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MAD_MAX333
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 Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2013 00:06 Post subject: Useless group members |
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I'm sure we have all dealt with someone like this before... they join your group, say nothing, contribute nothing, and just tag along... and if they DO anything it's probably useless and you have to discard it.
so we had a useless guy from our last class, once a new class started and we got a project (worth 40 percent of our mark) we sort of stuck to the old group and he sort of just tagged along... and we felt too bad to say hey we don't want u in this new group please get out...
so now we are a man extra... so I went to the teacher hoping she would force him out.... but she is like OK its fine but just know that now I'm gonna be expecting an even better project from you guys since you have 7 people in your group instead of 6....
FUCK THIS SHIT... this was already hard because it was almost like working with one less member (since he is useless) but now we have to deal with higher standards and expectations too.... we are fucked now.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2013 00:45 Post subject: |
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fisk
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2013 03:39 Post subject: |
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This happens every. single. time. 
If there's a group project with several people involved, there's always The useless guy, too.
The one who doesn't ask questions, always nods, takes no initiative whatsoever, does something useful only when he's somewhat forced to with the "fine, if you insist.." attitude and activates the intraceable_mode as soon as some major problems emerge. It's just so typical xD
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2013 04:53 Post subject: |
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Guilty as charged. Though it was because i absolutely HATED doing group projects.
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zipfero
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2013 05:33 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Guilty as charged. Though it was because i absolutely HATED doing group projects. |
Its alright then
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2013 07:22 Post subject: |
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Lol last time people took advantage of me in a group, it was a 4 man group, noone did anything and everyone disappeared. So i did the work alone, at the day of the presentation, everyone's like
"Sooo what do we dooo, man did someone do something?"
Me: Nop, i just did my part
"What do you mean"
Me: My part, what i had to do, that.
Presentation time, Me: "Teacher, my group couldnt do anything, we had problems communicating so i could only do my part, i can share that bit if i may"
What was my part? the whole work, i explained everything alone perfectly  
Oh wait! Then after the grades got published the MOTHER of one of the guys went in to argue with the teacher, i got pulled into the mess, THEY DID THEIR WORK!, BLABLA! IN the end i was asked what happened and i said "Well ur son didnt do anything, he didnt do any work" she asked him and he just pulled his face down because he didnt do shit and her mother was astonished when she realized what had happened. 
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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2013 08:00 Post subject: |
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Group projects are really fucking stupid. Especially in -college-. They really don't teach you anything expect that people are assholes, just like in real life. Perhaps it's only sensible thing I learned from it.
Most of the professors don't really care who is your group, who ends up doing the work, etc. As long as stuff gets done.
But, if you must, just bullshit your way through it. That's what We did with our senior project. We were practically done within 2-3 months with 1-year deadline.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2013 10:57 Post subject: |
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If it was me I would tell him he has one more chance to pull his weight if not then he is out. Try and find something he is good at and suggest he carries out that task. I assume he is on the same career path as yourself? Well if so he must be good at something to get as far as he has.
You have to tell him, it's for his own good, if he is as you say he is then he has gone through his entire life riding on the back of others work and achievements. People like him always 'get on' they get management posts and are bloody useless at it.
Just be diplomatic and say "the group feels you are not contributing as much as you could, and there is a possibility all our grades will suffer because of this" that way the oness is on the group not just yourself and he should feel guilty that he is letting you all down.
If not then insist he is moved on.
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M4trix
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2013 11:35 Post subject: |
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im usually the sneaky bastard who avoids doing extra, but this time they weighed on my conscience and I agreed to take an extra part to talk about during a presentation since one of us cant be there to do her own part. fuck this shit :'(
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2013 12:15 Post subject: |
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I'm the guy that calls you and curses at you on the phone for being a lazy fuck, university projects are neigh-impossible to do alone and my future is on the line. I have no problem calling people out on their shit and it usually works since they either leave the group or do their part. I don't mind doing extra if you try your best, I mean last time we had a guy who was dyslexic so I checked all his work on spelling and grammar.
tldr: Be an asshole for your own sake and either dump his ass or put him into your personal work camp.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2013 13:10 Post subject: |
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Shouldn't a cop know how to deal with such situations?
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2013 13:34 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Shouldn't a cop know how to deal with such situations? |
I don't see how shooting that guy would be of any help 
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2013 13:40 Post subject: |
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A good cop always tazers first, so he has all the time for the final shot.
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Oct 2013 15:26 Post subject: |
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Entire class are cops,,, this guy though is a border services guy (one of only 4 non cop people in a class of 75)...
And conflict management at work is easy, in my personal life I'm muh more lenient and because it's a group work I don't feel I can take a unilateral action against a person. Sigh I think what I'll do is draw up very direct guidelines of who is doing what, also I'm drawing up a project contract that I'll send to everyone to explain the expectations and ramifications of ignoring it.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Oct 2013 00:46 Post subject: |
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| Ragedoctor wrote: | I'm the guy that calls you and curses at you on the phone for being a lazy fuck, university projects are neigh-impossible to do alone and my future is on the line. I have no problem calling people out on their shit and it usually works since they either leave the group or do their part. I don't mind doing extra if you try your best, I mean last time we had a guy who was dyslexic so I checked all his work on spelling and grammar.
tldr: Be an asshole for your own sake and either dump his ass or put him into your personal work camp. |
I want you in all my future groups!!  |
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