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DXWarlock
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After 20 years smoking, Im quitting and moved to the electronic cigarette type thing to try to cut back.
well so far so good, 2 months without a real cigarette. I started on the gas station disposable ones, and they was good, then got a 'blu' brand kit (was HORRIBLE..waste of money). So finally after buying tons of throw away ones. Went for the real thing.
Anyone here doing this, and got some feedback or tips on a good clearomizer tank type to get?
I want to stay away from the 'drip as you go' types. Since I was a 2 pack a day smoker..and I'd spend WAY too much time re dripping 4-5 drops every 10 minutes..I can drain a 3.5 ml tank in 1/2 a day as it is.
I got one of these a vivi nova and a variable battery:
http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/342/203/466/466203342_950.jpg
I don't mind it, but the vapor output isn't great, and it seems to really mute the flavor of the juice..or just make it taste like ass all together.
Today I picked up this to try, it has a dual coil.
http://www.vaporstation.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/r/e/redux_1.jpg
the draw on it is a lot more like a real cigarette as far as how hard you need to drag on it, the vapor amount is amazing..but even at 3.2 volt setting on my battery, it seems to burn the juice, and ruins the flavor.
So anyone got any input on a good dual coil tank to get?
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 03:16 Post subject: |
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dont get dual coil unless u have a variable voltage and even then it honestly doesnt make ANY difference from my exprience. a PROPERLY coiled single coil will smoke as well if not better than any dual coil....
dont waste money on gas station stuff... I personally decided to just buy one of the best and most famous... its a one time buy with GREAT warranty but even greater build quality and its safety features is just crazy. with the extended battery it lasts through my HEAVY vaping for HOURS....
provape.com and the e cig is provari
now about the tanks... kanger is pretty famous... buddies love it im meh.... i love my vivi nova and its possibly the most famous u'll find. the problem for u sounds to like it would be the juice! try different juice company or better yet make ur own as i do. it took a few tries and now that i got the amounts right the vapor is crazy!
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 03:17 Post subject: |
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and the battery u have is a very entry level.... even though it says variable i wouldnt trust its output consistency.... spend the money on a decent battery.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 03:37 Post subject: |
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well the battery I have isn't the one in the pic...its an ego I think? (not sure the local shop here relabels them as their own name). its not top of the line, buts its not the cheapest one they had.
its this one with their name on it:
http://store.vapeny.com/images/ego%20twist%20black%20XL.jpg
And looked at the provari when I got this..$200 was a bit much for something Im not going to use for more than 4-5 months.
I've tried the local brand juice (whatever theirs is from) and didn't like it, and mt baker..I like mt baker so far..but has to sit a few days so it tastes better.
So far the dual coil one seems to 'last' longer per draw. I tend to still pull like its a real cig, Ill draw on it until the battery timer kicks it off..the single coil i think I dried out the wick before I finished pulling each time is why i got that bitter taste.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 03:46 Post subject: |
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any ohm recommendations for the vivi? maybe I need a different ohm..I got 1.6's with it. maybe thats whats doing it..its burning too hot?
Was worried if I got 2.4 or such it wouldnt heat up enough even on higher voltage of what I got to do anything.
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 03:48 Post subject: |
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huh.. with the vivi nova? dude i have never smoked cigs so i used this as a replacement for shisha/hookah and with that u draq MUCH harder and longer than a cig so trust me when i say i have never dried out my vivi... now for SURE after about a couple pulls i make sure i tip the tank to get the wicks wet again, but to ME personally it sounds liek ur juice is too thick (too much VG juice in there) for that wick... IF ur wick is a longggg one, then try to cut it closer to the top then seperate the stems to make the wick more fluffy... it should help it get wet better... also IF the juice is too thick u can always add some PG juice or just distilled water to it. both VG and PG juice (unflavored) can be bought over the counter at most pharmecies.
