If it was a F2P model (especially that it has ingame shop that is promoted) I would say it's pretty enjoyable. But it is B2P with the shop and it still clearly in beta with shitty support at the moment - there is patch released but no info in the launcher about fixes, it seems that the devs doesn't listen to the feedback (but they fixed ammo issue in arkfalls), everything that should be explained about the game is scavenged from post of other user in the official forum.
Trion doesn't shine here.
And so many bad decisions here was made on the fact that this game is also avaliable on consoles. Because of this we have shitty chat, no tooltips, abysmal UI. I don't know maybe the retail console version has some kind of manual that explains stuff.
I am kind of surprised that they didn't have this F2P especially since it has the TV show tie in. I would think they would make far more money from the ingame shop that way versus their current method.
I am kind of surprised that they didn't have this F2P especially since it has the TV show tie in. I would think they would make far more money from the ingame shop that way versus their current method.
I agree. Who knows, one of the possible reasons is they don't trust in their product and so they release it as a quick cash-in.
selling their game, quick cash in. Oh you guys and your one liners
Anyway I admit my post probably need more reasoning to make even slight sense. I'm too tired to do that, so I leave it just at that. It's not even that it matters what I think
So just did a half hour arkfall, just to get 5 keys, 400 scrip and 500 xp. No loot.
2 Random encounters/dynamic events - that take 3 minutes to complete max - 3-4 keys, 400 scrip, 300 xp :/
And there were no ammo caches that was suppose to be added in the patch in major arkfall.
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Would be nicer if they had support classes. But everyone wants to pew pew! Chat is for the weak and housing is for people playing with barbies! (coming straight from their forums )
bought collectors edition for 80€, ordered yesterday and its here now. Has a nice Case that looks like a loot/ammo box of sorts, a nice figurine of some monster (quite big) and 100 page artbook, hard cover, with well, artwork, a letter (rp) to thank me to participate in the New Freedom program, some stickers, CD with soundtrack, the game, some cards.
Ingame i get 7 day scrip boost, 7 day xp boost, some weapons and shields and some special titles. As well as 5 additional inventory slots.
(here, games cost 60-70€ anyway, so 10-20 more for collectors edition is nice. Other collectors editions usually cost 120+)
I had great time with Borderlands 1 and 2..will grab this during weekend.
The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don’t always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don’t always spoil the good things and make them unimportant.
oh i am still downloading got the game this afternoon and the download is going rather slow.
Oh i do have the disks, but still no dvd drive on my new computer And apparantly you have to patch the whole thing all over anyway. Not even sure there is an actual client on the disks
Ist not "like Bordelands". Borderlands (both) are great SP fun , with MP as an option.
This is completely different, SP is not anywhere near Borderlands
wait so a F2P game for PC that was a advert for a new TV SHOW goes... pay to play and derp for console ... and the decisions that you make in game will influence the new TV show
Guess 2013 standards are to make crap games that every sheep will buy
I really do not see anything you do in this game affecting the TV show since the show was shot months ago and post production on a scifi show usually takes a while for each episode due to the sfx. I can see the show opening up new areas for the game as the show progresses and maybe some interaction with the show characters for a mission but that's about it. It's not like they are going to allow the show to become same fat nerd's Fanfiction where King Buttertard saves the day.
It's the other way around. The show influences the quests in the game.
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Not to mention it looks so cheap, but i dont understand why WoW is put to same sentence.
Cause it seems to have the "whoever tags the mob gets the kill" kind of thing. I dunno, I've just played WoW for so long that it's my first go to place.
Not to mention it looks so cheap, but i dont understand why WoW is put to same sentence.
Cause it seems to have the "whoever tags the mob gets the kill" kind of thing. I dunno, I've just played WoW for so long that it's my first go to place.
Actually, anyone participating in the battle will get the kill, and loot, even if you're not in group.
I really do not see anything you do in this game affecting the TV show since the show was shot months ago and post production on a scifi show usually takes a while for each episode due to the sfx. I can see the show opening up new areas for the game as the show progresses and maybe some interaction with the show characters for a mission but that's about it. It's not like they are going to allow the show to become same fat nerd's Fanfiction where King Buttertard saves the day.
It wont happen in first season, will happen in second season, but don't expect too much from it. They might mention player names in the show to portray some kind of battle or what not.
Like everything else it's a gimmick and we shouldn't get sucked into the hype.
Prefetatian: You get xp for the dmg you have done on the mob but you get loot nonetheless.
Watched some vids and streams to see if anything changed past beta... Not much tbh. People still driving away from arkfalls to get ammo in the middle of the battle.
And dear lord the stupidity of those streamers: Constantly running, jumping, shooting at the ground or air, constantly switching enemy's without killing them off.
Pick your target, move so you can hit their weakspot (OMG TEY HAF WEAKSPOTZ!1!1??? ) and finish it off before you move to the next.
If you don't 'aggro' it you have no reason to move like a twitchy bitch
Guess it's filled with the mainstream generation xD
+ its instanced loot. Oh and also when you do a mission and someone else is doing it as well, you're doing it together (you still have to be on the mission tho).
Played only a bit so far, but its fresh and enjoyable. Of course , the people who burn through content in mmo's like there is no tomorrow are never happy anyway , rofl.
Took me almost 2 months to get through swtor's story mission and pvp and dungeons etc , before i realized it sucked
I really do not see anything you do in this game affecting the TV show since the show was shot months ago and post production on a scifi show usually takes a while for each episode due to the sfx. I can see the show opening up new areas for the game as the show progresses and maybe some interaction with the show characters for a mission but that's about it. It's not like they are going to allow the show to become same fat nerd's Fanfiction where King Buttertard saves the day.
