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escalibur




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 18:44    Post subject:
KaSssss wrote:
Windows 8 64 bits

3gb of vram needed as recommanded? Confused


What? Win 8 is totally fine OS. I've been using it for months and there is no way I'm going back to 7.
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 18:45    Post subject:
It goes from Vista to Win8, I see no problems with that.
And just like escalibut I too haven't had any problems with Win8.


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 18:50    Post subject:
Yes is better faster and suports DX 11.1 Cool Face
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 18:50    Post subject:
By the way, where in origin can I find the system requirements for BF4?


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escalibur




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 18:52    Post subject:
celltech wrote:
escalibur wrote:
KaSssss wrote:
Windows 8 64 bits

3gb of vram needed as recommanded? Confused


What? Win 8 is totally fine OS. I've been using it for months and there is no way I'm going back to 7.


how is win8 is better than win7? is it faster? im curious and i dont know anyone that has win8


I think it is faster. Starting/shutting down, copying files etc... I like new task manager aswell, image mounting without (mostly annoying) 3rd party software, etc.. and Metro could be much better but I dont miss old start menu at all. After you clean stock Metro apps and set the ones you really use/need it is pretty useful.

I suggest everyone to test it for a month or longer. '15min' test and 'all knowing' trolls might not tell you the actual truth about Win 8.

...and yet again it's far from prefect but it is definitely not a disaster either.
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 18:55    Post subject:
I tested the shit win8 on my notebook back then for some days = Rage Are You Serious
After that i installed win7 again = Everything Went Better Than Expected


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 18:55    Post subject:
+1, using Windows 8 since day 1, no issue here. Actually it's much better and faster than Windows 7.

Specs:

https://www.origin.com/en-us/store/buy/battlefield-4/pc-download/base-game/standard-edition


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 18:58    Post subject:
I don't see the problem with Win8, I really don't. Except for the metro UI (which you can remove with different 3rd party SW) it's basically the same look/feel albeit with improved stuff under the hood.
I had some issues with it however on my laptop but that wasn't really win8 but more that there weren't any suitable video drivers for it (some old i5/ati hybrid).


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 18:58    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
madness wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
"with premium" ? i think the space difference with or without premium is around ...

0 bytes.


New maps don't take any space? Embarassed


what has that to do with premium ?

the maps are in the dlc's.

you can have the dlc's separately without premium.


Dude! You did understand my point and just wanted to pick on random things like you always do.



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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 19:01    Post subject:
Jfyi... i too tried Win8 with Metro and hated it. But with something like Startisback, you have the old Startmenu and can deactivate Metro and all the other shit. That way its really the better Win7.
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 19:09    Post subject:
difm wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
madness wrote:


New maps don't take any space? Embarassed


what has that to do with premium ?

the maps are in the dlc's.

you can have the dlc's separately without premium.


Dude! You did understand my point and just wanted to pick on random things like you always do.



probably Smile


And for the win7/8 discussion ... faster ? How the hell do you even measure that ? Does it "feel" faster ? Or do you compare your pc's hardware from 4 years ago with now ? How the hell do you measure the speed of windows ?
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KaSssss




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 19:18    Post subject:
for gaming its same

so if a game like BF4 needs 3gb of vram in 2013 we can expect more in 2014 (6gb?) Very Happy

btw win7 vs win 8 : win 7 is still the winner for gamers

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 19:42    Post subject:
How exactly does the fact that more people are using Windows 7 (which has been on the market considerably longer) make it the winner in terms of performance?
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 19:53    Post subject:
unless something actually requires windows 8, i won't change. Period.

or unless someone can me show (and prove) that windows 8 is substantially faster (whatever that means) then windows 7.
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 19:59    Post subject:
The only reason I'm using Win8 is because I actually own a legal license of it. Very Happy
That and I couldn't be arsed to reinstall win7 again and have to redo all the shit that comes with it.

Ohh and by the way, I'm still wondering where in Origin I can find all these details... Surprised




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 20:03    Post subject:
hey, if a legit windows 8 license dropped into my lap, i wouldn't mind installing it either. But for now, i am using and am content with windows 7.
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 20:06    Post subject:
It was like 18€ with that trick combined with a discount code...that's almost like if it were free to me. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 20:29    Post subject:
lol, yeah i'd consider that free, too.
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 20:38    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
unless something actually requires windows 8, i won't change. Period.

or unless someone can me show (and prove) that windows 8 is substantially faster (whatever that means) then windows 7.


