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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Jul 2013 17:00    Post subject:
Ah OK. So there are two FF3 games in English, one being FF6 actually (SNES version) and the other the original Japanese FF3 for handhelds.

One more question: does dolphin auto-detect games and apply the hacks/settings recommended on the wiki?
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Jul 2013 17:09    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Ah OK. So there are two FF3 games in English, one being FF6 actually (SNES version) and the other the original Japanese FF3 for handhelds.


This exactly! Sorry about the confusion, blame Squaresoft. They didn't release FF2/FF3 outside JP for quite a long time, so by the time the SNES came around and the series was already on its 4th outing, Squaresoft simply renamed the next English releases so as to not cause confusion (hahaha....) as to the missing titles in America. FFIV became FF2, America didn't get FFV (Rolling Eyes) and so FFVI became FF3. Go figure. The numbers finally stabilised with the release of the PS1, as not only did FFVII come out as FFVII but Squaresoft also started releasing the "chronicles" and "anthology" releases with the original names restored.

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One more question: does dolphin auto-detect games and apply the hacks/settings recommended on the wiki?


Not automatically from the wiki, no, but if I recall correctly each new Dolphin update does come with a new gamedatabase (like PCSX2) with essential hacks applied.
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Kein
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Jul 2013 18:46    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
One more question: does dolphin auto-detect games and apply the hacks/settings recommended on the wiki?

Only when it is solid-known that game requires some hack that needs to enabled by default. Otherwise the game's ID just contain basic info like, state of emulation.
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Jul 2013 19:35    Post subject:
as for nds/3ds (?) emulation - any good running, worth playing titles?

i already have contra 4, aliens infestation, and castlevania PoR/OoE
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lametta




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Jul 2013 20:36    Post subject:
remyleblau wrote:
as for nds/3ds (?) emulation - any good running, worth playing titles?

i already have contra 4, aliens infestation, and castlevania PoR/OoE


Shin Megami Tensei Devil Survivor -> best SRPG ever even though I hate SRPGS i loved this one

And afaik there is no 3ds emulation yet
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Jul 2013 22:15    Post subject:
remyleblau
Go Metacritic, select platform, sort by high-scores of all time and start looking. Pick a game, see gameplay ,read some reviews. There aren't many trust me. I did that before.
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Jul 2013 01:08    Post subject:
After two hours of Twilight Princess I realized I already played it Sad Fuck my memory.
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nos




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Jul 2013 12:13    Post subject:
remyleblau wrote:
as for nds/3ds (?) emulation - any good running, worth playing titles?

i already have contra 4, aliens infestation, and castlevania PoR/OoE


Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow? I haven't tried OoE but thought that DoS played better than PoR.
There is the Layton games, people seem to love those.
999 gets some good press, I played the sequel and wish I had played 999 first. It's probably not for everybody but it's pretty unique. Read some reviews first.

Then there's the usual, RPGs, Mario, Ace Attorney, Zelda and of course Pokémon, if you like that kind of thing.
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Jul 2013 19:44    Post subject:
nos wrote:
remyleblau wrote:
as for nds/3ds (?) emulation - any good running, worth playing titles?

i already have contra 4, aliens infestation, and castlevania PoR/OoE


Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow? I haven't tried OoE but thought that DoS played better than PoR.
There is the Layton games, people seem to love those.
999 gets some good press, I played the sequel and wish I had played 999 first. It's probably not for everybody but it's pretty unique. Read some reviews first.

Then there's the usual, RPGs, Mario, Ace Attorney, Zelda and of course Pokémon, if you like that kind of thing.


Don't forget Hotel Dusk: Room 215 and its sequel Last Window: The Secret of Cape West.
Those two were pretty interesting and unique (like 999).
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jul 2013 00:43    Post subject:
@sabin1981: any chance you can fix the pics in your guide at page 19 without much effort? I was searching for experiences with FF8 emulation and came by your guide.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jul 2013 11:11    Post subject:
Sure thing, Imageshack turned into a rotten pile of shit Facepalm I kept copies on two other sites, I'll just fix the links.

