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Gobass




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 01:23    Post subject:
Przepraszam wrote:
Anyone know if there is release that has included Polish language?


at the moment there is only this Diablo_III_RUS_PS3-PSCLUB it got RUS and PL !
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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 02:05    Post subject:
Gobass wrote:
Przepraszam wrote:
Anyone know if there is release that has included Polish language?


at the moment there is only this Diablo_III_RUS_PS3-PSCLUB it got RUS and PL !


Thanks! Grabbed myself Diablo III_XBOX360-X360CLUB.

It's always better to play games in your native language Very Happy Very Happy


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Neon
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 02:46    Post subject:
No. It's always better to play the game in the language it was developed in.

That's why the only game that I play in Polish is The Witcher series.
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MEGAtexture




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 03:20    Post subject:
now i have enough time on the console version, its so much better it hurts

i saw your lil discussion about AH and rmah "not being forced"

you have to understand on pc the whole game is designed with the AH in mind, everything from droprates to moster difficulty step ups is being factored in

example: a lvl 63 rare 1 hander on pc can roll with as low dps as 100 and top out on 1250+
add to that 3 to 6 random properties (yeah even the number of stats is random) it treats it like a separate roll for each stat

now add to that dmg% and weapon dmg TYPE and we are up to 9 diffrent and separately rolled stats, of wich 6 can be dex/str/int/vis/critdmg/socket/loh/atkspeed etc.

as you can see the chances of getting something useful even if you get a fair amount of lvl 63's dropping is pretty much more than slim

it was designed this way BECAUSE of the AH, they wanted it to be hard to get the pieces you wanted/needed to progress, initially before the fixes/patches they wanted you to be forced to farm gear before you hit inferno with droprates on 63 gear being in the 1% bracket .and straight from a blue mouth "this is where the ah comes in"


console version however is designed NOT to use AH , hence it doesnt take 50 years worth of playtime to get a competitive character, its still alot of work and requires shitload of farming. but the adjustments made to stats on gear and how it is rolled (theres now a cap on stat ranges depending on rarity and ilvl) makes it so much more pleasant to play, it really feels like this is how the game should have been from the start

but if you never got to inferno i can understand why you think the ah isnt forced, but i double dare anyone that states that to try and get through inferno and start doing mp5+ without going there (wich is still not as hard as old inferno but atleast close to)

in short, getting 100k dps is almost impossible without going to AH, getting 150 is a mental undertaking, getting 200+ ? "well cya in about 68 years mate"

doing the mp's EFFECTIVELY or "actually have a slim chance of getting the rares/leggys per hour i need to even have a chance to get something i can use"
100k = mp3:ish
150k =mp5:ish
rising to 500k+ =mp10

you can do em with lower stats altho ull be too slow and ull only drag out the killtime wich equals less chances to get something useful

i usually land on 15-20 leggys per day with 2 accounts and oh maybe 4000 rares (13-14 hours)

after rougly 500 hours of farming ive gotten a semi good legendary chest and NOTHING else of use above 100k

oh almost forgot on a sample of 50000 drops 0.1% is legendary, set item 0.05ISH (and yeah they also have the crazy random stats) so building a set on pc without AH ?

yeeeeah right
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 08:15    Post subject:
Przepraszam wrote:
It's always better to play games in your native language Very Happy Very Happy

what? no, no no, million times no (unless your native is English).
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 08:40    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
No. It's always better to play the game in the language it was developed in.

That's why the only game that I play in Polish is The Witcher series.


yep, translations are never perfect, and in many cases completely off and misleading.
next time i play a witcher game i may try it in polish since i understand a little bit of it and no western european language can even begin to display the amount of cursing of an eastern european / slavic language Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 09:37    Post subject:
I'm so damn happy we don't get Dutch translations, it always looks insanely awkward to me Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 11:34    Post subject:
MEGAtexture wrote:
now i have enough time on the console version, its so much better it hurts

i saw your lil discussion about AH and rmah "not being forced"

 Spoiler:
 


the Loot system on PC is still broken,no argue with that but I won't say Unfixable,since it is been Signify Improved on consoles,and being patched on PC few times with more deeper sysem coming out near Reaper of Souls.
Inferno Difficulty is optional,you need to beat the game few times/getting to level 60 to get it,AH indeed making things easier,since it's a problem to get the strongest items,but I won't say Impossible,I need to try this difficulty sometimes when I have time.


on conles,not everything is perfect,the trading System is clumsier,and explioted more easy,which hurt the value of the itmes lots more,as you can find in the PC thread:
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43806&start=12690


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Big_Gun




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 14:00    Post subject:
Does the console version not have Hard Core mode?
Or am I missing it somewhere?
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 14:02    Post subject:
it does have one. I'm not sure it's called hardcore since I play it in french, but I'm pretty sure I saw it, and said I needed to have a level 10 character first.


