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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 10:20    Post subject:
So they are eating us alive again with Sim Shit like Diablo 3? That's too bad. I was ready to fuck that game hard!
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 11:13    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
Hell your almost making me want to buy 2 copies, just to make up for your zealot like behavior of trying to stop people from wanting to like it Laughing


You can always donate it to me! Laughing


Seeing I got unlucky in getting a beta for a while now (Always happens when I really want to try a game out for myself) and always arriving late to key giveaway's... do they have plans for a demo or a limited time session?

Just can't fork out money atm on something I haven't tried and see for myself that I enjoy it. Else it's going to be waiting for sales or the other less official demo.

But yeh nonetheless I'm looking forward to this one even with all the restrictions and the fear of EA's DLC drive. I used to play most sim games back in the days, I even loved sim farm (hides Very Happy) but after SC4 nothing really could give me the old Sim games feeling.

My girl thinks I got a weird taste in games tho... With me going: "ooh interesting" at games like: Kerbal, Euro truck sim, A-train, My spreadsheet paradox games... Atleast Sim city she gets and likes

Mm rambling again...

So my question was: Any talk of a demo? xD
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 14:51    Post subject:
Sotoro wrote:
Limited Edition Key for 39€:

http://de.mmoga.net/EA-Games/SimCity-Limited-Edition-Sim-City-5.html

This will be the retail price after release, nothing special, it is a normal price for a pc game. Also, cheaper keys will be available after launch i quess in the grey circuit. I wait for release anyway, the game could be fun, but i'm not surprised when it turns out to be an avarage, casual friendly game.

This one is 29,99 btw

http://cdkeyshere.com/
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 15:17    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
You obviously played for different reasons than I did.
I always played for the challenges..only time I needed a huge map was when I got bored and wanted to see what max population could possibly be. I always used the 'medium' size to try to cram all i needed into it and still cap at like 500k people.

So map size is no bother to me.
And who didnt plan zoning based on roads before? you was hoping for large high density apt complex on dirt roads? All they did was reverse the way it done, to do the same thing. Take out zone density types, which didnt care about roads...and make roads determine how many people can fit on it without traffic chaos. To me it works MUCH better than before of being able to plop high density commercial on a dirt road and watch it freak out. making you go back and tear up roads, replace them, realizing the new road is 2 pixels wider and going to auto kill all your buildings.

Farm and agriculture was only used by most order manic freaks as a steping stone to industrial. it was large, took up too much room, gave little in the way of jobs...it was just a 'cheap' starting industrial. Only reason to use it was if you was doing a city journal or wanted it for visual effects..the mechanic effects of it was useless.
I agree with region connections being forced, But I have no problems with it. I can make 40 connections to that one road if I wanted to. long as they can get out to where they want to go, I could care less if I laid the road outside or not.

Mod support is on its way..just like sc4, it had no 'official' mod support at launch either. Hell it didnt have it until AFTER the rush hour expansion.
http://www.shacknews.com/article/72768/simcity-designed-to-support-mods

Online doesnt bother me one bit. I mean I got always on cable for a reason. and you ask "what do you do if the servers or your internet goes out?" I do other things.. Same thing I do now if an MMO i'm playing and it happens. I go "well time to do something else".
What do I do when they shutdown the online? depends..if they make it a final offline patch, Ill play it that way, If they dont Ill get simcity 6. ONLY reason I still play 4 modded, is because nothing better to replace it.

Terraforming would have been nice..but its was usually just used as cheatmode for ingame cost terraforming. I rarely terraformed the maps, I like working with what I was dealt and trying to work despite it.

Overlays arent gone, there is more than sc4 had..there is so many I cant remember what all the icons stand for for each one after 60+ hours of playing.

Like I said, difference of opinion, Im not saying you need to hate it any less than you do. Just stop trying to convince people they are retarded because they dont.

It fills the long needed void of a good sim city game for me..cant let me enjoy it in peace? Razz

Hell your almost making me want to buy 2 copies, just to make up for your zealot like behavior of trying to stop people from wanting to like it Laughing


You've got sheep all over you. I'm surprised you can stand straight from how long you've been holding your ankles.

While they said the engine is moddable, how do you think mods are going to work online only, and if the mods compete with EAs DLC?
The article you link is almost a year old.

What if I want to put high capacity roads, but only put medium or low zones beside them? What then? Woops..

"If they dont Ill get simcity 6. "
This just takes the shill cake..

i suppose it's no surprise the two of you have similar avatars..


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 16:28    Post subject:
I picked up simcity 4 deluxe a while back on a steam sale did not play it until I recently read this thread. And it is great fun especially with 10 years of active mod support. I remember it being slow and unstable when I pirated it 10 years ago so I never put much time in it. But now it is excellent. I really do wonder how simcity 5 will be able to compete with simcity 4 given all the negative features EA is adding to the game and the positive features of simcity 4 and its thousands of mods. Maybe in a few years time ill be able to pick simcity 5 up for cheap after I see how it develops after its release.