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Done! Just in case you don't want to go all the way back, here's a quote;

sabin1981 wrote:
Well ok, this is interesting. Seems a few people having issues on properly configuring this wondrous emulator, so I'm here to help! We'll tackle this section by section, just to make sure you've all got a handle on things, hey - I'll even hold your hand and guide you with snazzzzzzzzy pictures too Laughing
Remember though, while "other" emulators are designed for quick-playing, ePSXe is called ENHANCED for a reason. Take the time to configure it properly, as I'm about to show you, and you'll have a faithful emulator for life Razz


I don't want to hear any complaints about "but my machine is too slow!!!!111" - I run ePSXe on my laptop, a Celeron 1200mhz with 128mb RAM shared with a SiS 730S IGP. It runs great using the FAST settings Wink


=Note=

This guide was created quite some time ago and it was made for ePSXe 1.60 and Pete's 2.08 plugins. I'm aware of more recent releases, but they all stay fundamentally the same.


Installation

First, you'll need to download the emulator itself, which can be found HERE. Download and extract it to a folder of your choosing, one named ePSXe would be ideal Razz
Once you've got it "installed", you'll need to find the BIOS image. I'm not going to link to it here, just in case I get my wrist slapped Wink However, a quick Google Search should prove fruitful. Once you've found it, put the file into the BIOS folder of your newly-created ePSXe install.

Next, we need some plugins. I'm a strong advocate of Pete's GPU plugins, as they offer the best compatibility and speed. So I'll be creating this tutorial based on those. Let's get to it! Very Happy

You've got many options, all of which depend on what graphics card you have. For newer nVidia and ATi cards that support PS3.0 (X1k series and 6/7-series respectively) there is simply NO better plugin than Pete's OGL2 - You can grab that HERE. Download that and unzip to your PLUGINS folder.
If you've an older nVidia/ATi card that lacks DX9C (PS3.0) then your choices are either Pete's OGL or Pete's DX7/DX6. You can find all three in one zip, found HERE. Again, extract to PLUGINS folder.

nVidia has much better support for OGL-based plugins, while ATi is the ruler for D3D. You can't damage anything, so feel free to experiment.

Next, we need to get you some SPU and CD plugins. Generic CD/SPU plugins are built-into the emulator, so you won't need to download any of those, however - you'll need a decent SPU plugin as the generic one just isn't good enough for those pesky Square games, hehe
So, the one I highly recommend is Eternal SPU Plugin 1.41 - that has the absolute best and most accurate PSX sound and you can find it HERE. Once again, download and unzip it to your PLUGINS folder.

Ok, you're done with Installation! Now let's get you configured for play!

Configuration

Now for the pretty pictures Smile When you load ePSXe for the first time, it guides you through standard setup by using a Wizard guide. So guess what? We're going to be doing that Smile

Start the Wizard!


Choose your BIOS!


Choose your GPU Plugin!
(I've included screenshots for Software/D3D6/D3D7/OGL/OGL2, aren't I nice?) This is also for looking good with the best compatibility, so if you have a really slow machine, you would be better off using pSX or CVGS. There are two options you can try, if you're not feeling like experimenting or copying my settings. FAST and NICE. Clicking either of those will change settings to run FAST, or look NICE.
Anything with a BOX around it (yay for mspaint) - make sure your settings are the same. Especially in regards to OFF-SCREEN DRAWING!! If you're playing any FF games, you NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED those set to at LEAST Enhanced else you won't get the battle menus.




