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LeoNatan
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 Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2013 14:12 Post subject: Opera announces 'gradual transition' to WebKit |
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Paul and Pump are gonna love this dearly. 
http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/13/3983594/opera-will-shift-to-webkit-rendering
| Quote: | Opera Software has announced that it will move away from its own Presto rendering engine in favor of WebKit, the software engine that powers the Chrome and Safari browsers. "It makes more sense to have our experts working with the open source communities to further improve WebKit and Chromium, rather than developing our own rendering engine further," says CTO Hรฅkon Wium Lie. The company says there will be a "gradual transition" this year to WebKit and Chromium across desktop and mobile.
Details of a WebKit-powered mobile browser from Opera first leaked last month. Dubbed "Ice" at the time, CEO Lars Boilesen was quoted as saying that it was designed to take on Safari and Chrome in the mobile space. A separate WebKit-powered Android browser will be formally revealed at this month's Mobile World Congress.
But the revelation that Opera is planning to adopt WebKit on the desktop, too, marks the end of an era for the Norwegian company, which introduced Presto a decade ago with Opera 7. The announcement was made as the company celebrated reaching the milestone of 300 million monthly users across all its platforms. |
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2013 14:16 Post subject: |
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Actually this is great news! I don't like the usability of Chrome but webkit is basically _the_ standard  Opera with webkit engine? Sounds great 
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2013 14:18 Post subject: |
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Waiting for Paul. 
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| Posted: Wed, 29th May 2013 04:27 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 29th May 2013 08:35 Post subject: |
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Having no bookmarks do suck, but you get to learn to live with it...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Wed, 29th May 2013 10:43 Post subject: |
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I personally barely use the regular bookmarks. I always forget about them 
I do use Speed Dial though (and the shortcuts for them). I also use the custom searching, Opera Link, built-in torrent client and so on. The most annoying thing about Opera Next is the fact that they split the mail part out; or more specifically, the RSS reader. Brilliantly simplistic and does exactly what it needs to do, unlike most others.
If this is an indication of where they're taking Opera, I'm not sure I'll keep using it. This is just an alpha version, but right now it's lacking most of the things that made Opera my preferred browser
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| Posted: Wed, 29th May 2013 10:47 Post subject: |
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What exactly is missing? Oh and bold fonts on nfohump look like shit with Opera Next 
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| Posted: Wed, 29th May 2013 11:21 Post subject: |
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Link, RSS, Speed Dial is only a bastardised version (no shortcuts), no custom search, wand seems to not save things as well as the current Opera does (and this I rely on a LOT, for some sites I have 5 or more logins saved, for clients).
It's basically just Chrome. The font rendering comes from that as well Pumpy. I still don't get why Leo likes it, because Chrome (and Opera Next) turns it into a blurry mess.
Edit: looks like RSS definitely isn't coming back at least, the Mail/RSS split is permanent. Well that's a bummer.
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| Posted: Wed, 29th May 2013 11:50 Post subject: |
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And apparently no more smooth scrolling either 
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| Posted: Thu, 30th May 2013 04:50 Post subject: |
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Missing M2, those dumbshits! M2 as a standalone? Might as well just discontinue.
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| Posted: Thu, 30th May 2013 07:52 Post subject: |
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Fonts don't look blurry on Windows on Chrome.
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| Posted: Thu, 30th May 2013 09:05 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Fonts don't look blurry on Windows on Chrome. |
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Thu, 30th May 2013 12:25 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Fonts don't look blurry on Windows on Chrome. |
They do on OS X though |
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| Posted: Thu, 30th May 2013 13:26 Post subject: |
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On my windows the bold ones look blurry on nfohump
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2013 01:06 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | Fonts don't look blurry on Windows on Chrome. |
They do on OS X though |
Not with proper fonts and font weights. I like how OS X fonts look. On Ubuntu, though, especially with the limited shit fonts there are, ugh...
Edit: Sorry, they don't with Safari. On my Macs I use Safari and Firefox, not Chrome. |
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2013 03:05 Post subject: |
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So I installed Opera 15. What the fuck does it give that Chrome doesn't? They even have the same WebKit bugs now. 
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2013 03:07 Post subject: |
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no NOtes
no importing of your passwords and bookmarks
no extensions
when all of those ARE IN CHROME
epic fail
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Werelds
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2013 09:40 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | So I installed Opera 15. What the fuck does it give that Chrome doesn't? They even have the same WebKit bugs now. |
Nothing, which is exactly the point |
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 04:58 Post subject: |
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i will have to use firefox with extensions (feature-wise) but for now i'll stick to opera 12 until the interwebs says otherwise
only two good things i currently see on opera 15 are the improved site compatibility and the chance to use chrome extensions.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Jun 2013 19:53 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jul 2013 00:11 Post subject: |
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Its offically out bitches. Opera 15.00. Download it and join the hipster ranks.
Im kinda afraid to replace the current version. probably best to do a sideways install until the guine pigs report bugs.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jul 2013 00:29 Post subject: |
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Just keep Opera Next installed to see what's coming. It's not there yet feature wise, which is why 12.x users have not been asked to upgrade.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jul 2013 00:42 Post subject: |
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I won't upgrade until I can have my notes at one spot!
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jul 2013 01:31 Post subject: |
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Opera Link, Speed Dial shortcuts, password wand. And make my fucking back/forward on mouse work properly in OS X. Dumbass Chrome doesn't work until you fiddle with it and this is the same. That's what I want before switching 
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jul 2013 06:07 Post subject: |
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Macfag
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Saner
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jul 2013 08:14 Post subject: |
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I quite like it
But the last time I used Opera was in about 2000, so what do I know
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jul 2013 11:28 Post subject: |
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That's because it is right now.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jul 2013 01:13 Post subject: |
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and now theyre pushing the update on 12.xx users. I did briefly test it and the rendering engine is much faster then the old version. however, the mssing features make it a no go for notihng but casual browsing for me.
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