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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Sep 2013 16:12    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Sep 2013 19:12    Post subject:
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Tomorrow a special episode of Famitsu Live will be aired at 8 PM Japan Time (7 AM EST) on Nico Nico, and this time around it’s a juicy one.
Not only the hosts will give information on Sony’s and Microsoft’s booths at Tokyo Game Show, but a PS4 and a Xbox One will be brought to the studio for some “raw” gameplay before the trade show opens.
This is the first time in which the two upcoming consoles are pitched head to head in the same live broadcast. What games will be shown? and who will win the heated duel?
You can check out the stream for yourself at the link below, and call your own winner.


http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/09/17/famitsu-is-going-to-put-ps4-and-xbox-one-head-to-head-for-the-first-time-tomorrow-and-livestream-on-nico-nico/


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Sep 2013 20:06    Post subject:
Funny post Hfric Smile. JackQ, I have no fucking clue on how to interpret your next to last post on previous page. I think you lost yourself in your reasoning Very Happy.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Sep 2013 20:45    Post subject:
my posts interpretion in short:
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PS4 seems to be the stronger hardware,but it's too early to really determined how much it will perform better the Xbone


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Hfric




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Sep 2013 23:49    Post subject:
Laughing

as of now M$ only hopes they exclusives can lure the crowd to theirs console , because in long therm ps4 is the winner here ... with its politics that still are Behind Used Market Games , when XBox One is NOT


but then again first hacked gets my money


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May the NFOrce be with you always.
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 20:11    Post subject:
What the fuck has happened to Final Fantasy Mind Is Full Of Fuck
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 20:15    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
What the fuck has happened to Final Fantasy Mind Is Full Of Fuck


A question I've been asking myself for the last 10 years, mate Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 20:23    Post subject:
Deep Down looks interesting , some nice fluid animations and all..but damn that gp is all over the place..not liking that atm.
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 21:20    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
What the fuck has happened to Final Fantasy Mind Is Full Of Fuck


Hooray for Western Influences !!
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readonly




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 00:00    Post subject:
Final phaggotry hasn't been good for me since X. I know lots liked it but up to 9 is where I left off in the series. Coudln't play through x.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 00:03    Post subject:
You should try X again, it really is a fantastic game once you get into it. The English voices *can* be annoying, depending on your tolerance, but the story, the music and the gameplay are all absolutely top notch. It's also the last game I really consider to be "Final Fantasy" - at least from SE. Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey are both magnificent and ever bit the true FFXI and FFXII for me.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 00:20    Post subject:
WTF IS THAT FINAL FANTASY SHIT????

OH MY GOD!

Reminds me of Devil May Cry more than Final Fantasy, jesus...
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 02:31    Post subject:
\Fuck it i looks coooll So Much Win


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 02:33    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
\Fuck it i looks coooll So Much Win


NO!

Best game in the universe is still Final Fantasy 7!
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 02:40    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
\Fuck it i looks coooll So Much Win


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 02:46    Post subject:
Couldn't find general Sony thread so whatever:

http://www.bluesnews.com/s/145218/soe-twitter-abusers-can-be-banned-from-games

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An article titled Trolls and Tribulations on GamesIndustry International talks with Linda Carlson, Director of Global Community Relations at Sony Online Entertainment about the difficulties inherent in managing online communities, where the nights are long and the tempers are short. She explains their approach to griefers includes the possibility of banning someone from playing their games if they can determine he or she is being excessively abusive even when this is external to a game, using Twitter abuse as an example:
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 02:48    Post subject:
Good Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 08:22    Post subject:
what the heck? i thought everyone liked FFvs13 aka FFV, when did people's likeness here go 180? man this place can be depressing Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 13:31    Post subject:
Another new,not sure if mentioned here,is that PS4 will have NO HDMI's HDCP protection..that means you can grab your fav HDMI recording card/Device and record the fuck out of it...for things LONGER than the Share Button's 15-20 LAST minutes ..Even movies! (??)