Also while roaming for mods and maps and for ways how people play it I found this guy doing simcty 4 modded let's plays. And i found him to be very relaxing to listen to almost like a Bob Ross of simcity 4 let's play youtubes. Very Happy



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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 17:25    Post subject:
Now that i see that vid, i think i never really played SimCity 4 Shocked
Seems it was only SimCity 3 i played back then Sad
Time to download/install 4 then Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 17:34    Post subject:
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Maybe in a few years time ill be able to pick simcity 5 up for cheap after I see how it develops after its release.

By the time you can pick up for cheap, EA will be closing the servers down to make way for the next edition.


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 17:36    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
Badrien wrote:
stopped following this a while ago hoping someone can answer this for me to save me from wading trough all the pages.

Are the map sizes beta only or will there be bigger ones in the live game(or is this not know yet)?
How 'cramped' do the maps feel in the beta?


They are the same size, but you get more than the 7 beta has. and they are talking about larger region maps later on in the dev beta forums.

And depends on what you consider cramped. This one is a bit harder than sc4 as far as keeping people/stores/industry happy and still moving in, traffic is more complicated (since each car is a real car, and person a person) so I have yet to fill an entire map before running into the "I need to quit zoning, and straighten out my grid/services/traffic/transit systems. I've gotten one about 3/4 full.

If your into the speed zoning type of play, it might be cramped. Where you grid it out, plop down all your zones, and turn it on to run. But I do the opposite, I try to make a small corner area cram it with as MANY people as I can get to move in, before expanding another road or 2 out.


But then, as others have said, I want to play Sim CITY. Not Sim Small Town. And I don't want to pay DLC to get a city. My ass is not EA's ATM.
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 17:40    Post subject:
crossmr wrote:
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Maybe in a few years time ill be able to pick simcity 5 up for cheap after I see how it develops after its release.

By the time you can pick up for cheap, EA will be closing the servers down to make way for the next edition.


Dear god, you are almost as horrible as a person as EA is a business Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 17:57    Post subject:
Yeah because like 30$ for a game (not origin) is super expensive, work 2 hours & you made 30$, i know its a "piracy" forum and all but good god some people really need to complain about everything.
The whole DLC discussion is so dead end anyway, it's the way dev's do their thing nowadays, there's no stopping it so you might as well roll over, even kickstarters use a form of DLC.
I mean it's one thing to claim you're going to add an official orchestra soundtrack if they make 10.000$ more on their kickstarter but adding like a few new animations or some shit, it's the same thing but backwards.
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 17:58    Post subject:
crossmr wrote:

You've got sheep all over you. I'm surprised you can stand straight from how long you've been holding your ankles.

eh, so be it...If me finding it appealing to me more on the positives than the negative for my playstyle, I will be here bahhing my ass off with friends enjoying a game. Razz

To each their own, I in no way expect everyone to like it. medium zones aren't for everyone, some people used terraforming, and online DRM is a killer for some people.
To me, I really personally don't mind. But I think thats where you get confused...you mix up "doesnt bother him" with "sucking at the dev's teets".


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 21:23    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
Hell your almost making me want to buy 2 copies, just to make up for your zealot like behavior of trying to stop people from wanting to like it Laughing

Get one more for me please Very Happy
Not spending one buck on a single-player game that I can't play whenever/wherever I want (no matter how good it is, even for a proper simcity) Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 21:32    Post subject:
Why would I give it to someone that doesn't want it? Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 21:56    Post subject:
I will take it Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 21:59    Post subject:
Hands off! I was first! Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2013 22:39    Post subject:
As they say in my country

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Wenn zwei sich streiten, freut sich der Dritte?
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 02:13    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
crossmr wrote:
Quote:
Maybe in a few years time ill be able to pick simcity 5 up for cheap after I see how it develops after its release.

By the time you can pick up for cheap, EA will be closing the servers down to make way for the next edition.


Dear god, you are almost as horrible as a person as EA is a business Laughing


Do you really expect anything else from EA?
This is the problem. SC4 has survived for 10 years with great mods from the players. SC5 survives only at the whim of EA. With as much as they're pumping in to the server side, they're not going to be able to release an "offline" patch either, also part of their plan. When it comes time to shut it down because only the real fans are still playing it, the fans will say "give us an offline patch" and ea will say "Oh..we'd really love to our favored fans, but there is just so much being unnecessarily done on the server side couldn't possibly patch the game to move that all to the players computer, despite computers being 8x as powerful as when we released the game, but here, have a newsletter about SC6."


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 02:23    Post subject:
It was more about you being so eager to jump on a little sentence the guy wrote to spew your hate. I have no illusions on EA's practice.

Just that you are easily calling someone a shill, yet you are even more devoted with spreading your hate. You made your point, just dial it a bit down on jumping on even the little notions of positiveness someone can have on this game.


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 08:54    Post subject:
Apparently I accidentally logged into bizarro nfohump where EA deserves the benefit of the doubt or anything other than pure hatred for the way they run their house and destroy franchises.


