But I couldn't do it anymore, I'm so excited by this game it's unreal. Even though I'm getting older and jaded, I love that I can still get THAT excited by a game.
Still can't make up my mind if I want to pre order or not, I do think I am best off waiting a few months before I buy it, but can I wait?!
I for one, appreciate the new world map. And the way a lot of the UI is cleaned up as much as it can be right? lol Looking forward to this one. Been playing EU3 CKII and V2HOD a fair bit lately
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I fear this game is going to be way too shallow at release to be really worth getting into. Hopefully though they'll lay down some nice foundations for the future.
I've been following the dev diaries and it's a shame they haven't picked up at least a few things from Magna Mundi. Now that game would have been a real hardcore grand strategy, but it never saw light. If their approach towards EU4 is the same or better as it was with CK2 and good modders pick it up this could be very good still.
Players who pre-order Europa Universalis IV will be given a free copy of critically acclaimed strategy/RPG Crusader Kings II, Paradox’s hit title of diplomacy, dynasties, and double-dealing set in the Middle Ages, to add to their own library or to give to a friend.
Players who pre-order Europa Universalis IV will be given a free copy of critically acclaimed strategy/RPG Crusader Kings II, Paradox’s hit title of diplomacy, dynasties, and double-dealing set in the Middle Ages, to add to their own library or to give to a friend.
Your forgetting the CK2 --> EU IV converter. Could maybe be fun playing a little lord up to he got a couple of lands and then convert. If its only after a full game of CK2 and mega blobs of doom then it has no value for me atleast.
Your forgetting the CK2 --> EU IV converter. Could maybe be fun playing a little lord up to he got a couple of lands and then convert. If its only after a full game of CK2 and mega blobs of doom then it has no value for me atleast.
they had a stream online yesterday where they showed it and answered questions.
you can convert any CK2 game at any point in the game, even right at the start.
It'll all get frozen in time and resume at 1444 or whenever EU4 starts and pretty much everything is converted like religions, leaders, flags, etc.
it can also be modded to support converting from CK2 mods
so you can convert a game with the mongol horde arriving or whatever you want. it's pretty cool.
Smikis. wrote:
if it werent for 20 dlcs, then ck2 would been good offer, but now bleh
you get a lot of fixes and updates in the patches too though, the DLCs themselves aren't really necessary to enjoy the game unless you need to play pagans and muslims or something.
also it is a free game.... which is better than no free game. and you get a key that you can give away in case you already have the game. so it's really nice imo.
I already have CK2 but I have some friends who would like to try it out for sure.
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Your forgetting the CK2 --> EU IV converter. Could maybe be fun playing a little lord up to he got a couple of lands and then convert. If its only after a full game of CK2 and mega blobs of doom then it has no value for me atleast.
they had a stream online yesterday where they showed it and answered questions.
you can convert any CK2 game at any point in the game, even right at the start.
It'll all get frozen in time and resume at 1444 or whenever EU4 starts and pretty much everything is converted like religions, leaders, flags, etc.
it can also be modded to support converting from CK2 mods
so you can convert a game with the mongol horde arriving or whatever you want. it's pretty cool.
Cheers that sounds fantastic! And now to play some CK2 to have some fun starts
Where have you guys bought it? Looking for a cheap key (extreme or not).
I'll wait for the isodemo. That will be the deciding factor.
No reason to be on the fence with this title. Very nice preorder bonuses also.
Only played an hour, love everything so far, well except the battles.
Now ping pong is dead and buried it gets even more winner takes all. There is no fronts, just mega stacks (well if you want to win that is). I would love a retreat system that actually works, something like defensive in depth instead of the meat grinder system.
Now way i'm ever buying a paradox game:
full price for an indie title.
0 day dlc, and at leas 5 dlc in the future + al kinds of small units dlc etc.
Buying everything cost over a 100 $, so isodemo it is.
It is a shame that it this game is steam only, makes patching a little harder, but i quess there will be cracked patches.
Looking forward to the game though, a lot of good improvements, most in trade en AI
If you are into these games it's not expensive at all. Even with all the DLC, the amount of game time I get out of it is worth the price (well talking of CKII and HoI).
I just don't got a lot of funds atm to pre-order it because otherwise it was a no brainer.
Paradox always delivered for me. And if you want you can easily play without DLC, which I have done with all their games I played.
Oh noes, they're an indie company. Now I obviously can't pay full price for any game from them just because of a silly label.
The indie thing is only a reminder: this game is made by a small team, and in general those games are under 25$, appearently one can make a living this way, so i don't see why pardox can't.
