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Frant
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http://t.co/hrMWQE2JiU
It's really a joke this "hysteria"
There are worse problems to consider.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 20:51 Post subject: |
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yeah, seeing as there are other problems then this certainly becomes a non issue. I never thought i would hear such a stupid statement from you.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 20:56 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | then this certainly becomes a non issue. I never thought i would hear such a stupid statement from you. |
Never claimed such a thing.
I however claimed that proportionally this is "a joke".
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 21:01 Post subject: |
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Haven't really followed the "hysteria", but i fully understand if people are scared seeing as the meat comes from uknown sources. Honestly, i don't give a shit, i'll just wait it all out and buy a lasagna afterwards.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 21:09 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Haven't really followed the "hysteria", but i fully understand if people are scared seeing as the meat comes from uknown sources. Honestly, i don't give a shit, i'll just wait it all out and buy a lasagna afterwards. |
There was a report that this process has been going on for decades. And it really does not surprise me given the context and lack of regard for anything people in certain parts of the food industry have.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 21:14 Post subject: |
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It could be understandable if we were talking about some potentially dangerous consequence for public health.
It's horse meat, nothing more, humans have been eating horse meat for as long as we're human, it is a perfectly safe meat to consume, and from what I hear, it can be better than other animals currently massively consumed.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 21:15 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: | | Haven't really followed the "hysteria", but i fully understand if people are scared seeing as the meat comes from uknown sources. Honestly, i don't give a shit, i'll just wait it all out and buy a lasagna afterwards. |
There was a report that this process has been going on for decades. And it really does not surprise me given the context and lack of regard for anything people in certain parts of the food industry have. |
Where did all the war reports, corruption scandals, medical mistreatment system failures etc. go? It's all horse meat on every front page.... So I agree with you there. This is a question for the food industry regulators to deal with.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 21:25 Post subject: |
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My biggest issue with this entire ordeal is that you buy a product and get something else inside. When i order a ox steak, i certainly expect to get just that. And the same goes for any product i buy in the store.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 21:30 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | My biggest issue with this entire ordeal is that you buy a product and get something else inside. When i order a ox steak, i certainly expect to get just that. And the same goes for any product i buy in the store. |
Yes. That's established.
What isn't as established is how much of a first world problem that is.
I am more concerned with how the animals were treated in the first place.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 21:40 Post subject: |
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Which is a entirely different issue in itself and doesn't have anything to do with this. Are you saying i should accept this because other people have it worse than me?
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 21:41 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: | | My biggest issue with this entire ordeal is that you buy a product and get something else inside. When i order a ox steak, i certainly expect to get just that. And the same goes for any product i buy in the store. |
Yes. That's established.
What isn't as established is how much of a first world problem that is.
I am more concerned with how the animals were treated in the first place. |
That has to be one of the most meaningless arguments ever put forth in these circumstances.
We've killed them, skinned them, opened them and cut of their meat to sell it as a consumer product. And you find relevance in which extent they had a quick death with minimal agony.
Sincerely, that to me is just as hypocrital as bombing a playground and later on cry over all the dead children that were playing in it.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 21:49 Post subject: |
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Two wrong assumptions about my argument in the period of 30 minutes!
I don't really refer to the painful ways animals are killed, I refer to the chemicals, antibiotics and other treatments they receive that we ourselves ingest into our bodies.
The irony of it all.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 21:52 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Which is a entirely different issue in itself and doesn't have anything to do with this. Are you saying i should accept this because other people have it worse than me? |
You're saying that the antibiotics and chemicals that these horses receive (being one of the prime concerns in many of the articles surrounding these news) have nothing to do with it? The fact that people react to the fact that it is horsemeat, not the fact that horses are treated with chemicals that are considered dangerous to man (cancerous even) and cows to a lesser extent are.
People are so focused on horses and cows that they ignore the treatments of them.
But of course it is a different issue, it is an issue of ignorance versus "I want my beef if it says beef on the tin".
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 21:55 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | Two wrong assumptions about my argument in the period of 30 minutes!
I don't really refer to the painful ways animals are killed, I refer to the chemicals, antibiotics and other treatments they receive that we ourselves ingest into our bodies.
The irony of it all. |
My apologies then, I misinterpreted your argument as another often recurring argument in this sort of conversations.
Also, as a response to your real argument, I would assume that these horses were captured in the wild and killed rather fast, to minimize their presence in any slaughterhouse. Your concern has therefore a higher weight with regards to massively consumed meat, such as cow, chicken, pork, and so forth.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Mar 2013 21:56 Post subject: |
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I agree with you about the concerns of what this horse meat might contain in forms of medications and such. Take what i stated before as something i would say if we knew this horse meat was fine and just wrongly labeled and used in the wrong products by a mistake.
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