As I've already said give it a chance and test it for yourself....


http://betanews.com/2013/09/05/windows-8-1-for-work-27-great-new-features-aimed-at-the-office/



Sorry about this offtopic now -> BF4
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 20:42    Post subject:
it's not that much off topic i think.

Anyway, i am a pure gamer/media user when it comes to pc. I play games, watch movies and shows and listen music.

That's it.

i don't use any applications or anything, unless they are related to the above and even then very lightly.

I don't do any kind of work or anything remotely related to work or office stuff on my pc.

i barely (if at all) use anything of windows itself or for it specifically.

So what possibly could i get with windows 8, that i don't have already with windows 7 ? I.e. a simple interface to launch my games, use my browser, watch my movies and shows and listen my music Smile
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 20:45    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
Anyway, i am a pure gamer/media user when it comes to pc. I play games, watch movies and shows and listen music.



So am I mate.

As I've said it's not something totally different but it definitely feels a bit faster.
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 20:49    Post subject:
how you mean "feels faster" ? In what aspect, at what point ?
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 21:16    Post subject:
When i tested Win8 on my Notebook, the starttime when i was able to start programs was about 30secs or so. With Win7 it was 1:30 mins, probably even longer.
And that was without a SSD even.

But searching, or even googling, for simple system settings (like changing some settings for the current WLAN connection) made me so mad, that i had to uninstall that mess.

IMO Win8 is only good for newbs that never really used Windows before
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 21:21    Post subject:
http://www.bf4blog.com/battlefield-4-on-windows-8-will-have-better-cpu-optimization/

“We use DX11.1, there are some optimizations in it (constant buffer offsets, dynamic buffers as SRVs) that we got in to the API that improves CPU performance in our rendering when one runs with DX11.1. This will be in BF4.” Johan Andersson stated.
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 21:30    Post subject:
The 8-core AMD "next-gen" console CPU really needs these optimizations Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 21:41    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
When i tested Win8 on my Notebook, the starttime when i was able to start programs was about 30secs or so. With Win7 it was 1:30 mins, probably even longer.
And that was without a SSD even.[...]


that's hybernation for you. :3
Windows 8 uses kernel hybernation - it basically closes all programs, writes the kernel-part of the ram to the disk and shuts down. unless you do a reboot or disable kernel hybernation you can't really compare times to Win7... and if you do it's about the same speed, maybe slightly faster due to a smaller kernel.

the article escalibur linked is definitely interesting... I might give it another go when I find the time.


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lol you're done wih the game? already ??????? jesus. ppl havent even finished downloading it yet

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escalibur




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 22:07    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
how you mean "feels faster" ? In what aspect, at what point ?


I've already written that few messages above...



"I think it is faster. Starting/shutting down, copying files etc... I like new task manager aswell, image mounting without (mostly annoying) 3rd party software, etc.. and Metro could be much better but I dont miss old start menu at all. After you clean stock Metro apps and set the ones you really use/need it is pretty useful."
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 22:10    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
The 8-core AMD "next-gen" console CPU really needs these optimizations Laughing






vs...



Quote:
“We use DX11.1, there are some optimizations in it (constant buffer offsets, dynamic buffers as SRVs) that we got in to the API that improves CPU performance in our rendering when one runs with DX11.1. This will be in BF4.” Johan Andersson stated.



http://www.bf4blog.com/battlefield-4-on-windows-8-will-have-better-cpu-optimization/
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 22:41    Post subject:
Him696 wrote:
http://www.bf4blog.com/battlefield-4-on-windows-8-will-have-better-cpu-optimization/

“We use DX11.1, there are some optimizations in it (constant buffer offsets, dynamic buffers as SRVs) that we got in to the API that improves CPU performance in our rendering when one runs with DX11.1. This will be in BF4.” Johan Andersson stated.


Yeah, yeah, watch me! I'm now in a hurry to install Windows 8 ASAP! Laughing
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