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We would still be perfectly fine with xp and dx9... just look at stalker for example
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 13:54 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 14:47 Post subject: |
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yeah seriously stalker isn't exactly the best example.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 14:56 Post subject: |
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| Amadeus wrote: | | yeah seriously stalker isn't exactly the best example. |
Witcher 2 then
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 15:02 Post subject: |
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| Oddmaker wrote: | | Just use a virtual install of XP or what ever that's what I do. |
this.
I'm not a demanding user but I'm a gamer and a programmer. Apart from two things that drive me insane(i've got used to no start button)
- Slow desktop loading.. WHY?!
- Manager takes ages to launch... WHY?!! x200
win8 is very solid and I have no idea what people are bitching about. I even forgot that there's such thing as metro.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 15:28 Post subject: |
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| pillermann wrote: | | Amadeus wrote: | | yeah seriously stalker isn't exactly the best example. |
Witcher 2 then |
Yep 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 15:31 Post subject: |
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| bloodian wrote: |
win8 is very solid and I have no idea what people are bitching about. I even forgot that there's such thing as metro. |
Maybe because of :
| consolitis wrote: | | Windows 8/8.1 has various compatibility issues with older games etc so I'm staying away as long as Win7 does the job. |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 15:35 Post subject: |
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I wonder how much of a hit a XP VM would have on my old ass system... currently playing gothic and I'm seriously thinking about getting an XP VM for it.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 17:18 Post subject: |
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^ 3D acceleration in VM environments is just  AFAIK.
| Oddmaker wrote: | | Just use a virtual install of XP or what ever that's what I do. |
I am talking about games that run without any issues in Win7 x64, XP VM would certainly be worse than a native Win7 x64 install.
Stuff like this:
- "Game is capped to 30fps when using Windows 8 (we have no idea why)." http://www.play-old-pc-games.com/2012/05/23/no-one-lives-forever/
- Or the Windows 8.1 mouse issues described already (and here is a specific example http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3141977 )
- Or some cracks not working under Windows 8.
etc
They are not huge issues, sure, but the benefits or rather one single benefit "Battlefield 4 runs faster" do not outweigh them. Not for me and not yet anyway.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 17:27 Post subject: |
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Win8 + Start8 = juuust fine. It's win7 with all the nice explorer/task manager and backend tweaks.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 17:40 Post subject: |
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| Naish wrote: | | Win8 + Start8 = juuust fine. It's win7 with all the nice explorer/task manager and backend tweaks. |
But
| Quote: | | Windows 8/8.1 has various compatibility issues with older games etc so I'm staying away as long as Win7 does the job. |
It's all fine and nice but The Witcher says otherwise. I had to go back to Win7 just to play it. I'm sure there are more games that are completely incompatible with Win8. |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 19:09 Post subject: |
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Oh noes, stupid developers do shoddy coding -> blame the OS. Vista suxx0rz, guyz, for realz.
| Silent_Lurker wrote: | | Win8 is the best OS for Facebooking, Tweeting, Derping ... but absolutely not for serious gaming. |
And XP is faster for gaming than Windows 7 because it doesn't take 4MB of VRAM for AERO. 
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 19:57 Post subject: |
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Actually, what took the 4MB VRAM was the desktop window manager, which rendered UI into the video memory for faster rendering. Windows 7's AERO did not require more memory, it required little GPU power to render, and only when the desktop was visible.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 20:26 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Actually, what took the 4MB VRAM was the desktop window manager, which rendered UI into the video memory for faster rendering. Windows 7's AERO did not require more memory, it required little GPU power to render, and only when the desktop was visible. |
Madness, i have bad news for 4MB Matrox card owners...
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 20:33 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 20:46 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | Oh noes, stupid developers do shoddy coding -> blame the OS. Vista suxx0rz, guyz, for realz.
| Silent_Lurker wrote: | | Win8 is the best OS for Facebooking, Tweeting, Derping ... but absolutely not for serious gaming. |
And XP is faster for gaming than Windows 7 because it doesn't take 4MB of VRAM for AERO. |
Yep, blame developers for making games incompatible with future OSes. Seems legit. 
