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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Oct 2013 09:20    Post subject:
How do you read that as "every trailer says the story is a continuation"? Neutral Saying "I've been away" is just setting up character, it's not saying "this is a sequel" and since it has been confirmed by the developers multiple times that it's NOT a sequel, then yeah.. it's not a sequel. It's a reboot.
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Oct 2013 11:42    Post subject:
ive only showd you one trailer, a more recent one, i know i heard more back when it was anounced.

but yes, "i ve been away" goes two ways, background for a character as you say or the time between the last game and this, city changed etc.


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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Oct 2013 13:23    Post subject:
Dude, why are you even still arguing about this, the developers said it was a reboot in an interview.



sabin1981 wrote:
StEFaN7 wrote:
then why in every trailer they says the story is like a continuation from the previously titles ?


Since you didn't answer me with what trailer you heard this from (and I've certainly not heard this in any trailer I've seen) here's something direct from the developers in the interview posted by Neona;

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/10/10/thief-interview/

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Will we hear a “taffer” somewhere?

SG: [laughs] I’ve said in other interviews that our Thief has a new story, a new Garrett, and so on. The old Thief games have that great history and legacy, but the more you’ll play our game, the more you’ll hear words you’ve never heard before. We have a sort of brand new lexicon for the game, as it were. As for taffer, you may or may not hear it. Maybe it exists in this world and maybe not. There’s an entirely new vocabulary at work.


and;

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2013/apr/15/thief-preview-part-one

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"It's 'Thief' because we want to restart it, to reinvent it," says Stéphane Roy, producer on the game. "We want it to be part of the future, the next generation, and not part of the past. It's not a sequel. It's something new."
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Oct 2013 13:25    Post subject:
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since it has been confirmed by the developers multiple times that it's NOT a sequel

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since it has been confirmed by the developers multiple times that it's NOT a sequel

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since it has been confirmed by the developers multiple times that it's NOT a sequel

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since it has been confirmed by the developers multiple times that it's NOT a sequel


I hope this is obvious enough. You never know :3
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Oct 2013 15:56    Post subject:
actually its not that obvious


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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Oct 2013 16:17    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Oct 2013 17:21    Post subject:


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Oct 2013 18:06    Post subject:
So, then the game can be easily also called Pickapocket in the Darkness Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Oct 2013 18:21    Post subject:
we haev new garrut! lol wut

/maximize use of post effects
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 22:53    Post subject:
XP system removed from Thief


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So, guys, what is the deal with XP in Thief?


Daniel: I am happy to announce we no longer have an XP system in Thief.

Nic: Yeah, it is not there anymore.


Why was it removed?

Nic: At first, we wanted to outline the progression of the player with XP, but it was reducing our motivation to steal. The main goal of a thief should be to gain loot. Garrett is already the Master Thief, so we saw no need to have XP as a core mechanic.

Daniel: We wanted to put emphasis on stealing things, and put the rewards on the stealing aspect. We want to allow the player to decide the "how to" – we shouldn't judge how the player wants to achieve their goal, only reward them for achieving it.



The reaction from fans to the "Headshot XP" pop-up in the E3 gameplay demo was fairly negative. Did that have an impact on the decision to remove it from the game?


Daniel: Fans might be surprised how often the devs go to the forum to see how things are perceived in the "real world". This feedback is extremely valuable to us, so as you can imagine, the consistent reaction to the XP system was something that indicated we needed to revisit some design decisions.
Nic: It is more a design decision to add to our economy system and entice the player to steal more. But yes, the E3 reaction was right, rewarding killing like that was wrong for a Master Thief.



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Eidos Montreal: pls hardcore fans buy our game pls pls pls
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 22:56    Post subject:
10000000000000% I am pirating this trash, and only just to say fuck you to ubi
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 22:58    Post subject:
Uhhhhh... ubilol sure has it's issues but they aren't the ones encouraging these eidos devs to make this dherpf game Laughing






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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 22:59    Post subject:
Boneleech wrote:
10000000000000% I am pirating this trash, and only just to say fuck you to ubi


lol wut
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 23:02    Post subject:
I wasn't expecting this... it's a start. Laughing

Now remove the focus mode too, as well as all the cinematic parts and QTEs, implement the jump button and maybe I can get hyped again. Troll Dad
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 23:03    Post subject:
That's step one. Remove that garbage system. Here are steps 2 through 5;

2. Bring back Stephen Russell, fuck off this new guy - nobody cares about him, it's a Thief game goddamn it, Stephen Russell is Garret - and stop the "we're doing mo-cap so we need the movement actor to be the voice actor" silliness, you can mo-cap face and body separately.
3. Enable jump. I'm serious. I don't want L2 to be my auto-drive button, I want to jump where I want to and when I want to.. and if this means I jump to my death, so be it!
4. Remove "Focus" mode. It's Thief, not Assassin's Creed. If Garret can't knock someone out with a blackjack then that's that.
5. Bring back Hammerites and Pagans, you taffers!

