after all, they spend 7 years to get to this level of shitness.
i can live with bugs. i canot live with flawed designs.
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zmed
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 16:38 Post subject: |
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You got the jist of it. Bugs can be fixed. Base design concepts cannot be fixed. The biggest problem of the game is the horrible UI and overcomplicated ways of getting things done (having to walk up to each officer to recruit, having to fly to each trade outlet to queue up freighter commands individually, etc, etc).
These are unfixable, the best they would be able to do is implement workarounds, but not getting rid of them completely.
Best we can hope for that this was a colossal wakeup call for them and in the next game they'd try to bring back the old system, refine that and make it work with the new things that actually turned out good.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 16:45 Post subject: |
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| zmed wrote: |
Best we can hope for that this was a colossal wakeup call for them and in the next game they'd try to bring back the old system, refine that and make it work with the new things that actually turned out good. |
If this game made good money, then they probably don't care that much.
EA is doing it for many years and they seem to be happy with it.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 17:07 Post subject: |
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| frogster wrote: | just curious, why you guys think this pile of crap will be fixed in 1 year ? after all, they spend 7 years to get to this level of shitness.
i can live with bugs. i canot live with flawed designs. |
Because previous X games where all problematic at launch but I certainly don't think this game will ever be "fixed".
The game is just too much of a departure from the rest of the series and in all the previous ones even if there where huge problems you could always see signs of greatness and it was eventually fixed, more or less.
Performance is going to improve. Perhaps drastically.
The maps will be better (which isn't saying much since they are currently pretty useless.).
There will hopefully be a mod that removes the cockpit. Since it takes up 1/3 of the screen or so.
Egosoft will keep working on this for quite a while but most likely not as long as the other ones.
But the fundamental flaws? The (sort of) complete departure from the rest of the series?
Highly doubtful... this game is what this games is. Bernd can't keep himself from stating again and again that this is not X4 and he never intended it to be. He has already said that he wants to/would love to see X on "next-gen" consoles and that they already had X2 and X3 running on xbox.
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If this game made good money, then they probably don't care that much.
EA is doing it for many years and they seem to be happy with it. |
They (well, Bernd) have already declared the game a huge success.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 17:18 Post subject: |
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Can't really blame them for wanting more cash.
Still, it's sad to see the X series effectively die off. While I wouldn't call any of the games great, they had enormous potential and definitely a unique style and scope which we probably won't see again for many years.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 17:42 Post subject: |
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why would i want to play a spacegame where i have to get out of my ship to go loot spaceships one container at a time haha, id expect to have pirate shipmates that could loot all and be done with that shit rofl
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 17:49 Post subject: |
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| Raap wrote: | Can't really blame them for wanting more cash.
Still, it's sad to see the X series effectively die off. While I wouldn't call any of the games great, they had enormous potential and definitely a unique style and scope which we probably won't see again for many years. |
Having Elite 4 and Star Citizen announced, I disagree there.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 17:58 Post subject: |
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The 1.20 patch that fixes the issues would be a $15 DLC if this was EA.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 18:29 Post subject: |
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| mvp wrote: | | Raap wrote: | Can't really blame them for wanting more cash.
Still, it's sad to see the X series effectively die off. While I wouldn't call any of the games great, they had enormous potential and definitely a unique style and scope which we probably won't see again for many years. |
Having Elite 4 and Star Citizen announced, I disagree there. |
THose two games can be just as bad as this game.
At least i'm not so stupid as to preorder those games ( I hope)
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| Ghworg wrote: |
If this game made good money, then they probably don't care that much.
EA is doing it for many years and they seem to be happy with it. |
They (well, Bernd) have already declared the game a huge success. |
Even after all the negativity?
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 18:34 Post subject: |
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He hasn't really commented on the changes that make this a joke compared to previous games in the series, besides saying that all the things they removed where completely useless stuff and that the a.i. now does all of that automatically (it doesn't) and other design decisions that make no sense whatsoever to anyone who has played an X game before, which basically is all the real negativity besides bugs.
It's a success because it made enough money thanks to the trailers and stepped up marketing efforts which unfortunately now seems to have
been the only goal.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 18:52 Post subject: |
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i remember a whole video dedicated to ai pathfinding ...
and oh shocker, it's abysmal in the actual game. Escort missions are a horror, because the ship usually tries to fly through an entire station. And your own ships aren't much better, taking half an hour to dock somewhere to trade.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 19:14 Post subject: |
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that's the trading software no ?
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 19:21 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | That being said, i wonder how moddable this game is. |
They hope to release mod tools soon, but they haven't had time to make a manual (apparently the tools are too complex) and they don't know when it'll happen.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Nov 2013 19:22 Post subject: |
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@Sin317
Yes it is, i wish you could use it as your communications hub, board computer, whatever you wanna call it to manage the important stuff directly from your cockpit.
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