Configs for SoftwareMode, no Fixes needed
- FAST
- NICE

Configs for D3D/D3D-DX6, with Game Fixes
- FAST
- NICE
- FIXES

Configs for OGL, with Game Fixes
- FAST
- NICE
- FIXES (Same as OGL2)

Configs for OGL2, with Game Fixes - Note, only BEST LOOKING config is shown, because if you're using OGL2, you've got a card that can handle it Laughing
- NICEST (the absolute ePSXe Experience©)
- FIXES

~Update~

Pete has released v2.9 of his awesome OpenGL2 plugin, a few new features and changes were implemented, so I'm including mine here. Game Fixes are the same; 0x002 "Ignore Small Framebuffer Moves" these are for FF7/8 and require Offscreen Drawing set to 1, Framebuffer Effects set to 2 and Framebuffer Upload set to 2. The old FF9 triangle fix (0x0200 G4 Polygon Cache) is no longer used, it's fixed natively. Keep an eye on "Stretching Mode" at the top as well, some people prefer keeping pixel/aspect ratio and don't like stretching, so adjust it per taste Smile If you exhibit scenes with green/purple borders, usually around pre-rendered backdrops, then set Texture Filtering to 4: Extended w/o Sprites. Unfiltered 2D



Choose your SPU! (There's nothing to configure on the ePSXe SPU Core)
- ePSXe SPU Plugin
- Eternal SPU 1.41

Config for Eternal SPU - Eternal is used if you want the most accurate PSX sound.


~Update~

Another update here, especially on ePSXe SPU Core 1.8.0; Most people are quite fine with the new internal ePSXe SPU core, it has come leaps and bounds over previous sound cores and is actually now one of the most accurate. Eternal has more sound enhancements but, just like various other options here, it's taste subjective. If you choose to stick with internal ePSXe you won't be disappointed, I'm sure. The "Choose your SPU" page shows options that are now enabled by default; "Enable CDDA" and "Enable XA" so don't worry about those.


Choose your CD! - Choose the CD/DVD drive you'll be loading your PSX games off. IE, real drive or VirtualDrive.

If running Win2K/WinXP, choose ePSXe CDR NT/2K Core

- Win2K/XP

If running Win9X (95/98/ME), choose ePSXe ASPI Core

- Win9X ASPI

Configure your controller!
Choose Digital/Analog F5 if you have an analogue joypad. Pressing F5 ingame switches between them Smile

- Joypads!

Almost Done!




You're done! Congratulations, you now have a nearly-100% perfect emulator. There, that wasn't so hard, now was it? Razz Just click FILE and then choose to either RUN CD (if you've got a CD in the drive/mounted) or click RUN ISO (to browse for, and run, a .BIN/.IMG/.ISO you may have)

Just remember that certain games are going to have issues no matter how you configure the emulator (Front Mission 3, sadly, is one of them. It has a tendency to crash when doing damage to LEG PARTS in a battle, which is a bug/glitch that happens on any emulator to my knowledge)

-=Clarification=-

In the section where I show how to choose your memory cards, please note that the F: drive path is MY OWN! *laughs* You can use any path you wish - and to create a memory card, simply type it's name however you wish. Once you save a game, ePSXe will automatically create the card for you.

I put a LOT of work into making this guide, so I bloody well hope this helps! Have fun everyone! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Comparison between a properly configured ePSXe and a *coughlamecough* pSX 1.8 setup.
ePSXe 1.60 on the left. pSX 1.8 on the right.







Final Fantasy VIII with pSX and/or PS1 hardware


Final Fantasy VIII with ePSXe using my settings (which can be tweaked to get rid of purple outline on some textures



And, as Leo said, certain games prefer 2D Sprite Filtering to be disabled, which would fix the slight aliasing as evidenced in the text above. Just experiement, you can't break anything! You can even change graphics options "on-the-fly" using Pete's plugin and the "action" keys (insert, home, pg-up, pg-down, end, delete)


I would strongly recommend updating to 1.8.0, a lot was improved and enhanced - including the internal SPU which is incredible now. Really nice FF sound effects, unlike previous internal SPUs which had really terrible sound in FF games.
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Jul 2013 12:26    Post subject:
That's great, thanks man.
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jul 2013 02:40    Post subject:
I'm trying to give the good Splinter Cell Double Agent (PS2) a second chance now that my 360 controller is working again, and everything seems to be quite fine with the SVN r5704, BUT, I'm having some frequent bad framerate drops (from 60fps to ~15) and artifacts here and there that can be quite annoying.

