Europa Universalis IV
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Moshi




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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jul 2013 11:57    Post subject:
Some long ass previews:









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BLuNT318




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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Jul 2013 20:32    Post subject:
4th one is up now too Razz


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mvp




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jul 2013 08:13    Post subject:
Sweet, something to pass the time at work Smile
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Imoen




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jul 2013 14:15    Post subject:
I've tried to postpone watching these videos -

But I couldn't do it anymore, I'm so excited by this game it's unreal. Even though I'm getting older and jaded, I love that I can still get THAT excited by a game. Very Happy

Still can't make up my mind if I want to pre order or not, I do think I am best off waiting a few months before I buy it, but can I wait?!
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locke89




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jul 2013 14:30    Post subject:
Who knows, it actually might be the best strategy game of this year. Can't wait.
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Imoen




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jul 2013 15:40    Post subject:
It looks and plays like EU 3, but on the other hand it has many new great looking changes. Been watching videos for 3 hours straight, love it Very Happy
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BLuNT318




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jul 2013 20:52    Post subject:
I for one, appreciate the new world map. And the way a lot of the UI is cleaned up as much as it can be right? lol Looking forward to this one. Been playing EU3 CKII and V2HOD a fair bit lately


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Muki




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jul 2013 00:21    Post subject:
I fear this game is going to be way too shallow at release to be really worth getting into. Hopefully though they'll lay down some nice foundations for the future.

I've been following the dev diaries and it's a shame they haven't picked up at least a few things from Magna Mundi. Now that game would have been a real hardcore grand strategy, but it never saw light. If their approach towards EU4 is the same or better as it was with CK2 and good modders pick it up this could be very good still.
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Doh!




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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Jul 2013 00:26    Post subject:
So where are people buying this? Always unsure of those key sites :/

With the delay of Age of Wonders 3 and Wasteland 2 this better be good...


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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Jul 2013 01:13    Post subject:
Players who pre-order Europa Universalis IV will be given a free copy of critically acclaimed strategy/RPG Crusader Kings II, Paradox’s hit title of diplomacy, dynasties, and double-dealing set in the Middle Ages, to add to their own library or to give to a friend.
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Doh!




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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Jul 2013 01:52    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
Players who pre-order Europa Universalis IV will be given a free copy of critically acclaimed strategy/RPG Crusader Kings II, Paradox’s hit title of diplomacy, dynasties, and double-dealing set in the Middle Ages, to add to their own library or to give to a friend.


Your forgetting the CK2 --> EU IV converter. Could maybe be fun playing a little lord up to he got a couple of lands and then convert. If its only after a full game of CK2 and mega blobs of doom then it has no value for me atleast.
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Smikis.




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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Jul 2013 02:00    Post subject:
if it werent for 20 dlcs, then ck2 would been good offer, but now bleh
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Surray




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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Jul 2013 10:38    Post subject:
Doh! wrote:
Your forgetting the CK2 --> EU IV converter. Could maybe be fun playing a little lord up to he got a couple of lands and then convert. If its only after a full game of CK2 and mega blobs of doom then it has no value for me atleast.


they had a stream online yesterday where they showed it and answered questions.
you can convert any CK2 game at any point in the game, even right at the start.
It'll all get frozen in time and resume at 1444 or whenever EU4 starts and pretty much everything is converted like religions, leaders, flags, etc.
it can also be modded to support converting from CK2 mods

so you can convert a game with the mongol horde arriving or whatever you want. it's pretty cool.



Smikis. wrote:
if it werent for 20 dlcs, then ck2 would been good offer, but now bleh


you get a lot of fixes and updates in the patches too though, the DLCs themselves aren't really necessary to enjoy the game unless you need to play pagans and muslims or something.
also it is a free game.... which is better than no free game. and you get a key that you can give away in case you already have the game. so it's really nice imo.
I already have CK2 but I have some friends who would like to try it out for sure.


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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Jul 2013 12:13    Post subject:
Aah looks great, never played an UE game only played crusader kings and hearts of iron games. But going to change that with this release Very Happy


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Doh!




