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| Mutantius wrote: | | Yea, thats what I fear when it comes to the sequels... I mean he wont be involved right? |
Not that I know, but i'm afraid the sequels will suck anyway..
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Sep 2005 21:03 Post subject: |
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| Mutantius wrote: | | Yea, thats what I fear when it comes to the sequels... I mean he wont be involved right? |
He will. I just read somewhere (I forget) that he's gonna be involved again with Sin City 2.
| Griffon wrote: | You mean Academy Awards? Sin City won't get a single nomination, not even for Cinemagraphy. The academy won't even look at Sin City... :\
Same with Batman probably |
Yeah the Academy will probably ignore them which sucks. But I really hope Batman at least gets a nomination for the music. I loved the score.
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Sep 2005 00:14 Post subject: |
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Well, name one movie from 2005 that was better than Sin City?
In the end, the Academy Awards dont mean shit.
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Sep 2005 00:25 Post subject: |
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| feyenoord4ever wrote: | Well, name one movie from 2005 that was better than Sin City?
In the end, the Academy Awards dont mean shit. |
For me it's like that: "Name one movie from 2005 that was worse than Sin City?"
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| Posted: Sun, 25th Sep 2005 01:14 Post subject: |
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| feyenoord4ever wrote: | Well, name one movie from 2005 that was better than Sin City?
In the end, the Academy Awards dont mean shit. |
The Excorcism of Emily Rose....but then again, I didnt like Sin city at all lol |
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2005 02:02 Post subject: |
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| Mutantius wrote: | I just can't figure out what is bad about sin city 
But I quess its about taste. |
To me it was a so-so movie, enjoyable, with some very nice performance and a great cast, but it has its flaws. Mainly, it's excessive. In a stupid way at times. I was about to hit the screen as bad as I could when I saw the scene of the guy who got the arrow in his stomach and tries to be funny. I thought that kind of crappy humour was estinguished with 70s and 80s cartoons, you know, the typical gag of the bad man with a whole in the head that says "ouch, it hurts! Should have it checked by a medic! Sheesh!". The fact that Sin City was based on comics doesn't justify its shitty parts.
Batman, on the other hand, was brilliant. Hands down the best super-hero movie ever done and one of the most interesting action movies of the year. Compelling story, nice acting and a damn fine cast. There are some blurry fighting scenes, and no, I didn't like them, but they don't bring the movie down at all.
All of you guys that complain about "blurry action scenes" should see The Bourne Supremacy again. Describing that movie as a pile of shit is a compliment. Non-existent plot (Bourne's girlfriend getting killed after like 3 minutes to justify him getting angry at the world again, what a nice and clever start!) and horrible, fast, stupid, blurry action scenes. You really can't even see the glimpse of a punch there, not to mention the final, LONG car chase that becomes ridiculous in the end.
I didn't want to go off-topic, but THAT is a valid example of blurry combat scenes. Batman is too fast in some moments, I'll give you that, but it's nothing compared to some recently celebrated horrible flicks.
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The Bourne movies are 2 of my favourites...the fight scene's arent blurred to me...and as for the storyline, ya ur right...but I also read all the books...The Bourne Identity, The Bourne Supremecy and The Bourne Ultimatum by Robert Ludlum
The movies differ from the books a lil bit...but all the info left out of part 2 (alot) i just filled in the rest ya know
Still, im gunna watch The Bourne Supremecy after i watch Rome at 9...gunna look to see if its blurred as much as u say
Either which way, they blur it out because they guys cant really fight and usually a double
Matt Damon has no martial arts training...same with Christian Bale (batman)...for batman, they really should have got someone who has martial arts (whether it be hollywood martial arts or real martial arts)skill rather than who they used...the only movies I like that Christian Bale stars in is The Machinist and American Psycho
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2005 17:25 Post subject: |
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to the guy talking about the batmobile: think before posting. Note how it was perfectly explained. How the fuck would a rich millionaire inconspicuously get a batmobile similar to the one of earlier generations? ludicrous. I chose utility of a little better aesthetics any day...
hmmm
the bourne supremacy fight scenes were ever so slightly easier to follow than the ones in batman, however, they were shakier...
but that's besides the point. No one goes to see the batman movie for the fight scenes unless theyre a total fucking retard. it's the whole movie that's excellent, not the fight scenes...