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 14:05    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
it does have one. I'm not sure it's called hardcore since I play it in french, but I'm pretty sure I saw it, and said I needed to have a level 10 character first.


Hmm. ok. I will look again. Thanks.
At least I know it is there.
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headshot
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 16:26    Post subject:
I didnt realise the maps were randomized ...

I went to one area during the 'Khazra Staff' quest, cleared it out completely and exited the game. When I went back into the game the whole area had changed including new buildings, one which contained a merchant and the other a 2 level dungeon! I was quite impressed.


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Nailbiter
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 16:59    Post subject:
Yeah went in a dungeon and it felt mirrored. Good replay and coop in this one...
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 17:17    Post subject:
You need to play some more ARPGs headshot (your rig can handle most of them, TQ excluded I think Razz). This game is not really randomised. It puts NPCs/dungeons in different places, but the maps are all fixed to one of 2, maybe 3 layouts.
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Cyb3r




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 17:20    Post subject:
yeah they mirror the zone maps to make it feel more random sometimes you'll find something new but last i played it didn't happen too much that i found new vendors
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 18:36    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
You need to play some more ARPGs headshot (your rig can handle most of them, TQ excluded I think Razz). This game is not really randomised. It puts NPCs/dungeons in different places, but the maps are all fixed to one of 2, maybe 3 layouts.


Naw, his machine will play Titan Quest fine Smile It's an old single-core game, it recommends a Pentium 4 and a GeForce 6800 Very Happy
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killabyte




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 20:29    Post subject:
Technically, you're not forced to use the AH on the PC version but I don't see how anyone can deny that it ruined the potential of the game - and I say ruined the potential instead of ruined the game because obviously a lot of players get along with it.

From what I have read about the loot dropping on the console version though... well you would think the proof was in the pudding, right? As Sabin said you have to play for 1000's of hours to get what you're looking for, if even then. I literally could not count how many times I would get the same shitty legendary over and over - but what I could count is the number of highly sought after/needed items that I found. I had over 2000 hours (combined) across the 3 characters I played. Most likely I have more than that and yes, I literally did nothing but play D3 when I wasn't at work. I was in a bad funk and it was how I coped. I found less than 12 "kick ass" items. I mostly used a DH and not one single one of them was for it. I played from 2 days after release until the 1st day of December that year. Some days I would start at 6 in the morning and quit around 1 a.m. with short breaks for eating and showering, etc. No I shouldn't have found awesome items weekly; I get that. But in 2000+ hours of play time I never really felt rewarded for the effort I put into the game.

The best I found was the set ring for WD's that I got around 150 million out of, and still it wasn't enough to buy just 1 item I needed for the DH build I wanted to use - because obviously I was never going to find Nat's cloak or any of the other items by playing, so buying them was the only way.
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Sep 2013 02:58    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Werelds wrote:
You need to play some more ARPGs headshot (your rig can handle most of them, TQ excluded I think Razz). This game is not really randomised. It puts NPCs/dungeons in different places, but the maps are all fixed to one of 2, maybe 3 layouts.


Naw, his machine will play Titan Quest fine Smile It's an old single-core game, it recommends a Pentium 4 and a GeForce 6800 Very Happy


lol Titan Quest was great! I played that back in the day when my 'rig' wasnt such as a POS lol.

BTW you did read that part about my 6800GT AGP card dying and Im running on 64mb onboard video, right? lol.


May the NFOrce be with you always.
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Sep 2013 03:19    Post subject:
Like I said, the game *recommends* a GF6800. I'm sure you could run it on a 6800GT (that was an EPIC card by the way) - the *minimum* a Radeon 8500 (Holy shit...) or a GF3ti Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Sep 2013 09:13    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Werelds wrote:
You need to play some more ARPGs headshot (your rig can handle most of them, TQ excluded I think Razz). This game is not really randomised. It puts NPCs/dungeons in different places, but the maps are all fixed to one of 2, maybe 3 layouts.