Ego Twist is an ok starter set up but I wouldnt use dual coil on it, simply not enough power to use a tank like that on it... u dont have to do provari but do look at one of the bigger batteries
one of the CHEAPER big batteries does doesnt look as good as the provari but does almost the same amount but is about 140 bux cheaper is the Innokin iTaste SVD with Kangertech ProTank-II... around 64 by itself or maybe 85 with the tank!
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 03:49 Post subject: |
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2.4 is all i ever use and my volt is around 3.8 to 4.2
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 03:50 Post subject: |
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but yah at 1.6 u could burn it dry I suppose, higher resistance lets u control the volt going to it since u have a variable
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 03:58 Post subject: |
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Might be that too, all the wicks I get are the super long dangling single wick ones (like a single 3 inch wick pulled thru the coil)..maybe trimming and fluffing would help..didn't think of that. more surface of fibers area near the inlet to the coil.
I appreciate all the input so far. Ive been flying blind and trial and erroring it.
I tried asking at the local shop here for advice, but the people there drive me crazy, why I just go in , get my coils and leave. They have way too much of a "its a exclusive hip club" vibe to e-cigs.
I cant ask them about "whats a good ohm coil to use for 80/20 mixes" without them getting in a 20 minute conversation about signing up for their newsletter, joining them on the weekend for a 'vape out' gathering they have..and trying to get me to buy a t shirt that says "Yes I'm a Vapor!" to proudly state that I'm one.
They seem totally confused when I try to explain I'm just doing it because its cheaper than cigs, slightly healthier, and give me my nicotine fix. 
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 04:06 Post subject: |
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I dont even mix nicotine in mine lol. but yes MUCH cheaper with about 100 bux Im basically stocked for maybe a year or two.
but yah the vivi novas now ONLY come with short wicks....
http://www.stevevape.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/vivi-nova-2.5-title-image.jpg
THATS how u want it to look.
and the shops here I dont bother anymore going in. their attitude is HORRIBLE. Only because im new they act like im a complete moron. And they try to sell u on stuff that conviniently they sell but not others. I mentioned wanting to buy a provari at the ONLY brick and mortar store we have here, the owners response "well then ur a fucking idiot for wanting to waste ur money" no real reason why or whatever, only that i should buy this other one that they sell. then im like I wanna smoke 70/30 VG/PG or even 90/10 and again " no u wanna smoke 50/50 or 30/70"
so i gave up!
if U havent joined yet definitely go to http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/ it is the most used forum for it and u can find reviews and user expriences of every tank u can think of.
I'm pretty new too so i cant give u detailed info on different tanks and systems. U have to find a system that works for u.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 04:51 Post subject: |
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Ah thanks Ill check the site out.
I tried with one of my replacement wicks trimming it to just a bit sticking out and fluffing it. seems to help quite a bit!
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 05:08 Post subject: |
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I got some cheap e-cigs, turns out they didn't produce any nicotine so I was just inhaling nicotine-free vapor. 
Cost me like 35 bucks but still, I should have researched it better....so I'm also in the market for getting some nice e-cig. 
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 05:29 Post subject: |
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Yea Prefetian, I found the gas station/corner store throw away ones are bad..really bad.
the only brand that i kinda liked was 'smart green living' or something like that. they had TONS of vapor and a really good throat hit..and separate cartridges so the battery didn't get tossed too.
Just the 'auto' part of the battery when you pulled after about a week wound randomly quit working.
But after trimming my wick, Im liking the vivi nova tank a lot better. the dual coil smaller one still seems more 'oomph' to it for that hit in my throat I need that cigarettes gave. but might just be me, combined with that my vivi has 1.6 coils..so it just burns the juice more than making good strong hitting vapor.
Going to pick up some 2.4's tomorrow off max's advice and Ill give you some feedback.
if you spent 35 already, id say get one of these ego kits..comes with a vari battery, tank and 2 coils, just to try it out first to see you can get into/use to it, then move to a more permanent kit like im looking for now.
