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H4wkeye




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 17:12    Post subject:
human_steel wrote:
H4wkeye wrote:
How do you play it in DX9? I thought only DX11 works.

tet666 wrote:
As always game runs mutch better in dx9 mode, cant even see a difference tbh, i had the dx11 stuff turned off anyway, if anyone wants to try it: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Crystal Dynamics\Tomb Raider\Graphics
Modify RenderAPI value to 9.


Thank you human_steelona Everything Went Better Than Expected
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 17:20    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
@Mindermast : hint, try to turn your head real fast from left & right, and then you will see motion blur in real life. Then try to wonder why dev put motion blur in their games when you turn the camera real fast.

I know what motion blur is supposed to do, but it never does that properly in games.
When I move my head, everything I see does not suddenly become a blurry incomprehensible mess like it does in game implementations of motion blur. If I turn slow, the effect is just wrong and if I turn fast, I won't be able to make all too much sense of the fast changing image anyway (and here you have people that would prefer 120Hz screens to reduce the effect, for "smoothness").

Either way, you can't really compare what you see with your eyes and what you see through a viewport that occupies a small part of your field of vision (and has in turn it's own limited FOV in game).
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Divvy




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 17:21    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
@Mindermast : hint, try to turn your head real fast from left & right, and then you will see motion blur in real life. Then try to wonder why dev put motion blur in their games when you turn the camera real fast.


Then try waving your hand in front of you and fixate your eyes on the hand. The hand remains sharp. This is something they can't do, so you could perfectly understand the reason why some people dislike motion blur in games.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 17:24    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
@Mindermast : hint, try to turn your head real fast from left & right, and then you will see motion blur in real life. Then try to wonder why dev put motion blur in their games when you turn the camera real fast.


you already have a motion blur from your own eyes/brain, why add another on top ?
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 17:28    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
cyclonefr wrote:
@Mindermast : hint, try to turn your head real fast from left & right, and then you will see motion blur in real life. Then try to wonder why dev put motion blur in their games when you turn the camera real fast.


you already have a motion blur from your own eyes/brain, why add another on top ?


I dont think it's the same. Things are moving on the screen with limited hz... whatever. I dont know. I jsut prefer it with mb


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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 17:44    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
cyclonefr wrote:
@Mindermast : hint, try to turn your head real fast from left & right, and then you will see motion blur in real life. Then try to wonder why dev put motion blur in their games when you turn the camera real fast.


you already have a motion blur from your own eyes/brain, why add another on top ?


I dont think it's the same. Things are moving on the screen with limited hz... whatever. I dont know. I jsut prefer it with mb

Well motion blur for moving objects does "smooth" it out somewhat if done properly, but it still feels a bit off to me. Matter of taste I guess.

I never liked the blur you get by panning the camera though Smile
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 17:47    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
cyclonefr wrote:
@Mindermast : hint, try to turn your head real fast from left & right, and then you will see motion blur in real life. Then try to wonder why dev put motion blur in their games when you turn the camera real fast.


you already have a motion blur from your own eyes/brain, why add another on top ?
But... but... it's even more cinematic!1

It's the most useless effect present on any modern game for me, and although it really isn't much intrusive in this game disabling an effect that I dislike and gaining a couple of more fps while doing it is a win-win in my book.


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consolitis
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 18:39    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
cyclonefr wrote:
@Mindermast : hint, try to turn your head real fast from left & right, and then you will see motion blur in real life. Then try to wonder why dev put motion blur in their games when you turn the camera real fast.


you already have a motion blur from your own eyes/brain, why add another on top ?


No you don't. When a game doesn't have motion blur, your eyes/brain do not magically add to it. You need to explicitly put it in game.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Ralph_Wiggum




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 19:03    Post subject:
Cant get the lens flares & shit to work with or without windowed :/


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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 19:47    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:

It's the most useless effect present on any modern game for me, and although it really isn't much intrusive in this game disabling an effect that I dislike and gaining a couple of more fps while doing it is a win-win in my book.