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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Jul 2013 14:10    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
Doh! wrote:
Your forgetting the CK2 --> EU IV converter. Could maybe be fun playing a little lord up to he got a couple of lands and then convert. If its only after a full game of CK2 and mega blobs of doom then it has no value for me atleast.


they had a stream online yesterday where they showed it and answered questions.
you can convert any CK2 game at any point in the game, even right at the start.
It'll all get frozen in time and resume at 1444 or whenever EU4 starts and pretty much everything is converted like religions, leaders, flags, etc.
it can also be modded to support converting from CK2 mods

so you can convert a game with the mongol horde arriving or whatever you want. it's pretty cool.


Cheers that sounds fantastic! And now to play some CK2 to have some fun starts Very Happy

Where have you guys bought it? Looking for a cheap key (extreme or not).
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Imoen




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 14:41    Post subject:
!!!! Very Happy
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zmed




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 15:09    Post subject:
I'll wait for the isodemo. That will be the deciding factor.
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Doh!




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 15:57    Post subject:
zmed wrote:
I'll wait for the isodemo. That will be the deciding factor.


No reason to be on the fence with this title. Very nice preorder bonuses also.

Only played an hour, love everything so far, well except the battles.

Now ping pong is dead and buried it gets even more winner takes all. There is no fronts, just mega stacks (well if you want to win that is). I would love a retreat system that actually works, something like defensive in depth instead of the meat grinder system.
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mtj




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 16:40    Post subject:
An hacks yet for the demo? ie. remove date limit, or play any country etc. Like there was for CK2


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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 17:24    Post subject:
Bah, too broke to pre-order


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friketje




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 18:31    Post subject:
Now way i'm ever buying a paradox game:
full price for an indie title.
0 day dlc, and at leas 5 dlc in the future + al kinds of small units dlc etc.
Buying everything cost over a 100 $, so isodemo it is.

It is a shame that it this game is steam only, makes patching a little harder, but i quess there will be cracked patches.

Looking forward to the game though, a lot of good improvements, most in trade en AI

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/content.php?1543-Europa-Universalis-IV-Developer-diary-43-Artificially-Improved&s=11a5840caf26b26eb7167275ff0c2551
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Pixieking




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 18:34    Post subject:
There's retail discs of it, too... And, if it's available only on Steam, then the retail discs will have Steam keys.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Europa-Universalis-IV-PC-DVD/dp/B00DQKB6EK

Not the cheapest game ever, but worth keeping an eye on Amazon and the like in the future. Smile


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mtj




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 18:37    Post subject:
Pixieking wrote:
There's retail discs of it, too... And, if it's available only on Steam, then the retail discs will have Steam keys.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Europa-Universalis-IV-PC-DVD/dp/B00DQKB6EK

Not the cheapest game ever, but worth keeping an eye on Amazon and the like in the future. Smile


It's steam only title.
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 18:53    Post subject:
Oh noes, they're an indie company. Now I obviously can't pay full price for any game from them just because of a silly label.
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 19:12    Post subject:
If you are into these games it's not expensive at all. Even with all the DLC, the amount of game time I get out of it is worth the price (well talking of CKII and HoI).

I just don't got a lot of funds atm to pre-order it because otherwise it was a no brainer.

Paradox always delivered for me. And if you want you can easily play without DLC, which I have done with all their games I played.


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friketje




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 19:13    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
Oh noes, they're an indie company. Now I obviously can't pay full price for any game from them just because of a silly label.


The indie thing is only a reminder: this game is made by a small team, and in general those games are under 25$, appearently one can make a living this way, so i don't see why pardox can't.
Money is not the issue for me though
Full price=Full game, I hate it when companies try to squeeze the most money out of people with dlc, and therefore they lost my sympathy.
So I don't feel a need to support them with a purchase, that's the only reason why i buy sp games anyway, support the devs for making games.
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Imoen




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 19:14    Post subject:
Indie game lmao. I do agree somewhat on their dlc system though. But these games from Paradox is more than worth 40 euro.

Not only are the games unique and gives you something different and deep. The replayability is INSANE.
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flyme




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 19:35    Post subject:
some demo info...

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?706528-Europa-Universalis-IV-Demo-description

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- The Demo of the empire building game Europa Universalis IV allows you to play as one of the four nations below through 28 years of history.
- All single player capabilities as well as an extensive tutorial and hint-system are included in this demo.
- There are no multiplayer capabilities, and please note that the ability to save & load have been disabled.
- English only and Windows only.