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 21:03 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | - Or some cracks not working under Windows 8. |
It is new MS' anti-crack protection. They can detect cracks on the fly! And prevent you from running them!
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Nov 2013 00:33 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | Neon wrote: | | consolitis wrote: | | Windows 8/8.1 has various compatibility issues with older games etc so I'm staying away as long as Win7 does the job. |
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Add me to the crew of the Windows 7 aficionados who couldn't care less about PR ding dongs and fake features created exclusively to attract the nextgen people.
No DX11.2? Big deal, I can live just fine without invisible advanced tessellation, HBAOplusplus^2, bokeh 2.0 and motion bloom. As a matter of fact, I would disable these anyway even if my OS supported them
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Nov 2013 00:41 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: | | motion bloom |
KillerCrocker is already testing Windows 9 alpha milestone builds.  |
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Nov 2013 01:46 Post subject: |
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i choose win8 because it was cheapo than win7...
cheapest win7 i was over the years was home premium for like 70usd
got win 8 pro for15 bucks, digital download directly from microsoft. And have seen promos of the boxed version for 20-40 usd.
it's very similar to win7, it has pros and cons, but i can live with them.
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Nov 2013 13:08 Post subject: |
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| Silent_Lurker wrote: | http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-gaming/mouse-lag-in-video-games-since-upgrading-to/85c28c06-b13c-43be-8282-88528c42e400
So Win8 is dah best for gaming, right ? 
I just remember a MS guy who said "We also aimed Win8 at video games players, it is more powerful, consume less memory and offer the best experience for gamerz out there."
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Fixed: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Nov 2013 14:26 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Silent_Lurker wrote: | http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-gaming/mouse-lag-in-video-games-since-upgrading-to/85c28c06-b13c-43be-8282-88528c42e400
So Win8 is dah best for gaming, right ?
I just remember a MS guy who said "We also aimed Win8 at video games players, it is more powerful, consume less memory and offer the best experience for gamerz out there."
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Fixed: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279 |
Thanks, but ...
| Quote: | This update resolves this issue in the following games:
Call of Duty: Black Ops
Call of Duty: Black Ops - Multiplayer
Call of Duty: Black Ops II
Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Multiplayer
Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Zombies
Call of Duty: Ghosts - Multiplayer
Call of Duty: MW2
Call of Duty: MW2 - Multiplayer
Call of Duty: MW3
Call of Duty: MW3 - Multiplayer
Call of Duty: MW
Call of Duty: MW - Multiplayer
Counter Strike: Global Offensive
Counter Strike: Source
Deus Ex : Human Revolution
Deus Ex : Human Revolution Director's Cut
Hitman Absolution
Hitman Sniper Challenge
Half Life 2
Metro 2033
Portal
Tomb Raider |
Ok, and then :
| Quote: | How to extend the update to other games
Important Follow the steps in this section carefully. Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly. Before you modify it, back up the registry for restoration in case problems occur.
The update also includes an extension mechanism to resolve this issue in additional games. If you encounter this issue in games that are not listed in the "Games that the update applies to" section, follow these steps to extend the update coverage:
Click Start, type regedit.exe in the Start Search box, and then press Enter.
Click Yes if the User Account Control dialog box is displayed.
Browse to the following folder:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers
Note If the Layers key does not exist, right-click AppCompatFlags, click New, click Key, and then type Layers to create the key.
Create a new registry entry for the game. To do this, right-click Layers, click New, click String Value, type the full path of the game’s executable file in the box, and then press Enter.
Right-click the value, and then click Modify. In the Value data field, type NoDTToDITMouseBatch, and then press Enter.
Click OK to confirm the change. |
Are you kidding me ?!!?
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Nov 2013 14:28 Post subject: |
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Explain.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Nov 2013 14:29 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Silent_Lurker wrote: | http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-gaming/mouse-lag-in-video-games-since-upgrading-to/85c28c06-b13c-43be-8282-88528c42e400
So Win8 is dah best for gaming, right ?
I just remember a MS guy who said "We also aimed Win8 at video games players, it is more powerful, consume less memory and offer the best experience for gamerz out there."
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Fixed: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279 |
Nope
Fixed for a very, *very* small amount of games.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Nov 2013 14:37 Post subject: |
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"How to extend the update to other games"
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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