I always disable motion blur, and very often DOF, unless its well done. rmember gothic 3 DOF? or two worlds?
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 19:50    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
anyone has a nice sweetfx preset for this game? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 20:20    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
lolozaur wrote:
anyone has a nice sweetfx preset for this game? Very Happy


I'm using this one http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/199/ looks pretty good.
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 20:53    Post subject:
ms Very Happy
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 21:55    Post subject:
Sweet jebus, looks good now. Didnt know there was that kind of site Razz Thanks!
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 22:14    Post subject:
SweetFX is pretty much a must for this game. There's this strange grey veil, which sweetFX removes.
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Voldy




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 23:01    Post subject:
Apparently I suck at QTEs EDIT Nevermind. F button is my friend Smile


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Divvy




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 23:09    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
SweetFX is pretty much a must for this game. There's this strange grey veil, which sweetFX removes.


Only in locations where it's intended. There are places where there's no "grey veil", in which case the same changes by SweetFX will probably do harm.
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Mar 2013 23:41    Post subject:
In which case you can disable sweetFX for that time. I understand they want to create the sense of darkness sometimes, but it looks like crap imo.
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Mar 2013 00:32    Post subject:
This game Reaction Everytime I play a little more I feel a little dumber. What a pathetic disappointment. Serious candidate for #2 worst game of 2013, right after Aliens.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Mar 2013 00:45    Post subject:
played around 6-7 hours , its fucking awesome so far Very Happy, a little dissapointed about the tombs, way too simple, if they were like in darksiders2 for example Sad; anyway although its pretty liniar, game is spectacular, definitely a goty candidate imo. Didnt tried mp yet but it probably sucks Razz
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Mar 2013 00:48    Post subject:
Game certainly won't stand a chance on my GoTY list for the end of the year but I can't deny I'm really enjoying it and I admit I was wrong when I said a few weeks ago that it was gonna be shit Smile

Sure I would have preferred to have better tombs and puzzles to solve, but that can still be included in ulterior outings.
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Mar 2013 00:49    Post subject:
Reaction Kill me.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Neon
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Mar 2013 00:50    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Serious candidate for #2 worst game of 2013, right after Aliens.


lolno
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Mar 2013 00:50    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Reaction Kill me.


Sorry man, looks like you're in a minority on this Razz

We all have gone through that at some point.
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human_steel




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Mar 2013 00:55    Post subject:
It's a 8.5/10 game for me. The sequel only needs bigger tombs with more brain-racking puzzles which are integrated into the main story and not left aside as optional undertakings. Everything else can be left untouched.
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Mar 2013 01:03    Post subject:
This game doesn't do absolutely nothing right.

I'm pewpewing left and right with my machine gun killing hundreds upon hundreds of humans standing right next to red exploding barrels and shouting stuff like "yeah, I'm gonna take you all out bastards, I'm coming for you!"

Where the fuck is the "a survivor is born", "Lara is inexperienced in this one", "you'll want to protect her" moments that I was promised and the game conveniently remembers only during cutscenes? I'm the fucking Terminator in this game.

Max Fucking Payne wasn't half of the killing machine Lara Croft is in this.

And the stock characters are so bad in this Laughing

Greedy scientist
Fatherly figure
Friendly "in touch with the spirit world" guy

And the NON stop Michael Bay moments pretty much have made me so tired of all the explosions and near death moments. These are supposed to be exciting but if they are in your face every 5 minutes they become a chore.

Pathetic Laughing


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Vikerness




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Mar 2013 01:10    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Serious candidate for #2 worst game of 2013, right after Aliens.
Make that #3 cuz Crysis takes the crown


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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Mar 2013 01:10    Post subject:
I didn't felt like there was too much shooting.

did people forgot that Lara was running around with 2 pistols, maching gun, shotgun and other weapons in even first 3 games ? Mowing tons of people/animals.

And don't You dar say a bad word about Max Payne. He is a hero of gaming !


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Mar 2013 01:10    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
"you'll want to protect her" moments


You actually took that seriously? I haven't had any "need" to protect Lara whatsoever, nor did I ever think I would before playing the game. If anything, I'm virtually trasgendering and I become Lara while playing it Laughing
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Mar 2013 01:14    Post subject:
In the sense that she won't be able to overpower 20 guys per setpiece moment, yes I did believe them. How wrong was I.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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