Source: http://www.destructoid.com/sony-confirms-playstation-4-recording-via-hdmi-262138.phtml


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 13:38    Post subject:
Even though I'm getting it (because let's admit it, the launch titles on PS4 aren't the best of the world), it doesn't look that impressive to me.

But we'll see. Looks like the boredom that was Crysis...

As sad as I can see, it seems for now that 3rd party will have the most interesting launch titles : for sure americans (Laughing) will play the hell out of BF4/COD GHOSTS and europeans FIFA 14 (on either ONE or PS4). Or Watch Dogs !

Since I'm not like ze americans or ze standard european, I'm getting Killzone and Knack anyway (which looks underrated).

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak2o-OtrboU&feature=player_embedded
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 13:42    Post subject:
man ... graphics on those fucking games/

even tho motion blur is insane with 30fps killzone and deep down, all of sudden its fine ? Wink Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 14:28    Post subject:
Huh ? I won't troll you because I have to admit that I can play at 30fps (even though I prefer 60fps), without killing myself.

Now, motion blur doesn't do shit to me, it still runs at 30fps even with motion blur, and you can see that. Like you, I like motion blur though, and sometimes I think it adds to the game (not in term of FPS (Laughing), but in term of making it more real).

Obviously I'd love every game (and I'm sure you too KC) to be running at 60fps, but come on, there is no way 100% of the games on PS4/ONE would be running at 60fps.

PC that are using the same hardware can pull many games at 60fps, but this is because you can also scale down details in settings, etc.. Remove AA to your will, decrease shadow quality, etc... On console, you cannot do that.

Obviously they could sacrifice details, like Nintendo do in many of its games because their consoles are underpowered (I think Mario Kart 7 on 3DS is the perfect example : the game doesn't look that nice for 3DS, but at least it runs at 60fps).

Now, I'm not sure, Killzone doesn't look that nice either, yet it runs at 30fps ? Means that either they are shitty programmers, or that it would need shittier visuals to run at 60fps... ANd honestly, shittier visuals would make the game really meh considering it doesn't look amazing to begin with.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 14:39    Post subject:
I've seen nothing in Killzone that would prevent the PS4's hardware from doing 60 FPS.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 14:53    Post subject:
ofc I would prefer 60fps but if it must be 30fps... at least make it look good and make it stable 30fps...
Some motion blur always helps to make it feel smoother + playing with analog sticks makes it easier to go with 30fps.
30 is terrible with mouse.
30 fps can be done well. Look at Dead Rising or Dark Souls on consoles (not blighttown). Those games feel good with controller


and werelds - yeah - that killzone doesnt look that impressive not to be running 60fps. And from what we've seen it even goes below 30... pathethic.



http://frames-per-second.appspot.com/ here is a cool tool for framerate comparison. chose 30 on both balls and turn of motion blur at one. For my taste and FOR MY LIKING - the 30fps with motion blur seems smoother (0.5 mb is better)
then do the same on 60fps. mb is not needed on 60fps indeed. It is smooth enough without it. but on 30 - for me its a must.

so this _ high res, aa and I might not give a shit about 30fps cap Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 14:53    Post subject:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/20/xbox-one-horizontal-only/

I know plenty of people who've got their Xboxes vertical because it's easier to make space for it then, so that's a big bummer for people like them, especially since the XBO is so goddamn massive Laughing

I think KC has his vertical as well?

KillerCrocker wrote:
For my taste and FOR MY LIKING - the 30fps with motion blur seems smoother (0.5 mb is better)

See, to me that does nothing. I still see both stutter like a bitch, the one with motion blur is just that: blurry.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 15:00    Post subject:
yes. Mine is vertical. No space to have this crap horizontal.

see - there should be a toggle for those who prefer it and those who don't.
and also - some games make it better and some worse. Too much is never good


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