Naw, his machine will play Titan Quest fine Smile It's an old single-core game, it recommends a Pentium 4 and a GeForce 6800 Very Happy


lol Titan Quest was great! I played that back in the day when my 'rig' wasnt such as a POS lol.

BTW you did read that part about my 6800GT AGP card dying and Im running on 64mb onboard video, right? lol.

I can send you a glorious 9700? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Sep 2013 19:25    Post subject:
anyone up for some co-op? add me: lillington
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Sep 2013 19:43    Post subject:
Hey headshot, I have a Matrox Millennium with an extra 4 MB ram for it, in PCI if you want !

Supports 1024x768 in 60hz !!!!

Werelds wrote:
headshot wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:


Naw, his machine will play Titan Quest fine Smile It's an old single-core game, it recommends a Pentium 4 and a GeForce 6800 Very Happy


lol Titan Quest was great! I played that back in the day when my 'rig' wasnt such as a POS lol.

BTW you did read that part about my 6800GT AGP card dying and Im running on 64mb onboard video, right? lol.

I can send you a glorious 9700? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Sep 2013 20:11    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
Hey headshot, I have a Matrox Millennium with an extra 4 MB ram for it, in PCI if you want !

Supports 1024x768 in 60hz !!!!

Werelds wrote:
headshot wrote:


lol Titan Quest was great! I played that back in the day when my 'rig' wasnt such as a POS lol.

BTW you did read that part about my 6800GT AGP card dying and Im running on 64mb onboard video, right? lol.

I can send you a glorious 9700? Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Sep 2013 22:40    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
BTW you did read that part about my 6800GT AGP card dying and Im running on 64mb onboard video, right? lol.


http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1421792

I revived a dead X1950pro AGP that wasn't even POSTing and working great now.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 09:16    Post subject:
just a heads up if you run this on a x360, i have an old jtag'd falcon that didnt have the rrod fix nor has it been sent to ms, d3 has made my box red ring 2 times in a row now (ive reflowed it and applied rrod fix inbetween) what happens is d3 fuckin cooks your gpu so hard (and the old motherboards flex thus messing up the solderballs beneath the gpu) ive stabilized the board now the second time it happened so hopefully it wont happen again

for some reason the gpu runs 15 degrees hotter in d3 than any other game ???, wierd as all hell, both forza 4 and forza horizon stayed at 65 degrees roughly (hour of play), while d3 instantly shoots up to 75 degrees upon loading up basicly, and both those games stress the box a whole lot more graphically (temps with modded case and active cooling on gpu, so yeah even worse), i cant even imagine what would happen with stock cooling, prolly closer to 90-95 as the standard is 80:ish

15 degrees on these old boxes is a crapload of extra heat as they are already sensitive, so be very careful or ull have a rrod soon Razz

i wonder if they forgot to add fps limiter ? cause it seems to get worse in menus and when you open inv
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 10:08    Post subject:
It's fine here. Been playing it all friday and saturday.

With the fans at 70-75% the temps stay cool; 45-55 for GPU/CPU, 28-30 for the case and 58-61 for RAM witch is the only one going over 60.

Use the fan speed option and try to keep it all under 65. Wink


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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 10:22    Post subject:
MEGAtexture wrote:
just a heads up if you run this on a x360, i have an old jtag'd falcon that didnt have the rrod fix nor has it been sent to ms, d3 has made my box red ring 2 times in a row now (ive reflowed it and applied rrod fix inbetween) what happens is d3 fuckin cooks your gpu so hard (and the old motherboards flex thus messing up the solderballs beneath the gpu) ive stabilized the board now the second time it happened so hopefully it wont happen again

for some reason the gpu runs 15 degrees hotter in d3 than any other game ???, wierd as all hell, both forza 4 and forza horizon stayed at 65 degrees roughly (hour of play), while d3 instantly shoots up to 75 degrees upon loading up basicly, and both those games stress the box a whole lot more graphically (temps with modded case and active cooling on gpu, so yeah even worse), i cant even imagine what would happen with stock cooling, prolly closer to 90-95 as the standard is 80:ish

