[Next Gen] The Next Generation Discussion Thread!
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 21:05    Post subject:
Thats why i said i'll wait Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 21:08    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
What i'm gonna do is wait a good while before buying anything. There seems to be a shitload of exclusivity this generation, whether or not this is just a launch thing remains unknown, so i'm gonna wait it out in the beginning.

I will most likely wait until one console is hacked though Razz


Right on. 90% of the game I want to play have been announced for current gen consoles. The interesting next gen ones are way out there in the future. So there's no need to jump on the early adopters wagon for 1 year.

I'd rather get a wii-U than a xone/ps4 at launch (witch I'm considering doing later this year as Pikmen 3 looks great) especially if the rumours about it being hacked are true.


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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 21:11    Post subject:
i never had a console on launch but always wanted to. now i have means to do so and will definitely day1 a ps4 Very Happy
can hardly wait to unbox the fucker
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 21:12    Post subject:
agree, size and stuff is just nitpicking, I'm also really happy both went a good route with the controller. (Finally the ps seems to have a good controller!! Smile)

As launch lineup goes, I think Ryse will be better than expected and Dead Rising 3 looks like great fun imo. Never really liked Killzone, 2+3 weren't that good imo, so I'm really not looking forward to 4 (while it looks good graphically of course). That's why ill get an x1 at launch and a ps4 in the 12 month following that probably.
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 21:15    Post subject:
i agree xbone launch line up seems better, but sony exclusives never disappoint.
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 21:28    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
i agree xbone launch line up seems better, but sony exclusives never disappoint.

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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 21:45    Post subject:
i try not to Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 00:21    Post subject:
It may be just me but if I had my wish there'd never be a next gen. I'd be more than happy to just keep pirating 360 games and paying for the rare PS3 exclusive I want. I will eventually have to buy a next gen system just to play the new games but that's the only reason, not because I'm all excited about more power. The graphics this gen are fine.
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 00:57    Post subject:
NoSoul wrote:
It may be just me but if I had my wish there'd never be a next gen. I'd be more than happy to just keep pirating 360 games and paying for the rare PS3 exclusive I want. I will eventually have to buy a next gen system just to play the new games but that's the only reason, not because I'm all excited about more power. The graphics this gen are fine.


graphics are very dated now.
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 01:33    Post subject:
jaapie18 wrote:
NoSoul wrote:
It may be just me but if I had my wish there'd never be a next gen. I'd be more than happy to just keep pirating 360 games and paying for the rare PS3 exclusive I want. I will eventually have to buy a next gen system just to play the new games but that's the only reason, not because I'm all excited about more power. The graphics this gen are fine.


graphics are very dated now.


They look fine to me I would be fine with them for the rest of my life honestly, you can't tell me games like Last of Us don't look incredible. People get too spoiled need something new all the time. I care more about gameplay than graphics.
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 01:59    Post subject:
NoSoul wrote:
jaapie18 wrote:
NoSoul wrote:
It may be just me but if I had my wish there'd never be a next gen. I'd be more than happy to just keep pirating 360 games and paying for the rare PS3 exclusive I want. I will eventually have to buy a next gen system just to play the new games but that's the only reason, not because I'm all excited about more power. The graphics this gen are fine.


graphics are very dated now.


They look fine to me I would be fine with them for the rest of my life honestly, you can't tell me games like Last of Us don't look incredible. People get too spoiled need something new all the time. I care more about gameplay than graphics.


its good but not incredible.
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 02:45    Post subject:
jaapie18 wrote:
NoSoul wrote:
jaapie18 wrote:


graphics are very dated now.


They look fine to me I would be fine with them for the rest of my life honestly, you can't tell me games like Last of Us don't look incredible. People get too spoiled need something new all the time. I care more about gameplay than graphics.


its good but not incredible.


Then you'll think next gen looks incredible for awhile then you'll think it looks dated. I still play games from NES to current gen. Graphics are probably 8th on the important list of a game. That said Last of Us does look incredible and it's sad that many like you buy into the graphic hype that any game doesn't look good enough because the future will always look better. Gameplay should be way more important to any gamer than just graphics.
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 03:24    Post subject:
i often laugh at idiots who say imagine mario on a ps4 or xbox one :drool:
Laughing

It'll look exactly the same as it would on a nintendo console... but for some reason they think that once a game is on a next gen hardware with all the bells and whistles it'll automatically look better.

Style makes a game. Graphics just bring the style into fruition. Then again you could play ps4 on a old SD tv and 99% of the hardcore console crowd will say it looks like a psx game. Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 07:18    Post subject:
NoSoul wrote:
jaapie18 wrote:
NoSoul wrote:


They look fine to me I would be fine with them for the rest of my life honestly, you can't tell me games like Last of Us don't look incredible. People get too spoiled need something new all the time. I care more about gameplay than graphics.


its good but not incredible.


Then you'll think next gen looks incredible for awhile then you'll think it looks dated. I still play games from NES to current gen. Graphics are probably 8th on the important list of a game. That said Last of Us does look incredible and it's sad that many like you buy into the graphic hype that any game doesn't look good enough because the future will always look better. Gameplay should be way more important to any gamer than just graphics.


I agree partially. While imo we are at a point where games just still look good there is still desperate need for improvement in some areas. I mean when the PS2 era ended games looked really bad, same for ps1, but this generation everything still looks kinda satisfying and there are still moments where you think, wow this looks really nice.

