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CaptainLove




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 14:50    Post subject:
Origin 325a Fighter, the only one that matters! Smile.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 15:20    Post subject:
Just an RSI Aurora for me, but man... while my body is ready I'm worried that my comp isn't and it's going to be a day of tears Laughing
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Mikey5449
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 17:56    Post subject:
I have the Constellation, the Gladiator, and the Retaliator. I hope the latter two are behemoths hehe. I'll take some ss's and post them if they are available in this round, which I hope they are!

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Everything I don't understand is a mental disorder. Laughing

couleur wrote:
If the illegals are drowning its their fault for attempting to cross the river in the first place. Especially the children. /s

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Who cares about gameplay. It's one of the few next-gen looking titles out there so BRING IT ON.
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 18:45    Post subject:
Mikey5449 wrote:
I have the Constellation, the Gladiator, and the Retaliator. I hope the latter two are behemoths hehe. I'll take some ss's and post them if they are available in this round, which I hope they are!

Nope.

Aurora, 300i, Hornet, Freelancer, and Constellation. And hopefully their variants (i.e. 315p, 325a and 350r for the 300-series), but they're not sure whether they can manage that for the initial release.

Gladiator is relatively small, Retaliator is about the same size as Constellation Wink

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/ship-specs
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/faq/hangar-module
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 18:46    Post subject:
MEAN RELEASE DATE-LESS BUMP IS MEAN! Sad
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 18:49    Post subject:
ANOTHER ONE FOR YOU MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!







Okay
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raven_g20




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 18:49    Post subject:
From what ive been reading so far about this game the gist of it is that u pay/fund the game through kickstarter, it gets funded by A LOT and then the creators pay u back by asking more money in order to "fully enjoy" the game?

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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 18:51    Post subject:
raven_g20 wrote:
From what ive been reading so far about this game the gist of it is that u pay/fund the game through kickstarter, it gets funded by A LOT and then the creators pay u back by asking more money in order to "fully enjoy" the game?


No?

You fund the game through Kickstarter, get a copy for yourself, play forever without having to pay another penny. Any purchasable items are all acquired in-game via gameplay. However, get ready for a (well deserved, IMO) pissed-off Paul rant incoming Wink Didn't you pay any attention to the previous pages? Laughing
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 18:58    Post subject:
Looking at the store is not "reading" about the game.
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raven_g20




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 19:27    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
raven_g20 wrote:
From what ive been reading so far about this game the gist of it is that u pay/fund the game through kickstarter, it gets funded by A LOT and then the creators pay u back by asking more money in order to "fully enjoy" the game?


No?

You fund the game through Kickstarter, get a copy for yourself, play forever without having to pay another penny. Any purchasable items are all acquired in-game via gameplay. However, get ready for a (well deserved, IMO) pissed-off Paul rant incoming Wink Didn't you pay any attention to the previous pages? Laughing


Nah kinda browse through it...didnt get into details especially to the one ur referring too...but since u can obtain all these items in-game why do they sell it before game?
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 19:28    Post subject:
To raise more money.
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raven_g20




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 19:30    Post subject:
Greedy much?Smile

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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 19:30    Post subject:
raven_g20 wrote:
Nah kinda browse through it...didnt get into details especially to the one ur referring too...but since u can obtain all these items in-game why do they sell it before game?


Exactly as Paul said; it's just to continue raising money to make the game even better. Some people can use it as a way of getting a head start in the game, others pay more to contribute to the game, but to the best of my knowledge there's nothing bought with real cash has any advantage of the same items earned in game with gameplay and exploration -- just time, that's all Smile

raven_g20 wrote:
Greedy much?Smile


... seriously? Trolling much?
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CaptainLove




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 19:35    Post subject:
Fuck man, wheres the damn module? Pushing and pushing.

I do like the next goal!

Star Citizen will feature an additional flyable ship class, the battlecruiser.
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KaSssss




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 19:37    Post subject:
but what is the point to buy a 15 000 $ ship so ? Laughing
or at least this pack https://robertsspaceindustries.com/store/232-space-marshal-lti
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 19:41    Post subject:
raven_g20 wrote:
Greedy much?Smile

If you *actually* read *anything* you would've seen that there are still more stretch goals to hit. Every time they reach one, they come up with something new to add to the game. Now you may or may not have faith in whether the money actually does go towards the development, but from what we've seen, it does. The motion capture stretch goal for example definitely paid off.

All the money that comes in via the store now, be it new or old backers, goes towards those stretch goals. And we've already hit some pretty awesome ones. The next one for example will give everyone who has pledged now an engine upgrade.
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Tungsten




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 19:46    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
Just the Origin 315p Explorer (with a LTI of course), more than enough for my needs for now Smile


same here, the other ships are tempting but i dont want to fall into the F2P trap
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 19:48    Post subject:
Well, to be completely honest, the motion capture thing might have been something they wanted to add all along. It's really quite impossible to know. You really can only have faith in the developers. I've grown to be too suspicious after all the shit that's been happening these last years :/
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Godmax
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 19:49    Post subject:
All the fuckers that pay more than 50$ are animalfuckers. Why do that? No one knows how good the game will be. In my opinion you shouldn't even pay more than 50-100$ for the best game ever created. Those creater fuckers will just get greedier. Damn bitches!

