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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 20:05    Post subject:
Even worse! Fucking Blizzard... Jesus..
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 20:07    Post subject:
I hope they won't ever hear the end of this. That is just content for some DLC pack.
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frogster




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 20:08    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Well, to be fair. I expect it to be a fairly long and good campaign even if the base game needs some improvement.


What campaign? It's a single extra act.


from what i remember lod costed the same like d2. and added 2 classes, 1 act, new items, recipes, and game mechanismes. beside one class, sor seems to be the same.

before acusing me of fanboys, let me state that i dont intend to buy sor no matter the price, unless they add a form of ah ingame.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 20:10    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
I hope they won't ever hear the end of this. That is just content for some DLC pack.


Are you kidding? People are already praising the $30 price. The only thing Blizzard won't hear the end of is praise and happiness. It's amazing how much that company can screw people and still be lauded for it Sad Well I certainly won't be suckered again, that's for sure.
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Airbag




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 21:40    Post subject:
I'm indifferent at this point. $30 is exactly what I expected it to cost. Any more and there'd be hatred everywhere, since it's nowhere near as much content as HotS, any less and it wouldn't be Blizzard Razz. They don't do cheap (in b4 hearthstone). If they actually will convert dollars to euro's normally, I'm not even upset. But who am I kidding..
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 21:52    Post subject:
This is the most shocking thing what i have seen from the data mines...

Quote:

-Life Steal is less effective when you are higher level.
- At level 60, Life Steal gains a 0.10x multiplier.
-At level 70, Life Steal no longer functions.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 21:58    Post subject:
frogster wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Well, to be fair. I expect it to be a fairly long and good campaign even if the base game needs some improvement.


What campaign? It's a single extra act.


from what i remember lod costed the same like d2. and added 2 classes, 1 act, new items, recipes, and game mechanismes. beside one class, sor seems to be the same.

before acusing me of fanboys, let me state that i dont intend to buy sor no matter the price, unless they add a form of ah ingame.


The AH is the worst piece of shit feature of this game. I am extremely competitive and so is my friends, and it happens someone buys a lot of crap to stay ahead because everyone wants to be the best. Instead of getting loot from mobs everyone ends up at the AH buying the best gear. If this is how you think it should be then you're truly fucked in the head.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 22:03    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
http://www.gamefront.com/blizzard-consider-30-price-for-diablo-3-expansion/

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$30 for what should be a hearty expansion isn’t a tough price to swallow. We know Reaper of Souls will bring a new class (Crusader) to Diablo 3, along with a fifth act, wholly new environments, and a higher level cap.
Holy crap! Laughing


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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 22:39    Post subject:
What was the price for the expansion for Diablo 2 then, in comparison?
(Or Hellfire for Diablo 1)
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 22:41    Post subject:
i don't think the price tag is really the issue. 30$ for an expansion is all fine and ok.

but i think people are more in need of pissing over the game, so anything is welcome Smile

It could have been 1$ and some people still would have found a reason to trash it (the expansion)

that being said, i have no intention of playing this game ever again. I rather play D2 once a year to get my fix Smile
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JanKowalski82




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 22:58    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
What was the price for the expansion for Diablo 2 then, in comparison?
(Or Hellfire for Diablo 1)


In Poland D2 was 140zł (~35$ at that time) and the exp was 80zł (20$). But Poland has cheaper games than the West. Standard price must have been 50$ and 30$.


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 23:33    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
i don't think the price tag is really the issue. 30$ for an expansion is all fine and ok.

but i think people are more in need of pissing over the game, so anything is welcome Smile

It could have been 1$ and some people still would have found a reason to trash it (the expansion)


that being said, i have no intention of playing this game ever again. I rather play D2 once a year to get my fix Smile
Come on now, don't be ridiculous. Smile

Assuming that this will be equal in length to a normal act of the game, how long will that take?
And will it take place on one location alone?


