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sausje
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Within seconds 75+ degrees with IBT.
NEVER EVER got this during gaming, even when it was 35 degrees outside and my GPU went to ~90 degrees.. (and it's 17 degrees atm outside..)
Not gonna risk my CPU for some stupid test tbh..
With Prime it never went above 65 degrees..
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Aug 2013 18:38 Post subject: |
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was never comfortable with using IBT, i think it's kinda worthless and risky.
always used prime95 (~24 hours) and gaming to confirm my overclock stability, and that works every single time. ppl who claim that IBT can show if you are stable within minutes are full of shit.
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Stige
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Aug 2013 18:42 Post subject: |
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| rgb#000 wrote: | was never comfortable with using IBT, i think it's kinda worthless and risky.
always used prime95 (~24 hours) and gaming to confirm my overclock stability, and that works every single time. ppl who claim that IBT can show if you are stable within minutes are full of shit. |
It is overkill but it's also the fastest way to test stability even remotely reliably.
If you pass 10 IBT on Standard then all you need is some normal use after that to determine if it's stable.
Running Prime95 for 24 hours is even more of a waste of time than 10 Standard IBT runs are, those IBT runs will only take 2-3 minutes.
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Aug 2013 18:53 Post subject: |
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you can pass IBT but fail prime95 after 8 or 12 or 20 hours. there goes your IBT is better theory...
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Stige
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Aug 2013 19:01 Post subject: |
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| rgb#000 wrote: | | you can pass IBT but fail prime95 after 8 or 12 or 20 hours. there goes your IBT is better theory... |
Who cares if you fail Prime after 8, 12 or even 20 hours... The chances of there being any sort of instability in real world use are ZERO.
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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Aug 2013 19:06 Post subject: |
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Meh, both can still run flawless and yet your rig can crash during games 
Have this with a friends PC, during gaming, his PC often bluescreens.
But running stress tests (Prime and furmark at the same time), for hours didn't cause any crash..
Yet random games give bluescreens on random moments 
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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Aug 2013 19:14 Post subject: |
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Well that was kinda my point, because i thought his problem was with the PSU.
But even till this day, with reinstall and drivers change etc.. nothing seems to work and the thing keeps crashing at random moments
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Stige
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 09:09 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | If you want to test stability, run IBT (very high), if it passes 10 rounds its stable in everything. Also BF3 is nice to test out clocks. Prime is not really that good. |
yep will tes ibt as well, though I hear it really heats up haswell. My old q9550 would get into 80's in that app, can't imagine what it will do to haswell
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 15:58 Post subject: |
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Well, i passed 10 runs on standard and high, but very high it starts throtling down. Its possible that if i set fans manualy to highest that it won't, but with fans on auto they can't even spin up fast enough its already 100 C 
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Stige
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 19:52 Post subject: |
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I know, even the cpu hungry ns 2 max temps are 65, but average is sub 50.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Aug 2013 01:32 Post subject: I have left. |
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Stige
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Aug 2013 09:02 Post subject: |
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1.38V for 4.5, damn that makes me even happeir with my chip 
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Aug 2013 12:11 Post subject: I have left. |
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I want an Haswell-E Octacore more than a bigger dick. The octacore future is fucking near do you understand that? I am ready!
But if its more than 500-600$ for that shit then thx no.
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High heat CPU + high pressure heatsink with some CLP is quite susceptible to the CPU cracking due to (although very small) increased size of die (heat does that).
I see no point in removing IHS except for maybe changing the TIM and then put the IHS back. Not sure how a removed IHS is structurally after it has been hacked away though.
All in all the small gains on Haswells simply aren't worth the risk.
I have cracked one die, an Ahtlon XP 1700, where I managed to damage the corner of the die (0.5mm) with the heatsink. Dead.
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That looks like it could be a real nightmare for AMD. Still, it would have been nice to have hyperthreading on that CPU, to have at least 4 threads for multi-threaded games. But you cant have it all, I guess...
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A.K.A you overtight the block/cooler to the naked die, then it starts cracking itself because of the pressure. EK makes naked die mounting kits which prevents overtightening (for blocks). Also for delidded CPU´s, its better just use the IHS after you have removed the glue and shit and replaced TIM (straight contact to die doesnt really give that much better temperatures if you have already replaced the shitty toothpaste which intel uses stock).