It wont happen in first season, will happen in second season, but don't expect too much from it. They might mention player names in the show to portray some kind of battle or what not.
Like everything else it's a gimmick and we shouldn't get sucked into the hype.
Prefetatian: You get xp for the dmg you have done on the mob but you get loot nonetheless.
Watched some vids and streams to see if anything changed past beta... Not much tbh. People still driving away from arkfalls to get ammo in the middle of the battle.
And dear lord the stupidity of those streamers: Constantly running, jumping, shooting at the ground or air, constantly switching enemy's without killing them off.
Pick your target, move so you can hit their weakspot (OMG TEY HAF WEAKSPOTZ!1!1??? ) and finish it off before you move to the next.
If you don't 'aggro' it you have no reason to move like a twitchy bitch
Guess it's filled with the mainstream generation xD
tbh, you'll die quite fast if you stand still in a big battle
There are sometimes massive amounts of monsters around and the best way to avoid them is to bunnyhop like a derp. Rolling also avoids hits, but you cannot shoot while you roll.
Defiance is a mediocre mmo shooter. Don't treat it as RPG, it's not.
Looks to me, as if you want it to be a rpg and realized it isn't As a (mmo) shooter, its pretty robust.
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which part ? i can access everything with keys and its easy to find. Inventory could be better, but it isn't really different from any other game.
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- some people still don't know how to exit the game due to this fact
those people are morons. Press F6 and there you have everything from logout, exit game etc etc. Its easy.
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- nothing is really explained in the game, help is sparse
Figured everything out just fine so far. Equipping and upgrading perks, adding, removing,salvaging mods and items. Etc. Etc. again, people who can't figure that stuff out (and are too lazy if all else fail, to check on a website) are just lazy morons. Seriously, people bitch about games having too much hand holding and then this ? That being said, most stuff is explained just well.
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- so good luck in guessing what stats in weapons and shields do what or what does that particular elemental damage
Huh ? Weapon stats are pretty much straightforward. Damage (per hit), Fire rate (bullets fired per X (could be second, i think it is). Fire adds burning dot. Shield have capacity, recharge delay and recharge rate .. oh .. look .. its like in borderlands ...
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- the chat is utter shit, you can't whisper to a friend you can only speak on global chat, when you are in group you are automaticaly switched to voice chat but if you want to mute that you will mute all
hm, lets see ... /w player hello ... oh my gosh, its there. Oh and type /help in chat and omg ... there are like a hundred other commands
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- there seems to be no level progression.
Hm, no, there isn't, again, this isn't a rpg. Its a shooter.
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- Most of the quest are: "go kill X, interact with Y and protect the Z" - rince and repeat
Oh no, kill things in a shooter ! That being said, it has to be added, there is no "Kill 10 Mutants" missions. Not so far anyway (and doubt there are any). Most missions so far are in an area, where you have to do certain things in order to progress, with mobs spawning.
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- The loot so far was laughable
Again, a shooter, not a hack n slash (considering that, loot is most mmo's isn't something to write home about. Think about it, how often do you get loot, period, that's of any use (other then crafting) in e.g. WoW ? Yeah, almost never. Unless you kill a boss and then you get a random loot of its loot table (never random).
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- Arkfall events are still borked and don't drop loot only cash and xp but it's not worth the half hour of shooting to almost invincible hellbugs
Cant say much about that, only did 2 or 3 of them. One i finished first, dunno if they give you items directly into inventory or not, didn't pay attention, but i remember looting some gun on the ground. But again, its not a loot galore hack n slash
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- First DLC is suppose to be released on the 5th of April but that might be only a rumor.
Its the 5th and there is no dlc and honestly, who would probably believe , that they would push out a dlc, 3-4 days after release ? You have to be pretty naive hehe.
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- You can finish the story line in 12 hours
you can finish morrowind in 8 ish minutes. People who burn through content like that are NEVER satisfied anyway, so why bother ?
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- Weapons have unlockable perks but after you unlock that perks (5% damage if shooting from above enemy for example) that weapon doesn't grant you anymore xp torward the weapon skill
not sure whats the pro or con is here. Weapon don't upgrade forever and ever ? I don't get it.
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- It is recommended to use the arkfall codes (mentioned before in this thread) to unlock additional slots in inventory otherwise the game is pain in the ass in the beginning
Sure, its a pain now, i did it, added all 120 codes at once. But this was originally a process that took months. You got codes left and right and entered as you found them. It made people feel immersed. Nothing wrong about something like that to promote the game beforehand.
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- The player models are hard to distinguish from each other so when you are fighting humanoid mobs with other players it just becomes a cluster fuck of confusion
Now, humans look like humans That being said, the big fat red tag on top of enemies "should" be enough. But i didn't really notice much difficulties in making the difference between mutants and .. non mutants... bad eyesight maybe ?
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- You dodge roll with the "alt" key
you can remap EVERY single key used in the game. Every single one of them.
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- The exit button is in the right upper corner when you enter the wheel menu
Or in the F6 Menu. Like every other game , this also has a menu for options, exit, etc etc. Here, its F6, in Diablo its F10, its other game its ESC.
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- If you enter a car from the right front door you won't be able to drive it!
then enter from the left door, the driver door
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Yes I bought it.
me too !
PS: this is purely factoid. Nothing against you, vonminks. But i like to have things set straight, before wrong facts become real facts, again. Its pretty easy on this forum
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) and finish it off before you move to the next.