And on the other hand you might need a week or fucking 2 to get a 100$ ship. So why waste real money? Yeah ok miillionaires don't give a fucking shit Laughing

But fuck me if I pay for a fucking ship that I can get without paying more fucking real dicksucker money!!!
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 19:53    Post subject:


@ kenny: of course it's something they wanted to put in anyway. Having the money now allows them to do so already without having to compromise. Getting things motion captured isn't cheap.
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KaSssss




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 19:55    Post subject:
i hope it will not turn into a pay2win, all these packs are weird, they will add in game bonus and so on later


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 20:02    Post subject:
Godmax wrote:
All the fuckers that pay more than 50$ are animalfuckers. Why do that? No one knows how good the game will be. In my opinion you shouldn't even pay more than 50-100$ for the best game ever created. Those creater fuckers will just get greedier. Damn bitches!

And on the other hand you might need a week or fucking 2 to get a 100$ ship. So why waste real money? Yeah ok miillionaires don't give a fucking shit Laughing

But fuck me if I pay for a fucking ship that I can get without paying more fucking real dicksucker money!!!


It's called donating.

The game could turn out to be dog shit. I'll be pissed but in the end I knew I was donating.
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raven_g20




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 20:12    Post subject:
And you guys HONESTLY think 16mil is not enough for a game? You HONESTLY believe the total game cost, adding everything from production to distribution (which will be handled elsewhere hence costs allocated elsewhere), is going to be equal to that amount?

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MisterBear




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 20:17    Post subject:
If i'm not mistaken they sayd that the whole game will cost them 22(or was it 24)million and at first they just wanted the initial 7(?)million and found some investor for other 15million, which was needed, but they raised more and after that chris decided to try to fund the whole game through crowdfunding. So one would think that they still need to raise 5 or so million dollars for final development cost and at this rate i'm sure it will be no problem. I think it is awesome that 22miliion game can be funded solely through crowdfunding and i hope it will be successful game, so we'll see more of this stuff. Smile


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 20:17    Post subject:
raven_g20 wrote:
And you guys HONESTLY think 16mil is not enough for a game? You HONESTLY believe the total game cost, adding everything from production to distribution (which will be handled elsewhere hence costs allocated elsewhere), is going to be equal to that amount?


CR said he needed at least 20mil to develop the game to the initial state.

Given how expensive games are to develop these days, and how large Star Citizen is - Yes, they need that money.
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 20:21    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
It's called donating.

That.

Difference between this and pCARS for example is just that there's bonuses for donating.

raven_g20 wrote:
And you guys HONESTLY think 16mil is not enough for a game? You HONESTLY believe the total game cost, adding everything from production to distribution (which will be handled elsewhere hence costs allocated elsewhere), is going to be equal to that amount?

COD HAS 300m BUDGETS lol wut

In all seriousness though?

$70k per employee (and no, $70k is not overestimating, trust me), per year - let's assume 2 years for now (although it's really 3, since they started in 2011). 16000000/140000 = 114 people for 2 years. And that's not including rent, outsourcing the website, utility costs, and so on - all for 2 years. And one of the stretch goals was to actually build their own sound studio, which is a larger one-time investment but in the long term will be cheaper than renting one for limited time. And they have that now.

I think you underestimate it hugely. The budgets reported for CoD, Halo and such are plain lies, but between 25 and 35 million is pretty normal for an AAA title (DICE and Valve reportedly spent somewhere in that region on pure development for BF3 and HL2)
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frogster




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 20:22    Post subject:
Godmax wrote:
All the fuckers that pay more than 50$ are animalfuckers. Why do that? No one knows how good the game will be. In my opinion you shouldn't even pay more than 50-100$ for the best game ever created. Those creater fuckers will just get greedier. Damn bitches!

And on the other hand you might need a week or fucking 2 to get a 100$ ship. So why waste real money? Yeah ok miillionaires don't give a fucking shit Laughing

But fuck me if I pay for a fucking ship that I can get without paying more fucking real dicksucker money!!!



i dont have by any means a great deal of $, but still i donated about 100$. i would have give them even without getting a ship. and if i would have more to give, i would probably give them.
because i feel they deserve it. they are great with details about their baby, and they are pasionate about it. and because of chris.
but still, i doubt anyone else beside maybe old bullfrog team would have got those kind of $ from me.
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Godmax
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 20:57    Post subject:
Yeah ok keep donating but still, the ships will be available anyfuckingways. And it's better to work hard for those fuckerships than just have them at the beginning. I wouldn't like it and I don't like the bitches that have the big ships at the beginning. Especially those Freelancer and shit animals!
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KaSssss




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 20:59    Post subject:
Godmax wrote:
Yeah ok keep donating but still, the ships will be available anyfuckingways. And it's better to work hard for those fuckerships than just have them at the beginning. I wouldn't like it and I don't like the bitches that have the big ships at the beginning. Especially those Freelancer and shit animals!


+1 for me it's called pay2win
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Aug 2013 21:15    Post subject:
Godmax wrote:
Yeah ok keep donating but still, the ships will be available anyfuckingways. And it's better to work hard for those fuckerships than just have them at the beginning. I wouldn't like it and I don't like the bitches that have the big ships at the beginning. Especially those Freelancer and shit animals!


Seriously are you 16 or so? Try to communicate in a lesser juvenile way. I don't mind a fuck here or there, but you are taking away the effect a proper fuck has...

Also... it makes you sound like a social reject rather than the 'cool' you are trying to pull off.

(And please read proper, I said make you sound not saying you are...)

*Edit* Sorry for the bump Sabin Sad Razz
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