These are from the very beginning, the problems are with Sam's goggles and lighting in general with some vertical stripes:




I've made several tests and changed the options/plugins/enabled compatibility stuff, but I couldn't find a way to get rid of these issues. The internet didn't help either. If someone knows the magic fix (assuming that it exists) gief plox! Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jul 2013 02:52    Post subject:
If you are using dx11 try to use dx9 since it sometimes gives better results and under the gfxplugin setting enable the hw hacks and try the alternate alpha.

Or get the pc version Troll Face
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jul 2013 02:57    Post subject:
Thanks, I tried DX9 as well as OpenGL out of curiosity (with very poor results Laughing ) but sadly the problems are still there, including the framerate drops.
I've also resumed MGS3 to see if there's a problem with my rig, but that worked perfectly fine. Smile

The PC version is currently living in my shiftdelete hell since December 2006 Cool Face. To be honest, I didn't dislike it that much apart from some retarded missions and the horrible port. Still 10 times better than Conviction xD
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jul 2013 17:35    Post subject:
Try skiphack 1,3 or 7
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jul 2013 04:44    Post subject:
Tried them hacks, but unfortunately I still have the same problems. I'll just have to tolerate them. Razz Thanks anyway, though!
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Aug 2013 21:06    Post subject:
Does anyone know if Muramasa: The Demon Blade is playable with Dolphin?

The game looks very interesting and I would like to try it out.


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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Aug 2013 21:06    Post subject:
Yup, it works perfectly, matey Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Aug 2013 21:19    Post subject:
And what about controls? Will I be able to play using x360 controller? Is that compatible with Wiimote?

I will probably need some help with configuring this. I played some GameCube games in the past but never a Wii game.

First things first though, I need to download the game now. Razz


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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Aug 2013 21:33    Post subject:
You'd simply configure the 360 controller as the "Classic Controller" attachment to the Wiimote, it's simple Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Aug 2013 21:41    Post subject:
Oh, OK. I didn't know that. Smile

Thanks for the replies, Sabin.


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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Aug 2013 03:55    Post subject:
I've managed to get this thing up and running. Works surprisingly good.

The graphics are surely impressive at times; beautiful even...



I'll give it more time tomorrow; it's bed time for me now.

Once again thanks for the tip with classic controller attachment, Sabin. That wiimote configuration screen was really giving me a headache...


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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Aug 2013 14:05    Post subject:
When you say "surprisingly good" does that mean you're not getting full speed all the time? Or does it crash, etc? Still .. glad to hear you're enjoying it and yeah, the "classic" attachment is great for those games that support it!
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Aug 2013 14:08    Post subject:
Where is the best place to find roms for mame? I need loads since im building my arcade atm and can't decide what game to run as the main one Razz


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Aug 2013 14:09    Post subject:
We can't link to them grinhurt Just Google for Emuparadise, Nitro, Cool and Nation.
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Aug 2013 14:13    Post subject:
Yeah I know you can't link Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Aug 2013 14:16    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
When you say "surprisingly good" does that mean you're not getting full speed all the time? Or does it crash, etc?

No. Very Happy

By 'surprisingly good' I meant constant 60 fps, no graphical glitches, no crashes, no controls problems, nor anything like that. It just seems too perfect. Surprised


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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Aug 2013 14:38    Post subject:
AHA! I get you Very Happy Yeah, going into emulation of a certain platform for the first time and seeing it running perfectly? That can be surprising Very Happy Well since it's running great, try running the Wii with a larger internal resolution - I tend to run most games with 2.5x or 3x Native res. Go to "GRAPHICS" and then "ENHANCEMENTS" and choose there. I also have "Scaled EFB", "Per-pixel Lighting" and "Widescreen hack" enabled.

Difference between Native and 3x Native Smile You can even force anti-aliasing though some games aren't keen on this and it can result in visual glitches.

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Open in a new tab/window to see the difference properly Smile

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Another example of Native vs 3x.. this time on one of the greatest console RPGs over the last decade and quite possibly ever;

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