Money is not the issue for me though
Full price=Full game, I hate it when companies try to squeeze the most money out of people with dlc, and therefore they lost my sympathy.
So I don't feel a need to support them with a purchase, that's the only reason why i buy sp games anyway, support the devs for making games.
- The Demo of the empire building game Europa Universalis IV allows you to play as one of the four nations below through 28 years of history.
- All single player capabilities as well as an extensive tutorial and hint-system are included in this demo.
- There are no multiplayer capabilities, and please note that the ability to save & load have been disabled.
- English only and Windows only.
Trade/Venice
Venice was a prominent Italian Free City and played an important role in Mediterranean trade. Their fleet was important for gaining dominance over the Mediterranean Sea and securing the spice trade from India. Venice is a good choice for playing the trading game and seizing trade opportunities in the Mediterranean.
Warfare/The Ottoman Empire
The Ottoman Empire was a major power up to its fall in 1922. The Ottomans dominated land from the Balkans to the Arabian Peninsula. In Europa Universalis IV they are a strong choice for playing a warmonger game because of their cheaper coring costs and powerful early troops.
Colonization/Portugal
Portugal is a natural choice for exploring the colonization part of the game. The nation was important in the exploration of the coast of Africa and the New World. Portugal lies isolated in the western part of the Iberian Peninsula and lacks natural enemies. As long as they keep good relations with Castile they should be able to peacefully explore and colonize.
Diplomacy/Austria
Austria was a major power through the renaissance and up to World War I. The Habsburg family ruled Austria and controlled the Holy Roman Empire for a large part of its existence. Diplomacy is important for keeping the title of Holy Roman Emperor, as it is an elective title. Keeping good relations with the electors will greatly improve your chances of keeping the crown. Austria is a strong choice for a diplomatic game because of their inclination towards holding the title of Emperor.
great choices for nations to play, but only 28 years!
a little conquest as the turks, and maybe even as austria. certainly get some exploration done as portugal and perhaps even a colony or two in brazil. the whole new trade system though as venice, i'm wondering how that's going to work out.
unlike the game at release, you're forced to start at 1492. which is an okay date, but i'd of prefered the 1444 date or whenever it is
as far as i can tell, the whole game is there. history file for holland for example span the entire game length, the event file for england is packed and the same goes for all the decision files.
too bad i can't get the thing to work properly. all of europe is under permanent fog of war
- The Demo of the empire building game Europa Universalis IV allows you to play as one of the four nations below through 28 years of history.
- All single player capabilities as well as an extensive tutorial and hint-system are included in this demo.
- There are no multiplayer capabilities, and please note that the ability to save & load have been disabled.
- English only and Windows only.
Trade/Venice
Venice was a prominent Italian Free City and played an important role in Mediterranean trade. Their fleet was important for gaining dominance over the Mediterranean Sea and securing the spice trade from India. Venice is a good choice for playing the trading game and seizing trade opportunities in the Mediterranean.
Warfare/The Ottoman Empire
The Ottoman Empire was a major power up to its fall in 1922. The Ottomans dominated land from the Balkans to the Arabian Peninsula. In Europa Universalis IV they are a strong choice for playing a warmonger game because of their cheaper coring costs and powerful early troops.
Colonization/Portugal
Portugal is a natural choice for exploring the colonization part of the game. The nation was important in the exploration of the coast of Africa and the New World. Portugal lies isolated in the western part of the Iberian Peninsula and lacks natural enemies. As long as they keep good relations with Castile they should be able to peacefully explore and colonize.
Diplomacy/Austria
Austria was a major power through the renaissance and up to World War I. The Habsburg family ruled Austria and controlled the Holy Roman Empire for a large part of its existence. Diplomacy is important for keeping the title of Holy Roman Emperor, as it is an elective title. Keeping good relations with the electors will greatly improve your chances of keeping the crown. Austria is a strong choice for a diplomatic game because of their inclination towards holding the title of Emperor.
great choices for nations to play, but only 28 years!
a little conquest as the turks, and maybe even as austria. certainly get some exploration done as portugal and perhaps even a colony or two in brazil. the whole new trade system though as venice, i'm wondering how that's going to work out.
unlike the game at release, you're forced to start at 1492. which is an okay date, but i'd of prefered the 1444 date or whenever it is
as far as i can tell, the whole game is there. history file for holland for example span the entire game length, the event file for england is packed and the same goes for all the decision files.
too bad i can't get the thing to work properly. all of europe is under permanent fog of war
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