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 Posted: Sat, 2nd Mar 2013 09:24 Post subject: |
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Designers don't have to write. In fact, you could argue that they shouldn't write, since game mechanics are so entirely different to the mechanics of writing (build-up/release of tension, fleshed-out characters, character motivations, etc.) that it would be hard to be a master of both.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Mar 2013 09:42 Post subject: |
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| dannofdawn wrote: | | Casus wrote: | | dannofdawn wrote: |
He doesn't write? |
I wouldn't know, why? |
That was my question, which writer and designer impresses you. |
I answered that earlier. BioForge also had great writing back in the day. Secret World has some of the best writing I know of.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Mar 2013 09:59 Post subject: |
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damn the preorder bonus 3 is awesome. free x-com 
im jelly.
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Mar 2013 10:21 Post subject: |
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Obviously times are different from when games like SS2 etc. were made. The business won't put money into deep philosophical games unless it's hidden behind a lot of action and shooting. Levine did the best he could with Bioshock. There would be no Bioshock if he hadn't compromised a solution that fit the publisher dishing out the money. In that department he made a great compromise (imho) since he did manage to get the paradigms, nihilism and atmosphere just right and how Utopias by their very nature are destroyed by the imperfect man. A perfect world requires perfect people, thus it will never be anything more than a concept.
Before Bioshock he had written a full draft of System Shock 3 and went to EA with it (since they owned the rights at the time) but they weren't interested (perhaps a good thing, EA would've ruined the entire franchise if they had capitalised on it). So he went back to the drawing board, talker with Take2/2K and wrote, built and designed the world of Rapture and the philosophy behind that particular utopian vision. So even if it's basically a shooter, it's a clever one with lots to pick up if you pay attention to the theme.
Bioshock 2 (where Levine wasn't involved, he was already working on Infinite with Irrational) lacked all of those components and turned into a more action focused sequel since everything had already been told in the first.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Mar 2013 10:39 Post subject: |
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nice new avatar man 
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Mar 2013 12:55 Post subject: |
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| Fever wrote: | | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2viudg2jsE8 |
holy shit. Amazing.
This must be pc version played with a controller
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Mar 2013 13:19 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | Fever wrote: | | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2viudg2jsE8 |
holy shit. Amazing.
This must be pc version played with a controller |
so close!! looks very good.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Mar 2013 13:39 Post subject: |
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you liked alyx? man i wanted to kill that bitch 
gordon this gordon that, STFU already and stand still so i can look at your ass. 
im glad its a singleplayer only game. means they didnt cut any corners to add some crap dead on arrival MP
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Mar 2013 13:44 Post subject: |
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| 4treyu wrote: |
I'm dreaming of Elizabeth being in the same league as Alyx in Half-Life 2. That is, a really meaningful companion, nothing like the generic/boring "follow the leader" friendly AIs of today's shooters. Hopefully, the dream will come true  |
so basically, if im understanding you right, is you're hoping for a shitload of elizabeth bioshock porn? |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Mar 2013 13:51 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Mar 2013 01:05 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Mar 2013 02:18 Post subject: |
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The AI video looks interesting. Good to know they added all those little eye candy elements for Elizabeth to interact with before I start playing so I know to take my time.
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Mar 2013 19:33 Post subject: |
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Pre-order bonus 2 is almost unlocked! I got mine preordered! I really hope Bonus 3 gets unlocked! Free Xcom!! Probably the best pre-order bonus I have seen so far.
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Mar 2013 19:47 Post subject: |
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Oh god just make it a proper PC optimized...
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Mar 2013 21:17 Post subject: |
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| Intel_NVIDIA wrote: | | kryon wrote: | | Oh god just make it a proper PC optimized... |
it's UE3, is it even possible for it to not run good on PCs of today?  |
Very much so, see the launch of Red Orchestra 2.
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Mar 2013 06:35 Post subject: |
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Wow. Thought it was some sort of new engine. Bummer
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Mar 2013 11:08 Post subject: |
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Pretty old games. Ones i do not care about getting, and i doubt others do too, as long as they don't collect that is. I'd rather get the game cheaper too.
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chiv
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Mar 2013 11:08 Post subject: |
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by good deal he probably means more reasonably priced?
*edit: ah snap.
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D34Dite
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Mar 2013 12:10 Post subject: |
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£24 isnt reasonable? its £29.99 on steam and pretty much anywhere i have seen it, but i havent looked at (and i never do look at) the russian cd key sites
when there is no more room in hell, the D34D will walk the earth
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Mar 2013 12:20 Post subject: |
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I meant I own all those games GMG offers with BioShock Infinite.
I'm searching for a good deal which has some pre-order DLCs or some other fancy extras.
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