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2005 21:47 Post subject: |
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| Cheez-It wrote: | to the guy talking about the batmobile: think before posting. Note how it was perfectly explained. How the fuck would a rich millionaire inconspicuously get a batmobile similar to the one of earlier generations? ludicrous. I chose utility of a little better aesthetics any day...
hmmm
the bourne supremacy fight scenes were ever so slightly easier to follow than the ones in batman, however, they were shakier...
but that's besides the point. No one goes to see the batman movie for the fight scenes unless theyre a total fucking retard. it's the whole movie that's excellent, not the fight scenes... |
Batman is a kiddie movie, they tried to make the last one look serious. And the batmobile is still a fucking retarded modded-wheelchair. I dont care what they explain, I like the classic batmobile better.
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Sep 2005 22:53 Post subject: |
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| feyenoord4ever wrote: | | Cheez-It wrote: | to the guy talking about the batmobile: think before posting. Note how it was perfectly explained. How the fuck would a rich millionaire inconspicuously get a batmobile similar to the one of earlier generations? ludicrous. I chose utility of a little better aesthetics any day...
hmmm
the bourne supremacy fight scenes were ever so slightly easier to follow than the ones in batman, however, they were shakier...
but that's besides the point. No one goes to see the batman movie for the fight scenes unless theyre a total fucking retard. it's the whole movie that's excellent, not the fight scenes... |
Batman is a kiddie movie, they tried to make the last one look serious. And the batmobile is still a fucking retarded modded-wheelchair. I dont care what they explain, I like the classic batmobile better. |
Talk about kiddie movies! 
I won't even bring up Batman Forever and Batman & Robin where the villians looked like clowns :\
Sin City was original (stylish), but it was too cheesy. Marv was shot around 109.4 times and he managed to survive (I know it's the comix but who cares!)... + He was hit by a car that was going 240kph like 4 times. :\
Dwight Owen jumped from the 9th floor and nothing happend. (I know it's the comix but who cares!)... (He was falling like 6 seconds and it looked noobish  )
The acting was cheesy aswell. I expected something better. Rourke was nothing special :O I can't believe some moron predicted that Rourke will be nominated for Best Supporting Actor! Fucking retards.
Alba sucked as usual (no surprise here...). The chemistry between Alba and Willis was sooooo unbelievable! HELL! The chemistry between Shaggy and Scooby-doo was more believable!
I know it's a movie, I know it's based on the comix, but they should of made the action more realistic/watchable (I got bored from their so called 'action' after 30 mins)...
The style of the movie was amazing - can't argue here
If you wanna watch a non-kiddie movie watch some Once Upon a Time in America, cause Sin City is as kiddie as Batman 
P.S. I disagree nouseforaname. This movie is AMAZING, very good. But not best of 2005 + 2005 isn't finished yet
Crash was better (released in 2005).
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2005 03:33 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | The Bourne movies are 2 of my favourites...the fight scene's arent blurred to me...and as for the storyline, ya ur right...but I also read all the books...The Bourne Identity, The Bourne Supremecy and The Bourne Ultimatum by Robert Ludlum
The movies differ from the books a lil bit...but all the info left out of part 2 (alot) i just filled in the rest ya know
Still, im gunna watch The Bourne Supremecy after i watch Rome at 9...gunna look to see if its blurred as much as u say
Either which way, they blur it out because they guys cant really fight and usually a double
Matt Damon has no martial arts training...same with Christian Bale (batman)...for batman, they really should have got someone who has martial arts (whether it be hollywood martial arts or real martial arts)skill rather than who they used...the only movies I like that Christian Bale stars in is The Machinist and American Psycho |
I was not referring to both Bourne movies. The first one is maybe among the most interesting action movies of the last 5 years, original, clever and fast paced. I loved it. I found the second one totally horrible and was majorly disappointed by both the story and the directing.
You're right, scenes are blurry when the actor wouldn't look that good doing martial arts moves. What is strange is that Bale also casts in Equilibrium, where you can easily see many, fantastic fighting scenes which are not blurry at all. And surely the guy is coordinated in movements. I'm wondering if it wasn't just the "Batman effect", so to speak: I'm batman, so it's not very important for you to see how I specifically hit the meanies, as long as my cape flies around and I do cool, tough sounds while beating them.
Maybe Nolan wanted to show that Batman "owns" without showing you every move or blow. Christian Bale may not have a great martial arts background, but I've seen worse actors looking damn good with little if no athletic preparation, when the cameras allow it.
As I said, I didn't like Nolan's choice anyway.
