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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 12:31    Post subject:
Hi, i don't want to start a new thread so i will ask here. It's about time for me to replace my 5850 with something "best bang for the buck". 7870 xt was my first pick, but i read about some temperature problems andthere's no Gigabyte version Wink. Recently i looked at 660 OC and it perform really well in tests and it cost only 720 zlotys here in Poland (about 175€). Any other suggestions? My cash limit is 220€.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 12:42    Post subject:
slal wrote:
Hi, i don't want to start a new thread so i will ask here. It's about time for me to replace my 5850 with something "best bang for the buck". 7870 xt was my first pick, but i read about some temperature problems andthere's no Gigabyte version Wink. Recently i looked at 660 OC and it perform really well in tests and it cost only 720 zlotys here in Poland (about 175€). Any other suggestions? My cash limit is 220€.


Consider Asus GTX 650 Ti Boost, that thing is a beast, people say.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 15:00    Post subject:
So I was thinking.. Could it be possible to put one 7970 and a 7990 into Crossfire? I mean they're essentially the same chip. Probably won't work but I'm curious Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 15:05    Post subject:
Krille666 wrote:
So I was thinking.. Could it be possible to put one 7970 and a 7990 into Crossfire? I mean they're essentially the same chip. Probably won't work but I'm curious Very Happy


yes you can
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 15:08    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Krille666 wrote:
So I was thinking.. Could it be possible to put one 7970 and a 7990 into Crossfire? I mean they're essentially the same chip. Probably won't work but I'm curious Very Happy


yes you can


Awesome. i feel like I should do this when the 7990 is released. That is, if my PSU can handle it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 16:17    Post subject:
you should just buy second 7970.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 16:18    Post subject:
Tri-Crossfire is going to even more annoying, so i hope you are ready for that Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 16:51    Post subject:
Just read this, haven't done more digginig, but:
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/19/nvidia-gtx-650-ti-boost-sli-omfg/


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 16:57    Post subject:
Might be good buy in the Americas, but in the real world (EU, especially Finland) they cost 20€ less than GTX 660 (179€ for 650Ti Boost and GTX 660 for 199€). Also its not really good choice to get 2 slow cards even they would be on par with some high end model, since you dont have any room for upgrade at all. One 650Ti is a great buy for budget PC, can play pretty nicely games at 1080p.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 16:59    Post subject:
difm wrote:
Just read this, haven't done more digginig, but:
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/19/nvidia-gtx-650-ti-boost-sli-omfg/



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I’m not talking just about running games at 1080p either – though this setup does indeed fly at that resolution – even at our 30-inch panel res of 2560×1600 the 4GB shared framebuffer gives this array some serious high-res gaming chops too.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 17:00    Post subject:
That article also seems to be pretty bullshit, 2GB is not enough at that resolution for those games, also 4XMSAA on (Yeah sure Cool Face).
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 21:20    Post subject:
damn, it sounded too good... oh well, I'm satisfied with my VaporX Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Apr 2013 11:31    Post subject:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/nvidia_geforce_gtx_titan_ultra_and_gtx_titan_le.html

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There have been several rumors for a while now that NVIDIA would be building an LE version of the GeForce GTX Titan. We can now expand that even further, as it seems there will be two new models release. An even faster Ultra edition and thus the cheaper LE edition. German website 3dcenter claims that the GeForce GTX TITAN LE has 2496 Shader cores, 208 TMUs, 40 ROPs, and a 320-bit wide memory interface (5120 MB memory.) The tertiary GK110 product would then be the GeForce GTX TITAN Ultra.

The Ultra would be a small upgrade for the 'regular' Titan, opening up one disabled SMX cluster bringing 2880 Shader cores with 240 TMUs towards the Ultra.

There remains a lot of speculation of course, but this could mean the Titan LE at 599 USD. The Original Titan at 799 USD, and the GeForce Titan Ultra at 999 USD.

(Because the original wasn't fast enough apparently and people thought of it as too expensive so now there might be three of them. Razz )

Still I guess the Titan LE is fairly viable as a upgrade for those still using the NV 400 and 500 series of GPU's (Completely ignoring the mid-range 650 or 660 here. ) whereas the Titan works similar to a 690 in terms of performance but without the chance of any SLI related problems.
(And then there's the ultra model which is faster still if it turns out to be real, although how much faster?, if it's 5 - 15% then one could probably reach the same performance on the other models via overclocking minus the hardware differences though 5GB of VRAM on the LE model is still more than enough.)


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Apr 2013 11:33    Post subject:
Milk it further nvidia! Laughing

Funny how stupid they actually are, instead of doing what AMD is doing (trying to improve already existing cards), they only want more $$$ Laughing
Only stupid people would take nvidia over AMD this year Laughing

Furthermore, i kinda get the feeling that AMD isn't bringing out anything this year on purpose, to see what impact the new consoles have on terms of graphical power in pc games.
Or maybe they already know (since they designed it ofc), and are therefor holding back, maybe, just maybe, old cards are being irrelevant after that Razz


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Apr 2013 11:38    Post subject:
I'm pretty sure Nvidia is waiting with the 700 series albeit I don't know for what specific reason, similarly AMD is still promoting the 7000 series and have no imminent plans to release the 8000 model.
(Which I thought was pretty close to release but instead it's speculated to be around Q4 2013 or maybe Q1 2014.)