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 08:56    Post subject:
Yep, there is 2 options on the normal nfohump, agree with crossmr on games, or your a game dev stroker Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 08:58    Post subject:
Is this better?
"EA has taken the SC genre, bent it over a rusty fence and cornholed it before giving it a dirty sanchez,then kicked it in the ass over the fence and walking off while calling it a slut"

Not sure what you want from us? too agree with you? to side with you? to change our views? what exactly will appease you on this?


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 09:33    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
Yep, there is 2 options on the normal nfohump, agree with crossmr on games, or your a game dev stroker Laughing

You seem to be missing the obvious.
1-you're defending a game that is pretty much universally agreed by anyone genuinely interested in the SC franchise as sub-par bordering on complete and utter failure.
2-you're also siding with a company that until this thread ranked right above pedophiles on the nfohump love scale.

it's also convenient that two of the most repeated defenders share a similarly themed avatar and a rather similar style to how they articulate their defense of the game..

As a somewhat mediocre comedian once said, you may not be a shill, but you're wearing a shill's uniform.


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 09:58    Post subject:
Ok, but what do you WANT?
You want me to agree with you? to take your side? to change my mind? not sure what you are actually expecting of me here..

I've acknowledged you don't like the game. I and understand the points why. what else is there to bitch at us about? Im deeply sorry that me enjoying the game in the privacy of my own home pisses you off so bad..I mean since you want it to fail, are you wanting me not to buy it, to prove YOUR point to them? Im confused.
I mean sorry I dont follow the same opinion..its an o-p-i-n-i-o-n...

And call me a shill, a suckup, a fanboi, a sheeple..really I dont think its having the effect on me you wish it did. What someone I never met, or never will, types about me on some random site about what they view me as doesn't really taint my self esteem or personal perception..I mean its just insulting me for your own satisfaction at this point.
When you have to resort to name calling to reinforce a point your making, it just means you ran out of real viable constructive thoughts to convey. You went from trying to make your point, to just trying to make the other guy feel bad for his.

And wait, you saying me and Silent_Lurker are the same person? Confused If not, im not quite sure whats convenient about having very vaguely similar avatars (they are both aliens of some sort?). how does that convenience us in anyway?


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 10:27    Post subject:
crossmr wrote:
Apparently I accidentally logged into bizarro nfohump where EA deserves the benefit of the doubt or anything other than pure hatred for the way they run their house and destroy franchises.


Again you misinterpret my comment on your behaviour with me somehow accepting EA's practices.

It's simple: if people enjoy the game... let them instead of always pounding them with the EA hate? EA sucks we all know it, doesn't mean everything is bad in a game just because it has EA written on it.

And fricking stop with the whole shill calling, did you just discovered that word and went "AHMGHAD!!!! Have to use it in every post" getting repetitive and sorry but you seem like you want everyone to stop playing a game cause EA makes you furious...

Just make an Anti EA thread, let's discuss EA there instead of polluting a games thread with a broken record. Not saying you can't voice your opinion but always repeating and name calling... sorry but that is just obnoxious behaviour.

Anywho let's talk about the game again...
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 14:09    Post subject:
When SC5 dies, they will probably pull the plug on the servers so if you want to play more, you have to buy SC6.
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 15:12    Post subject:
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When SC5 dies, they will probably pull the plug on the servers so if you want to play more, you have to buy SC6.


Why would you continue to play SC5 if an AwesOMG SC6 is out, in the first place ? Very Happy
And it is not like SC6 will be out within 10 years, right ?

@crossmr You really start to become funny here Laughing

While waiting for SC5 I just gave Cities XL Platinum another try ... errr still a no go for me.
As nothing have changed/been fixed and it run like crap once you get a XL citie. (one cpu @100%, yeah well.... )

I then launched SC4 Dlx ... errr, well always a nice game but ... it is definitely getting old.

And then I just realized I bought Tropico 4 complete edtion, on the last Steam sales ...
Hey, what a nice game, should do the trick untill next month Mr. Green


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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Feb 2013 17:24    Post subject:
I say just wait and see, lot of doom crying, speculation, and 'what will you do' about how/when/if they take the online part down....on a game thats not even out yet.

People keep asking "what will you do?"
I do not know, they haven't done it yet to see what the options are is...Ask me that question when I can answer it Razz

I mean Ive spent $50 on an MMO, AND $15 a month on something that down the road the servers went down..Was it wasted money too? No. I enjoyed what I got for that money. So same here if worst comes to worse and thats the outcome.

More than likely worst that happens it will be like sc4, that I play when bored because I like it..So by that time, if they DO totally reem people with "going offline, sucks to be you!" will just be a reply from me of "ah well, didnt play it much anymore anyway other than a passing time killer"
Way I look at it, I spend $70 a week killing myself with cigarettes. If I can get 4-5 months of enjoyment out of it before bored/tired of it/game flopped..I got my monies worth.


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