I think Mine was $40, was suppose to be $60 but since I was quitting cigs the guy offered it cheaper if I threw away the pack I had on me..figured what the hell if I don't like it, thats still 20 bucks, I can buy a few new packs of cigs for that..lol. And figured its only $40 to get a starter type, Id spend that in 4-5 days on real cigs that I just burn up..so worst that happens is I dont like it after a few days..and Im in the same place money wise I would be smoking..
Only reason I recommend a cheap 'gateway' kit of sorts is both me and a friend both tried going electronic at the same time, he cant STAND them..so hes glad he didn't drop 100+ on a setup to find out he doesn't like it, but I think its more hes really not ready to quit analog cigs yet, and looking for a reason to go back.
To me the difference between the cheap blu, or gas station types, and a actual kit is MILES in difference.
Will take a few days to get past the "this doesn't taste quite like a cigarette" vibe even with the tobacco flavors..but the nicotine craving gets fulfilled, and once your past the needing to taste the cigarette taste (i did tabacco flavors for a week just so it was easier to transition) , you can get some flavors..
Im loving the strawberry, cinnamon roll, and morning coffee w/cream and sugar ones a LOT now. And a real cig tastes like total ass to me.
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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My roomate smoked 2 packs a day. Cronic smoker like a mother fucker. She's down to 1 pack a week in a matter of 3 weeks using this one.
http://www.v2cigs.com/
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 07:40 Post subject: |
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Yeah,your battery is a e-Go type.I started with a e-Go C retail kit a few months ago,using those standard vaporizer heads.
Bought one of those shortly after http://www.vaporbreak.com/en/vv650-vamo-vv-mod/171-vv650-vamo-v2-body-only-cheapest-ego-apv.html and started to use CE4 vaps on it.
So far,i like the e-Go C stock-vaps more,they produce a lot more flavor than the CE4 types and with the slim batteries its not like carrying a lightsaber around
Edit:i have to check what type my GF uses,that one got fany moveable mouthpice,big ass tank and cheap replacement parts for the atomizer
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 15:09 Post subject: |
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So,my GF uses the iClear 30 Clearomizer combined with the VaMo v2.
Did make her stop smoking regulars (vaping liquid with 16mg Nic for a start)
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 15:12 Post subject: |
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Just go quite smoking pussies, go cold turkey.. 
It's really not THAT hard..
Whenever you feel like having a smoke, just beat that feeling for ~2min and you will be fine again for a few hours..
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 15:23 Post subject: |
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| sausje wrote: | Just go quite smoking pussies, go cold turkey..
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Yes,why wean off and let go slowly when you can suffer and relapse within 2 weeks
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 15:26 Post subject: |
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2 weeks eh? Must be miscounting my ~8 months then now...
It's all about how mentally strong you are and how powerful your will to quit is, nothing more, nothing less 
The physical need for nicotine is only very small compared to the mental need for a smoke.
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 16:07 Post subject: |
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Heh, I tried using an e-cig a few years back before they got really big, now you can buy them at every story you go to.
Kept with it for a few weeks, just to ween myself off of the nicotine. Wasn't too bad, but the taste gets a bit of getting used to. Probably much better these days.
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 16:09 Post subject: |
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U inhale a cigar? It's not super harsh?
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 16:25 Post subject: |
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Actually yes, I inhale(d) every other puff of the cigar. I never found it so harsh, honestly.
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2013 17:25 Post subject: |
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| sausje wrote: | 2 weeks eh? Must be miscounting my ~8 months then now...
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No,you just forgot to read the invisible "in general" after my sentence.Your personal expirience may vary.
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The physical need for nicotine is only very small compared to the mental need for a smoke |
Thats where Vaping does help a lot,you still "smoke" and are somewhat "occupied" with your routine of handling the cigs.
Others start chewing gum,eat like there is no tomorrow,knitting,slapping nic-patches or handle this without the need of a replacement at all.I'd say:whatever it takes to reach your goal.
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Then please, present any fact that going cold turkey doesn't work for most people.
Like i said, the only PROPER addiction is the mental one for smokers.
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