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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 23:38    Post subject:
Its all good to pay 60 dollars for BF4 but this one costs 30 dollars and its too much. Guys seriously, this is unbeliavable Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 23:43    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Its all good to pay 60 dollars for BF4 but this one costs 30 dollars and its too much. Guys seriously, this is unbeliavable Laughing
Confused

Are you going to compare BF3 premium to this expansion?
Because... nevermind Laughing Laughing Laughing


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bani789




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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 23:50    Post subject:
$30 is on the high side, but I guess now that they're getting rid of RMAH they need to make their money somewhere else. $20 would've been more appropriate considering the content they're adding.

Ability to level to 70 and get higher skills / loot, one act, and one class, is pretty much the only exclusive content right?

Things like the new paragon system, the new loot system, loot runs, nephalem trials (or whatever)...will all be available without the expansion I believe?
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 00:03    Post subject:
bani789 wrote:
Things like the new paragon system, the new loot system, loot runs, nephalem trials (or whatever)...will all be available without the expansion I believe?


I think they said only loot 2.0, new paragon system and loot runs will come as a free patch. Everything else will be included in expansion.

It's kinda weird to not to include mystic with loot 2.0 for people without expansion..
Even if you get an item with STR as Demon Hunter., you won't be able to reroll STR > DEX. Seems really counter-productive.


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frogster




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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 06:43    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
frogster wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:


What campaign? It's a single extra act.


from what i remember lod costed the same like d2. and added 2 classes, 1 act, new items, recipes, and game mechanismes. beside one class, ros seems to be the same.

before acusing me of fanboys, let me state that i dont intend to buy ros no matter the price, unless they add a form of ah ingame.


The AH is the worst piece of shit feature of this game. I am extremely competitive and so is my friends, and it happens someone buys a lot of crap to stay ahead because everyone wants to be the best. Instead of getting loot from mobs everyone ends up at the AH buying the best gear. If this is how you think it should be then you're truly fucked in the head.


yeh, cause having a sane way to sell stuff instead of sellling on shit forums or spaming the shit out of chat instead of you know, plying, is really a bad thing.
and in diablo 2 noone buyed ever a single piece of equipment, right ? all top players in top gear farmed their gear in person. especially the items which dropped 1 / month for 500.000 players.
ah disapearence makes sense only by making all the geaar soulbound/accountbound.
please tell me you want that, and you are not against ah becasue of people buying gear with gold. cause you are insane if you think that people would not buy/trade gear without ah. do you really think that removing ah but keeping trading it will make d3 ok, and people will not buy their way to the top of ladders ? cause in that case you are truly fucked in the head, to quote you. take a look at krip and how it makes his way to the ladder in poe. you are competive enough to go againt thousend of people which just handle top gear to krip freely ? that is you definition about a fair game ? me and my friends are better than you and yours ? and what is worst is that the best way to get godly gear, is still a visa/mastercard.

if you are worry about ladders, it shoould be a game mode without ah/trading. like how hc was without rmah.

for the rest of normal nonladder player, i would expect to have a form of ah. if they keep trading between players enabled.

to resume and complete : the only way for me to buy ros is if blizzard will keep trading and ah up and for noncompetitive play.
if they disable trading, without putting the game in offline, modable mode, again i will skip it.
and i will probably not play d3 again. + will open a refund clain.


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 08:13    Post subject:
Frog, only people who are mad about the AH are those who haven't figured out a way to make a profit out of it. As usual the jellyness under the pretext of "oh my god it hurt the game!1oneone"

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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 08:37    Post subject:
new act and new class was in LOD for D2 as well,
and:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9678948971

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INDEX:

1. RELEASE DATE
2. NOTABLE CHARACTERS
3. STORY
4. NEW ACT
5. NEW CLASS
6. CLASS UPDATES
7. NEW LEVEL-CLASS
8. NEW MONSTERS
9. NEW ITEMS