Trade/Venice
Venice was a prominent Italian Free City and played an important role in Mediterranean trade. Their fleet was important for gaining dominance over the Mediterranean Sea and securing the spice trade from India. Venice is a good choice for playing the trading game and seizing trade opportunities in the Mediterranean.

Warfare/The Ottoman Empire
The Ottoman Empire was a major power up to its fall in 1922. The Ottomans dominated land from the Balkans to the Arabian Peninsula. In Europa Universalis IV they are a strong choice for playing a warmonger game because of their cheaper coring costs and powerful early troops.

Colonization/Portugal
Portugal is a natural choice for exploring the colonization part of the game. The nation was important in the exploration of the coast of Africa and the New World. Portugal lies isolated in the western part of the Iberian Peninsula and lacks natural enemies. As long as they keep good relations with Castile they should be able to peacefully explore and colonize.

Diplomacy/Austria
Austria was a major power through the renaissance and up to World War I. The Habsburg family ruled Austria and controlled the Holy Roman Empire for a large part of its existence. Diplomacy is important for keeping the title of Holy Roman Emperor, as it is an elective title. Keeping good relations with the electors will greatly improve your chances of keeping the crown. Austria is a strong choice for a diplomatic game because of their inclination towards holding the title of Emperor.


great choices for nations to play, but only 28 years!

a little conquest as the turks, and maybe even as austria. certainly get some exploration done as portugal and perhaps even a colony or two in brazil. the whole new trade system though as venice, i'm wondering how that's going to work out.

unlike the game at release, you're forced to start at 1492. which is an okay date, but i'd of prefered the 1444 date or whenever it is

as far as i can tell, the whole game is there. history file for holland for example span the entire game length, the event file for england is packed and the same goes for all the decision files.

too bad i can't get the thing to work properly. all of europe is under permanent fog of war Sad
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mtj




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 20:03    Post subject:
flyme wrote:
some demo info...

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?706528-Europa-Universalis-IV-Demo-description

Quote:
- The Demo of the empire building game Europa Universalis IV allows you to play as one of the four nations below through 28 years of history.
- All single player capabilities as well as an extensive tutorial and hint-system are included in this demo.
- There are no multiplayer capabilities, and please note that the ability to save & load have been disabled.
- English only and Windows only.

Trade/Venice
Venice was a prominent Italian Free City and played an important role in Mediterranean trade. Their fleet was important for gaining dominance over the Mediterranean Sea and securing the spice trade from India. Venice is a good choice for playing the trading game and seizing trade opportunities in the Mediterranean.

Warfare/The Ottoman Empire
The Ottoman Empire was a major power up to its fall in 1922. The Ottomans dominated land from the Balkans to the Arabian Peninsula. In Europa Universalis IV they are a strong choice for playing a warmonger game because of their cheaper coring costs and powerful early troops.

Colonization/Portugal
Portugal is a natural choice for exploring the colonization part of the game. The nation was important in the exploration of the coast of Africa and the New World. Portugal lies isolated in the western part of the Iberian Peninsula and lacks natural enemies. As long as they keep good relations with Castile they should be able to peacefully explore and colonize.

Diplomacy/Austria
Austria was a major power through the renaissance and up to World War I. The Habsburg family ruled Austria and controlled the Holy Roman Empire for a large part of its existence. Diplomacy is important for keeping the title of Holy Roman Emperor, as it is an elective title. Keeping good relations with the electors will greatly improve your chances of keeping the crown. Austria is a strong choice for a diplomatic game because of their inclination towards holding the title of Emperor.


great choices for nations to play, but only 28 years!

a little conquest as the turks, and maybe even as austria. certainly get some exploration done as portugal and perhaps even a colony or two in brazil. the whole new trade system though as venice, i'm wondering how that's going to work out.

unlike the game at release, you're forced to start at 1492. which is an okay date, but i'd of prefered the 1444 date or whenever it is

as far as i can tell, the whole game is there. history file for holland for example span the entire game length, the event file for england is packed and the same goes for all the decision files.

too bad i can't get the thing to work properly. all of europe is under permanent fog of war Sad


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