For those who don't want to buy this game and support EA DRM thingy blahblahblah :
Tropico 4 collector bundle is on -75% on steam (9.99€)
And it really worths the price !
I have never played any of the Tropico games, but I loved Sim City 2000 - 4. I wont buy into EA's DRM, so I bought Tropico 4, since you recommended it and 9.99€ seems like a good deal.
I hope it's worth it. Installing right now.
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This basically explains that the population size is a total lie! MAxis artificially inflates population size through adding phantom occupant to a house, whom are neither a shopper or a worker.
Also, deleting a workbuilding deletes the actuall workers in the building, so if you keep restructuring to much, you could en up loosing all your workers, since the workers are created when the house is buildt, and not from the actual population.
ok, not having played the game, i will just throw out a wild claim.
while i can understand how the game can be immensely fun at first, with all these issues and a broken game structure itself in several ways, i am sure masses will be bored of it and annoyed after another week or so, when everyone can see the faulty inner workings of the game.
Why doesn't everyone just join arms and file a class action lawsuit against EA?
Even if it might result into nothing due to stupid terms and bullshit excuses, atleast EA would see that people are not taking this kind of shit for granted..
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Why doesn't everyone just join arms and file a class action lawsuit against EA?
Even if it might result into nothing due to stupid terms and bullshit excuses, atleast EA would see that people are not taking this kind of shit for granted..
Because EA said in the EULA that action class lawsuites are forbidden... And EULA is THE LAW!!!!!!
Why doesn't everyone just join arms and file a class action lawsuit against EA?
Even if it might result into nothing due to stupid terms and bullshit excuses, atleast EA would see that people are not taking this kind of shit for granted..
Because EA said in the EULA that action class lawsuites are forbidden... And EULA is THE LAW!!!!!!
well i started great work.. then my time got stuck. now i cant e nter my old city, loading any other cities get me stuck in loading loop for eternity.. only thing that worked new region and new cities , not the point of that post but its there..
Even if it's a point stated a million times before, I guess we just have to hammer it into the heads of these dinosaurs until it penetrates their thick skulls.
Why doesn't everyone just join arms and file a class action lawsuit against EA?
Even if it might result into nothing due to stupid terms and bullshit excuses, atleast EA would see that people are not taking this kind of shit for granted..
Because EA said in the EULA that action class lawsuites are forbidden... And EULA is THE LAW!!!!!!
Also because Class Actions are a scam that benefits lawyers and no one else. It has zero effect on companies while the people involved in the class action wait 3 years to receive a check for $0.15. If you think class actions are effective at all, you are fooling yourself. It's actually good that companies are stopping that shit.
Yes they can in america. There's legal precedence over it, hence why all the companies starting throwing that into their license agreements. Not even joking this is a good thing. Class Actions really are a scam that does nothing to companies. If you think a $10,000 fine will harm EA, you're gravely underestimating their company value.
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Why doesn't everyone just join arms and file a class action lawsuit against EA?
Even if it might result into nothing due to stupid terms and bullshit excuses, atleast EA would see that people are not taking this kind of shit for granted..
Because EA said in the EULA that action class lawsuites are forbidden... And EULA is THE LAW!!!!!!
Also because Class Actions are a scam that benefits lawyers and no one else. It has zero effect on companies while the people involved in the class action wait 3 years to receive a check for $0.15. If you think class actions are effective at all, you are fooling yourself. It's actually good that companies are stopping that shit.
And how much did you get payed to give such comment?
Like a single person can do anything against a big company like that, you NEED to hold hands with other people and join forces to stop such companies, a single person can do fuck all.
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Also because Class Actions are a scam that benefits lawyers and no one else. It has zero effect on companies while the people involved in the class action wait 3 years to receive a check for $0.15. If you think class actions are effective at all, you are fooling yourself. It's actually good that companies are stopping that shit.
And how much did you get payed to give such comment?
Like a single person can do anything against a big company like that, you NEED to hold hands with other people and join forces to stop such companies, a single person can do fuck all.
I'm sure EA will be in so much pain when they have to pay 5000 people $0.15. Class Actions are a scam.
Also because Class Actions are a scam that benefits lawyers and no one else. It has zero effect on companies while the people involved in the class action wait 3 years to receive a check for $0.15. If you think class actions are effective at all, you are fooling yourself. It's actually good that companies are stopping that shit.
You must be too young to remember the class action suit against Sony for their rootkit DRM fiasco. They were forced to buy back some 5 million cd's and offered exchanges for some 2 million other units. It cost them millions in the end and they didn't try that one again.
A class action suit filed against Microsoft after they withdrew a large number of volume licences (due to the keys being leaked) cost them $1.1billion on compensation claims from private and business consumers. Enterprise customers who license thousands of desktop don't take kindly to finding them all "counterfeit" come Monday morning. Microsoft subsequently changed the whole VLK process to avoid looking like utter retards in the future.
So yeah, they can be successful. Provided you have a decent legal team fighting your corner.
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Also because Class Actions are a scam that benefits lawyers and no one else. It has zero effect on companies while the people involved in the class action wait 3 years to receive a check for $0.15. If you think class actions are effective at all, you are fooling yourself. It's actually good that companies are stopping that shit.
You must be too young to remember the class action suit against Sony for their rootkit DRM fiasco. They were forced to buy back some 5 million cd's and offered exchanges for some 2 million other units. It cost them millions in the end and they didn't try that one again.
A class action suit filed against Microsoft after they withdrew a large number of volume licences (due to the keys being leaked) cost them $1.1billion on compensation claims from private and business consumers. Enterprise customers who license thousands of desktop don't take kindly to finding them all "counterfeit" come Monday morning. Microsoft subsequently changed the whole VLK process to avoid looking like utter retards in the future.
So yeah, they can be successful. Provided you have a decent legal team fighting your corner.
A broken clock is right twice a day. Just because they worked twice doesn't mean they aren't inherently flawed and designed to benefit lawyers and not defendants. You guys can go on thinking that getting a class action over a video game will hurt EA, but don't be surprised when the payout is in 3 years when no one gives a shit anymore.
You said it yourself, the reason those cases won is because of good legal teams. Which isn't the point of Class Actions.
Hell, look back a couple years ago when the PS3 had Linux removed and there was a class action about removing advertised features. The class action went through, everyone involved got $1.
Indeed, but you said it was never right, and obviously you were wrong. Plenty of examples out there besides the two I provided. Not that any amount would be good enough for you as you seem happy in your ignorance. Carry on.
Let's say that 5000 people sue EA for a refund ($60 per = $300K). And let's say that the legal team charges ~$150 per billable hour. Let's say that the legal team racks up something like ~700 hours (which equates to ~17.5 wks from start to finish, this also assumes that the legal team chooses to go hourly instead of percentage based). This leaves ~$195K for court costs (which can be as much as 20%) and for the 5000 people. In the end, using the assumptions that I've made, each person will receive a check for $31.20. While this is no paltry amount, in the end, the customers aren't going to get all of their money back and, it only costs EA $300K and a little bit of bad PR (which isn't always a bad thing).
This all assumes that EA doesn't just offer to settle, in which case, the legal team will likely settle and then take up to 60% leaving the customers end up with quite a bit less than what I've described.
The only time where a class action suit actually benefits people is when there are large punitive damages adjudicated.
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Thanks for the idea Lutz!
And doing nothing at all gets you a big fat zero. I'd rather have 50% of my original outlay back than nothing. Also, in successful suits, costs incurred are paid be the losing side, even in most settlements there is an agreement on costs (usually because the opposition knows they would ultimately lose, or as a face saving exercise).
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and I was so planning to buy this..damn..