10. AUCTION HOUSE REMOVED
11. LOOT 2.0
12. PARAGON 2.0
13. NEW ARTISAN
14. NEW FOLLOWERS
15. SOCIAL FEATURES
16. NEW ENDGAME OPTIONS
17. OTHER INFORMATION
18. USEFUL LINKS


marked what will be new for expansion


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 16:08    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
Frog, only people who are mad about the AH are those who haven't figured out a way to make a profit out of it. As usual the jellyness under the pretext of "oh my god it hurt the game!1oneone"

Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 16:18    Post subject:
Umm actually, LOD with Diablo 2, added 2 new classes. The druid and the Assassin, also it added runes and tons of new recipes and tons of new end game....Lod was worth the price, this however is not even worth mentioning.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 16:27    Post subject:
Boneleech wrote:
Umm actually, LOD with Diablo 2, added 2 new classes. The druid and the Assassin, also it added runes and tons of new recipes and tons of new end game....Lod was worth the price, this however is not even worth mentioning.


If you're talking about Diablo Clone and Uber Tristram, then IIRC they were not part of the expansion. They were later added as patches.


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 18:12    Post subject:
can't you guys bash the expansion once its out and you actually know what you are bashing ? Smile

Just a thought. Because what you are doing here is a lot of wasted energy for nothing, really.

And i know about wasting my energy, believe me Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 18:25    Post subject:
Blizzard latly as come with some strange decisions.. Hearthstone no open beta wipe when it comes.. now remove completly the auction house..

It would be alot better if they instead leave auction house in regular softcore and hardcore and in the new 4months or whatever races/leagues they would restrict the use of auction house And when it ends like in path of exile they transfer the races classes items to the regular softcore and hardcore.

That would give the option for people who like the auction house in normal leagues and the new leagues the option for those who like to start fresh selfound a la diablo 2.

Everyone would be happy i guesss
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 18:26    Post subject:
Boneleech wrote:
Umm actually, LOD with Diablo 2, added 2 new classes. The druid and the Assassin, also it added runes and tons of new recipes and tons of new end game....Lod was worth the price, this however is not even worth mentioning.


Orly?

Only argument you have is 2 classes instead of 1.

RoS changes the loot system completely, no more shitty stacking stats all over, interesting items with interesting affixes on them changing builds and whatnot way better than what LoD did.

Lots of end game in it as well, nephalem trials, loot runs etc.

1 new act = equal to LoD.

Rest is complete drivel as usual from uninformed haters.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 18:27    Post subject:
russ80, most of what you listed isn't part of the expansion, but the next (free) update.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 18:34    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
russ80, most of what you listed isn't part of the expansion, but the next (free) update.


Partially.

The new interesting items with changed affixes, most of them will be level 70 only (RoS).

Sure the previous legendaries will roll up to level 70 now, but i wasn't talking about those.

Neph/loot trials will also be given for free for old content, however the new content and dungeons (act 5) won't be available unless you buy it. So again, no access to the real endgame (lvl 70 versions of the trials/loot runs in act 5).

New class/act = xpansion only.

Also forgot to add the mystic.

Funny thing is that as you already mentioned sin, most of these changes will come to the game for free, yet people still whine about it. When's the last time a dev bothered to give so much content for free on a once-pay-to-play game? Except CDProject Red?

Yeah..exactly.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 18:39    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
can't you guys bash the expansion once its out and you actually know what you are bashing ? Smile

Just a thought. Because what you are doing here is a lot of wasted energy for nothing, really.

And i know about wasting my energy, believe me Smile


that's why i wrote this a couple posts up Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 20:52    Post subject:
Lets see two new classes with vastly different skill trees and rune recipes that would pretty much let you specialize ur build. Compared to 1 new class with the same god awful stats system that limits you to three working skills... Yeah russ you are right its the same Whistle me elmo
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Oct 2013 21:35    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:

now what you are bashing ? Smile

Just a thought. Because what you are doing here is a lot of wasted energy for nothing, really.

And i know about wasting my energy, believe me Smile




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