~edit~

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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 23:31    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
Boneleech wrote:
10000000000000% I am pirating this trash, and only just to say fuck you to ubi


lol wut


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 23:33    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
That's step one. Remove that garbage system. Here are steps 2 through 5;

2. Bring back Stephen Russell, fuck off this new guy - nobody cares about him, it's a Thief game goddamn it, Stephen Russell is Garret - and stop the "we're doing mo-cap so we need the movement actor to be the voice actor" silliness, you can mo-cap face and body separately.
3. Enable jump. I'm serious. I don't want L2 to be my auto-drive button, I want to jump where I want to and when I want to.. and if this means I jump to my death, so be it!
4. Remove "Focus" mode. It's Thief, not Assassin's Creed. If Garret can't knock someone out with a blackjack then that's that.
5. Bring back Hammerites and Pagans, you taffers!

~edit~



+1 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Oct 2013 00:30    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
That's step one. Remove that garbage system. Here are steps 2 through 5;

2. Bring back Stephen Russell, fuck off this new guy - nobody cares about him, it's a Thief game goddamn it, Stephen Russell is Garret - and stop the "we're doing mo-cap so we need the movement actor to be the voice actor" silliness, you can mo-cap face and body separately.
3. Enable jump. I'm serious. I don't want L2 to be my auto-drive button, I want to jump where I want to and when I want to.. and if this means I jump to my death, so be it!
4. Remove "Focus" mode. It's Thief, not Assassin's Creed. If Garret can't knock someone out with a blackjack then that's that.
5. Bring back Hammerites and Pagans, you taffers!

~edit~

Sure, sure. I'm guessing that game developer tycoon crashed right after that took place, right?


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Oct 2013 01:26    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
That's step one. Remove that garbage system. Here are steps 2 through 5;

2. Bring back Stephen Russell, fuck off this new guy - nobody cares about him, it's a Thief game goddamn it, Stephen Russell is Garret - and stop the "we're doing mo-cap so we need the movement actor to be the voice actor" silliness, you can mo-cap face and body separately.
3. Enable jump. I'm serious. I don't want L2 to be my auto-drive button, I want to jump where I want to and when I want to.. and if this means I jump to my death, so be it!
4. Remove "Focus" mode. It's Thief, not Assassin's Creed. If Garret can't knock someone out with a blackjack then that's that.
5. Bring back Hammerites and Pagans, you taffers!

~edit~



+ fucking 1

Dont get me wrong its great hearing they are listening to fans/people and making some changes at least, but its far from perfect
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Oct 2013 02:41    Post subject:
Well, it's a start. The game will still probably be a linear corridor shooter, but at least the "Boom, headshot +350xp, so awesome" is gone.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Oct 2013 07:21    Post subject:
Cheap Dherpf key:

http://www.nuuvem.com.br/produto/1444-thief 23.7€


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2013 19:18    Post subject:
Whoever decided this narrator's voice would be good enough, should be fired on the spot.
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 13:32    Post subject:
Why, oh why does ubi have to copy AC into this?

Oh well, I guess I should replay the first two...

And the narrator... He sounds like a retarded russian from some of the worst b-movies...


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 13:47    Post subject:
MapHtH wrote:
Why, oh why does ubi have to copy AC into this?

Oh well, I guess I should replay the first two...

And the narrator... He sounds like a retarded russian from some of the worst b-movies...



It's not an Ubisoft game
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 13:53    Post subject:
This happened a couple of times in this thread already, what gives? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 14:18    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
This happened a couple of times in this thread already, what gives? Laughing
It looks that it's going to be as boring and derp-friendly as your usual ubilol game? Cool Face

But yeah... weird Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2013 20:58    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
MapHtH wrote:
Why, oh why does ubi have to copy AC into this?

Oh well, I guess I should replay the first two...

And the narrator... He sounds like a retarded russian from some of the worst b-movies...

It's not an Ubisoft game :doh:


But the tendency itself is quite interesting - the first association these ignorant people came up with was Ubisoft. Geez, I wonder why :3
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