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 Posted: Sun, 1st Sep 2013 01:04 Post subject: Immortality or life after death |
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Do you believe that living on in a person's memory qualifies as immortality? Is this a form of life after death?
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Morphineus
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Sun, 1st Sep 2013 01:35 Post subject: Re: Immortality or life after death |
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No, the chemical reactions in your head that give you the memories has no bearing on if the ones that gave them life are inactive in their bodies.
If nothing else, having memories of how you experienced that person from your point of view only validates you, yourself, are alive still. nothing about them is in your head..all you are experiencing is your viewpoint of how you remember them.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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zmed
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| Posted: Sun, 1st Sep 2013 01:37 Post subject: |
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No, since you personally will be unable to experience anything of their memories. They many remember you, but that hardly helps you to live forever.
And besides, if that was the case then your "immortality" would only last as long as there is a single person alive who remembers you. There will be a time when nobody remembers a single person, no matter how famous they were. There will come a time, when nobody will know the name of Napoleon, Genghis Khan, Hitler, Hammurabi, whatever. Will take a long time, tens of thousands of years maybe, but nobody will be remembered forever. They will be either forgotten, or everyone will die in a global disaster. Isn't exactly "eternal" life.
And of course the fallibility of human memory and judgement comes in. What if you were wrongly convicted of murder, and every single human being on Earth thinks you are a viscious killer, even though you are completely innocent? Will you have an afterlife that is altered to reflect their image of you? Or opinions are divided, and half the people think you were innocent, and the other half thinks you were guilty. Do you get two afterlives?
So in my opinion, no, having people remember me will not benefit me in any useful way after I die. It sure would be nice to know on my death-bed that I did some (preferably nice) thing that will ensure that lots of people will think of me fondly for centuries, but that would just be a comforting thought on my death bed, and nothing beyond that.
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chiv
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| Posted: Sun, 1st Sep 2013 03:13 Post subject: |
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wait, how is this bitching?
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| Posted: Sun, 1st Sep 2013 03:21 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | | wait, how is this bitching? |
+1
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sun, 1st Sep 2013 03:25 Post subject: |
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It would be immortality if I still had full control on those memories, in a virus-like way, slowly spreading to every single synapse of the host's brain and supervising him 24/7 until I have the chance to abduct another, better specimen, possibly an attractive female who is inclined to have wild sex dreams that I can participate to xD
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| Posted: Sun, 1st Sep 2013 06:07 Post subject: |
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No, since you're not physically present to actually live and taste the experience... Why are some of you awake in these ungodly hours?!
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Sun, 1st Sep 2013 06:16 Post subject: |
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| dingo_d wrote: | | No, since you're not physically present to actually live and taste the experience... Why are some of you awake in these ungodly hours?! |
Some are born to see the light, some are born to endless night.
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chiv
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I'd bring up the fact that the earth is round and therefore different timezones exist, but I don't want dingo to accuse me of being a heretic 
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| Posted: Sun, 1st Sep 2013 14:55 Post subject: Re: Immortality or life after death |
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| Rage wrote: | | Do you believe that living on in a person's memory qualifies as immortality? Is this a form of life after death? |
Of course not, that's a nonsense coping mechanism that some people have thought up to make their mortality easier to deal with. Like religion.
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| Posted: Sun, 1st Sep 2013 16:26 Post subject: |
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stop fucking whining!!!!111
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Nalo
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