I guess there's not much of a reason to launch a new GPU yet either so Nvidia now has this slightly improved architecture for the enthusiast market.
(And AMD is planning to do a actual 7990 release soon.)

I don't know much about these things though, I guess it's similar to the current CPU market with refresh for year 1 and then a upgrade for year 2, not exactly but something like that.


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Apr 2013 11:39    Post subject:
One thing is for sure that they wont drop price on "normal" Titan Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Apr 2013 12:15    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
I guess there's not much of a reason to launch a new GPU yet either so Nvidia now has this slightly improved architecture for the enthusiast market.
(And AMD is planning to do a actual 7990 release soon.)


That might be, but why isn't nvidia trying to improve their driver even further then? Try to get more power out of the existing cards instead of bringing out new ones (with power that could had been achieved prolly with one 680 aswell)


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Apr 2013 13:07    Post subject:
I assume it's down to the Keppler core (It was trimmed down a bit initially wasn't it?), so by now it's been refined further and everything is enabled and the yields are likely better too.
(Wonder if the next models will use yet another die shrink, 22nm or what it would be instead of the current 28, I forgot.)

CUDA performance is probably much better too such as for PhysX in say Hawken, Metro Last Light and possibly also ArmA 3 (If it even has something, it's PhysX 3 but I do not know if there's any extra hardware accelerated effects planned.) as for the drivers I thought the recent 314 releases did bring better performance though some people have had issues with them as well.
(But that's just as with AMD and their recent 13.x drivers.)

It's a enthusiast GPU though and the main series is still the 600 so this is a bit special.
(Nvidia could probably have done a 665, 675, 685 model out of it too, Titan probably sounds better however and there's more on those graphics cards than just the GPU core itself.)

I don't know much about these things however but now Nvidia has a GPU that is definitely faster than AMD's 7970 instead of them trading blows with one another depending on software.
(Which also works well for marketing I'd assume, world's fastest single GPU and all that stuff.)

EDIT: Oh and the Titan and these recent announcements about the LE and Ultra versions of it likely also steals a bit of focus from the 7990 launch.
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hw.info Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Apr 2013 16:31    Post subject:
making my new 7870 look old
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Apr 2013 17:33    Post subject:
Add another 7870 and you got poor man´s Titan Very Happy Anyway about that Titan Ultra... I bet current Titan owners are shitting bricks atm if its true Very Happy.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Apr 2013 10:41    Post subject:
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First and foremost, few weeks back, several websites leaked the news about a part called GeForce GTX Titan LE, a board based on cut down GK110 GPU silicon. The leak was right, since this will actually be a consumer version of Tesla K20C, the 2496-core part with 5GB of GDDR5 memory. The name will not be the GTX Titan LE, though. Meet the GeForce GTX 780 5GB. Just as the GTX Titan was a consumer version of the K20X (2688-core part, 6GB GDDR5 memory), K20A/C is getting a consumer version as well. The performance is about 30% faster than a single GTX 680. You can expect this board to launch (hard launch, availability from Day 0) in the final days of May, as the Computex train starts to heat up. Pricing unknown, but you should prices anywhere between $499 and $599.



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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Apr 2013 11:02    Post subject:
KaSssss wrote:
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The performance is about 30% faster than a single GTX 680.

Titan itself barely manages 30% at 1080p, peaking at 40% on Surround resolutions so that statement is bullshit. 15-20% is more like it, which puts it smack down in the middle between Titan and Tahiti XTX. And still overpriced, although not as utterly retarded as Titan.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Apr 2013 17:01    Post subject:
Hey, I'm looking to get a new card and my limit is around 150 euro's. Anyone got any good suggestions ? Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Apr 2013 21:30    Post subject:
If this is true, Titan is basically just a quick cash in, and is gonna make lots of customers angry who already bought it. You could get 2x 780s for the price (one would be like 10-15% slower while being half more cheaper? WTF Very Happy). Also seeing how badly Titan overclocks, this is gonna be exactly the same as GTX 680 (670 released after, overclocked generally much better way beyond 680, and was cheaper) expect it would more radical change in price. Doesnt really make any sense, considering how Nvidia has priced their products. Also im pretty sure that these 7xx series will come with gigabyte/asus etc.. aftermarket coolers, to make GTX Titan owners more angry (if true ofc) Very Happy.

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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Apr 2013 21:40    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:


By 4xAA i assume they mean MSAA and not FXAA ??
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Apr 2013 21:51    Post subject:
yes its 4xMSAA.
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Apr 2013 11:31    Post subject:
Talking about some fucking nice improvement to the frame latency issue Very Happy PCperspective has the AMD "prototype" drivers. Yeah, 7990 also costs 999 dollars but it includes 7 games.




Here is full article: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Frame-Rating-AMD-Improves-CrossFire-Prototype-Driver


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