15 degrees on these old boxes is a crapload of extra heat as they are already sensitive, so be very careful or ull have a rrod soon Razz

i wonder if they forgot to add fps limiter ? cause it seems to get worse in menus and when you open inv

sorry, but this doesn't happen on my JTAG Jasper. temps are 45-50C while playing D3 for hours. you are just another unlucky one who had RROD while playing a certain game and then think it's that game to blame. no, you can't blame one game, it takes a loooong time to build up for RROD to happen. it was just pure randomness that for you RROD happened in diablo3 and not some other game.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 13:46    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
MEGAtexture wrote:
just a heads up if you run this on a x360, i have an old jtag'd falcon that didnt have the rrod fix nor has it been sent to ms, d3 has made my box red ring 2 times in a row now (ive reflowed it and applied rrod fix inbetween) what happens is d3 fuckin cooks your gpu so hard (and the old motherboards flex thus messing up the solderballs beneath the gpu) ive stabilized the board now the second time it happened so hopefully it wont happen again

for some reason the gpu runs 15 degrees hotter in d3 than any other game ???, wierd as all hell, both forza 4 and forza horizon stayed at 65 degrees roughly (hour of play), while d3 instantly shoots up to 75 degrees upon loading up basicly, and both those games stress the box a whole lot more graphically (temps with modded case and active cooling on gpu, so yeah even worse), i cant even imagine what would happen with stock cooling, prolly closer to 90-95 as the standard is 80:ish

15 degrees on these old boxes is a crapload of extra heat as they are already sensitive, so be very careful or ull have a rrod soon Razz

i wonder if they forgot to add fps limiter ? cause it seems to get worse in menus and when you open inv

sorry, but this doesn't happen on my JTAG Jasper. temps are 45-50C while playing D3 for hours. you are just another unlucky one who had RROD while playing a certain game and then think it's that game to blame. no, you can't blame one game, it takes a loooong time to build up for RROD to happen. it was just pure randomness that for you RROD happened in diablo3 and not some other game.




christ read again, yeah i know im one of the unlucky with a crap mobo, BUT IT DOES THAT CAUSE D3 PUSHED IT 15 DEGREES HIGHER, see the rrod comes from overheating, the board flexes and fucks up the solderballs, if it hadnt been for the extra 15 degrees it wouldnt have rrod, simple. the board had prepped cooling just for this reason. and managed to keep it cool enough UNTIL playing d3. where it went above the limit for what the cooling and board could handle, as it rrod:ed 2 times i was able to get some temp readins

and you guys dont even HAVE the mobo's that has that particular rrod problem...

from jasper and onwards its fixed, hence the posts was for the boxes that are prone to rrod, zephyr,falcon,opus

i swear sometimes you guys dont even try Rolling Eyes
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MEGAtexture




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 13:51    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
MEGAtexture wrote:
just a heads up if you run this on a x360, i have an old jtag'd falcon that didnt have the rrod fix nor has it been sent to ms, d3 has made my box red ring 2 times in a row now (ive reflowed it and applied rrod fix inbetween) what happens is d3 fuckin cooks your gpu so hard (and the old motherboards flex thus messing up the solderballs beneath the gpu) ive stabilized the board now the second time it happened so hopefully it wont happen again

for some reason the gpu runs 15 degrees hotter in d3 than any other game ???, wierd as all hell, both forza 4 and forza horizon stayed at 65 degrees roughly (hour of play), while d3 instantly shoots up to 75 degrees upon loading up basicly, and both those games stress the box a whole lot more graphically (temps with modded case and active cooling on gpu, so yeah even worse), i cant even imagine what would happen with stock cooling, prolly closer to 90-95 as the standard is 80:ish

15 degrees on these old boxes is a crapload of extra heat as they are already sensitive, so be very careful or ull have a rrod soon Razz

i wonder if they forgot to add fps limiter ? cause it seems to get worse in menus and when you open inv

sorry, but this doesn't happen on my JTAG Jasper. temps are 45-50C while playing D3 for hours. you are just another unlucky one who had RROD while playing a certain game and then think it's that game to blame. no, you can't blame one game, it takes a loooong time to build up for RROD to happen. it was just pure randomness that for you RROD happened in diablo3 and not some other game.



oh so here i have been reballing/reflowing my motherboard when all it was WAS THE FANSPEED, boy do i feel like an idiot now!! i cant believe it was so easy, i should call ms and tell em its not at all the combination of the motherboard flexing on the xclamps along with junk solder, making the cooling not properly attaching to the chip. its just the fuckin fans. phew am i glad you told me that so i dont have to waste more time repairing it


/sarcasm off, pissy mood commence
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 14:00    Post subject:
maybe YOU should read. while playing D3 my JTAG temps are same just like any other game. i was being polite with you, but if you play that way i can say BULLSHIT and more BULLSHIT. D3 doesn't heat up consoles by +15 degrees.
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