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| The Wronged wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | The Bourne movies are 2 of my favourites...the fight scene's arent blurred to me...and as for the storyline, ya ur right...but I also read all the books...The Bourne Identity, The Bourne Supremecy and The Bourne Ultimatum by Robert Ludlum
The movies differ from the books a lil bit...but all the info left out of part 2 (alot) i just filled in the rest ya know
Still, im gunna watch The Bourne Supremecy after i watch Rome at 9...gunna look to see if its blurred as much as u say
Either which way, they blur it out because they guys cant really fight and usually a double
Matt Damon has no martial arts training...same with Christian Bale (batman)...for batman, they really should have got someone who has martial arts (whether it be hollywood martial arts or real martial arts)skill rather than who they used...the only movies I like that Christian Bale stars in is The Machinist and American Psycho |
I was not referring to both Bourne movies. The first one is maybe among the most interesting action movies of the last 5 years, original, clever and fast paced. I loved it. I found the second one totally horrible and was majorly disappointed by both the story and the directing.
You're right, scenes are blurry when the actor wouldn't look that good doing martial arts moves. What is strange is that Bale also casts in Equilibrium, where you can easily see many, fantastic fighting scenes which are not blurry at all. And surely the guy is coordinated in movements. I'm wondering if it wasn't just the "Batman effect", so to speak: I'm batman, so it's not very important for you to see how I specifically hit the meanies, as long as my cape flies around and I do cool, tough sounds while beating them.
Maybe Nolan wanted to show that Batman "owns" without showing you every move or blow. Christian Bale may not have a great martial arts background, but I've seen worse actors looking damn good with little if no athletic preparation, when the cameras allow it.
As I said, I didn't like Nolan's choice anyway. |
I dunno, thats one thing that chaps my ass off man. Like take the Matrix, Keanu Reeves does the worst job when it comes to fighting...like he drops his hands when he kicks, his stances are all wrong etc etc
I dunno, as a martial artist, I notice the little things when it comes to fighting.
Too bad steven segal isnt a good actor - he's an amazing martial artist (7th Dan Aikido and ONLY white guy to open up and have a successful Dojo in Japan) and when u watch his movies, u can see his flow and his legs and everything works in a fluid motion - which is what martial arts is all about.
The Bourne movies on the other hand, must have had a hapkido or some kinda lock specialist traning Matt Damon before the movie for a while...just the way, in some scenes, he grabs the hands at the control point (in between ur thumb and index finger and inbetween ur ring finger and pinky finger, slightly lower than between the knuckles), he strikes to the pressure points and the pen fighting...amazing as pens are probably one of the most legal, dangerous things u can carry - a bic saved my life, well saved me from a beating, one time
To me, Batman is all about kicking ass and I like to watch well practiced fighting and i dunno, Bale just doesnt have the flow of a martial artist...and thats what batman is ya know?
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| SycoShaman wrote: | I dunno, thats one thing that chaps my ass off man. Like take the Matrix, Keanu Reeves does the worst job when it comes to fighting...like he drops his hands when he kicks, his stances are all wrong etc etc
I dunno, as a martial artist, I notice the little things when it comes to fighting.
Too bad steven segal isnt a good actor - he's an amazing martial artist (7th Dan Aikido and ONLY white guy to open up and have a successful Dojo in Japan) and when u watch his movies, u can see his flow and his legs and everything works in a fluid motion - which is what martial arts is all about.
The Bourne movies on the other hand, must have had a hapkido or some kinda lock specialist traning Matt Damon before the movie for a while...just the way, in some scenes, he grabs the hands at the control point (in between ur thumb and index finger and inbetween ur ring finger and pinky finger, slightly lower than between the knuckles), he strikes to the pressure points and the pen fighting...amazing as pens are probably one of the most legal, dangerous things u can carry - a bic saved my life, well saved me from a beating, one time
To me, Batman is all about kicking ass and I like to watch well practiced fighting and i dunno, Bale just doesnt have the flow of a martial artist...and thats what batman is ya know? |
Oh yes, you can see some classy Kote Gaeshi and Tembin Nage in Seagal's movies, too bad he's a horrible actor. Maybe one of the best modern hollywood martial artist though. Probably Bale doesn't have the flow you're talking about, but Damon doesn't as well. They would've trained Bale if they needed that kind of effect, that's my wild guess. Besides, Batman is no martial artist, he just beats hard and plays the scary, dark guy.
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I dunno, Damon didnt have the flow either, but its the finer points like i said...the way he'd strike and the way he throws someone in a lock - classic combat martial arts
And Segal, yep, he is the best hollywood martial artist...if only the fucker would take some acting classes and get away from his love of making enviromental, save the world type of movies...not to mention he's fuckin huge. I trained with him briefly while he was shooting Exit Wounds in Toronto, simply put, he's fuckin amazing...Im a really good fighter, and when i used to compete I had a well established rep for being brutal and hurting guys with ease....Segal whipped me around like a rag doll...to be honest, i dont think I landed a punch when we sparred 
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