HOWEVER aliasing and bad textures are two things that can really take you out of an experience. I mean if you look at a poster and you can barely read it, that sucks. And if every edge is flickering that's irritating too. I hope the "no jaggies" age is finally upon us Wink I don't need more polys or self shadowing of every rock in a game, that won't enhance my experience, I just want to loose the ugly stuff please Wink

And of course more power doesn't only give you graphics it also makes new experiences like last of us possible. Imagine Lou on a PS2, that couldn't have been the same game with the same emotional impact, and I hope the next generation will allow for those new experiences not imaginable on previous hardware. I agree that right now there isn't much anounced in terms of that. Dead Rising is just prettier with more Zombies on screen, Killzone is just a prettier decent shooter, but I hope those new experiences will come 2014 and 2015, my most awaited game right now is quantum break, even though we don't know a lot about it, it seems to really be doing something new...
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 11:44    Post subject:
Not to mention faster loading times. Been playing Skyrim this week, and man, loading time are a bitch! Sad


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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 11:52    Post subject:
cobALT wrote:
Not to mention faster loading times. Been playing Skyrim this week, and man, loading time are a bitch! Sad


omg yes!!!! The loading times, maybe we can get ESVI without loading times when entering a building, it would be awesome if buildings were part of the same world and not their own little levels.
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 17:53    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
i often laugh at idiots who say imagine mario on a ps4 or xbox one :drool:
Laughing

It'll look exactly the same as it would on a nintendo console... but for some reason they think that once a game is on a next gen hardware with all the bells and whistles it'll automatically look better.

Style makes a game. Graphics just bring the style into fruition. Then again you could play ps4 on a old SD tv and 99% of the hardcore console crowd will say it looks like a psx game. Laughing

i always laugh at your dumb posts Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Aug 2013 18:07    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
WaldoJ wrote:
i often laugh at idiots who say imagine mario on a ps4 or xbox one :drool:
Laughing

It'll look exactly the same as it would on a nintendo console... but for some reason they think that once a game is on a next gen hardware with all the bells and whistles it'll automatically look better.

Style makes a game. Graphics just bring the style into fruition. Then again you could play ps4 on a old SD tv and 99% of the hardcore console crowd will say it looks like a psx game. Laughing

i always laugh at your dumb posts Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Aug 2013 20:29    Post subject:
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What It's Like to Have an Xbox One At Home Now (If You Work For Xbox)


http://kotaku.com/what-its-like-to-have-an-xbox-one-at-home-now-if-you-1123195723


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Aug 2013 22:10    Post subject:
maybe they will come to senses and release cheaper version without Shitnect bundled, since core gamers couldn't care less about this gimmicky arms flailing like a retard device.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Aug 2013 23:34    Post subject:
Rumor has it that the ps4 will come out on 21 october
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Aug 2013 00:07    Post subject:
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Rumor has it that the ps4 will come out on 21 october


....not going to say the source of this?

Read this on NeogGAF a few hours ago.

The mod's have allowed the comment he made to stand as apparently he's in a good position as a very large retailer..

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Rumor: Our internal product release schedule from head office dropped yesterday and on Oct 21st an unnamed Sony console will be launched. Fyi all console revisions like the ps360 slims and Wii Mini were listed as ps360 & wii mini. Previously the wiiu, 3ds and vita were also only listed as Nintendo/Sony Console in the product name column.

Disclaimer: I just work at a very large retailer, managing the electronics sales force and nothing more. I have nothing to do with purchasing, nation wide merchandising or shipping. I am not trying to play this off as I have connections at Sony, or I am some sort of insider. It's that just yesterday we received a product release schedule from our head office and I thought this is OT itt. These schedules btw, are for internal use only, designed to allow us time to create our instore merch plans. If the launch date for a product is unknown, it's simply marked TBA. The only time a date is ever included is when we have received confirmation of said date from the product company.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Aug 2013 20:09    Post subject:
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To do that, and in order to meet demand, we have adjusted the number of markets that will receive Xbox One in November to 13 markets, including Australia, Austria, Brazil, Canada, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Mexico, Spain, United Kingdom, United States and New Zealand, in November.

We remain committed to launching Xbox One in Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Norway, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland, as soon as possible in 2014.


http://news.xbox.com/2013/08/xbox-one-confirmed-markets

pwnd


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Aug 2013 20:13    Post subject:
Not pwned if we don't give a flying fuck Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Aug 2013 20:14    Post subject:
M$ is pwnd for shure, Sony will rip em to shreds now (as if anyone had any doubts)


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Aug 2013 20:22    Post subject:
afaik they have done something similar. Reduced units delivered to England for example. Probably doing the same to other countries as well.
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Aug 2013 21:18    Post subject:
KaSssss wrote:
http://www.vg247.com/2013/08/14/xbox-one-pushed-to-2014-in-eight-european-markets/



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The rumor about Xbox One being delayed was at least partially true; Microsoft has announced that eight of the 21 markets they had previously announced would see the new console in November won’t be getting it until next year. Those eight territories are Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Norway, Russia, Sweden and Switzerland. Microsoft says they will get the Xbox One “as soon as possible in 2014.”

Microsoft does feel for those of you who live in those markets and have already ordered a Day One Xbox One edition, and so if you’re one of those people you will get a free game to go with it when it does eventually launch. Those arrangements will be made through the retailer you ordered from.

These delays are being enacted “in order to meet demand,” as well as the need for more time to “work to localize the Xbox One dash, incorporate additional voice and languages, and build partnerships to bring apps and meaningful local content to each country.”


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Oh uhmericans! Since when is Russia a european country/market?

Btw, they can add other european countries to that 2nd class clients list, and I do mean European. Like, in Europe, and some of them in E.U.


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Aug 2013 21:44    Post subject:
KaSssss wrote:
http://www.vg247.com/2013/08/14/xbox-one-pushed-to-2014-in-eight-european-markets/



care to read last posts before adding yours? Rolling Eyes


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