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 Posted: Sat, 9th Feb 2013 05:51 Post subject: Now i know, first hand, how much a life is worth |
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A teacher got kidnapped in front of the whole school by loan sharks and turned up dead 2 hours later. 2 of the killers are jailed.
I just arrived home and i heard the talk from close friends of mine, one of the killers is the nephew of the loanshark and he lives near us and hangs out with some of my neighborns, he was the one who moved the teacher out of the school.
He related that the teacher owned his uncle 400,000 pesos, they wanted to shake him up, scare him so they kidnapped him and drove him around, then the guy jumped from the moving car and then they shot him trying to scare him... they shot him in the back (what a load of bs) the guy was abandoned and he died. A lot of witnesses linked them (everyone saw him being kidnapped) and they admited kidnapping and shooting him to "scare him"
While i was hearing the talk, the nephew called one of my friends from jail, saying that he was being released in a couple of days.
Fuck this shit, seriously. Fuck this crap, fuck justice, fuck crime, fuck everything, i cant fucking believe that a life is worth so little.
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Feb 2013 05:59 Post subject: |
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Feb 2013 06:00 Post subject: |
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There's always Europe, Spain for instance. Similar weather (but calmer) and you can go up north and ski in the mountains. Meanwhile it's not a lawless latin american hellhole (at least nowhere like in the Dominican Republic).
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Feb 2013 06:01 Post subject: |
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9815$ debt is worth a murder? woa
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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Feb 2013 07:52 Post subject: |
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| BettyShikle wrote: | | 9815$ debt is worth a murder? woa |
Junkie will stab you for $10. |
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Feb 2013 12:02 Post subject: |
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it's not all about the money, it's also about respect and not fucking with people who lend you the money, and avoiding to return money, loansharks has a habit to abnormally ask for more money so every time "you" need money think twice, to avoid problems.
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Feb 2013 13:35 Post subject: |
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That's kinda hard to estimate. There is a ton of factors affecting. I can tell you the latest few convictions I've read about in the newspapers. One conviction was 40 years sentence, one was 35 and the last one 30 or 35, not sure. Also, do note that in Serbia, maximum prison sentence is 40 years.
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Ankh
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But thats not bad sentences tbh. Better than many other countries
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Feb 2013 13:53 Post subject: |
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I suppose so. But like I said, many factors are taken into considerations. I've seen sentences of like 15 years too. Or 16, 18, etc.
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Feb 2013 13:56 Post subject: |
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| H4wkeye wrote: | | I suppose so. But like I said, many factors are taken into considerations. I've seen sentences of like 15 years too. Or 16, 18, etc. |
Atleast its not like here in sweden (where we do have life sentence - but ive seen people get out after a year in prison too!)
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Feb 2013 14:00 Post subject: |
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| Ankh wrote: | | H4wkeye wrote: | | I suppose so. But like I said, many factors are taken into considerations. I've seen sentences of like 15 years too. Or 16, 18, etc. |
Atleast its not like here in sweden (where we do have life sentence - but ive seen people get out after a year in prison too!) |
That sucks... I don't think I've ever heard of someone going out after a year here.
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Feb 2013 14:53 Post subject: |
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| Ankh wrote: | | kazemaky wrote: | in estonia you get a joke sentence for murder too.  |
Whats the average sentence for murder in Estonia? Estimate..
same question goes to the rest of you about your home countries. Would be interesting to know  |
Here average sentence for planned murder is about 10.5 years of prison + limitation of freedom for about 1.5 years (Person is forbidden to enter public places cinemas, restaurants etc. ). But it's still possible to get a life sentence.
EDIT: Fixed. 17.5 is for terrorism  |
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Feb 2013 06:44 Post subject: |
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Psf, murder here usually u get 1 year and then you pay bond and ur out. unless its a high high media attention case, which rarely happens.
Also heard another story that night a cousin of one of our neighborns got caught dealing 40 kilos of cocaine to a captain from the local "DEA", they set him up and caught him red handed selling it. He payed 2.5 million pesos and was free, they only told him to get out of the country and he currently lives in USA, with all this dirty money.
Oh life....
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Feb 2013 10:44 Post subject: |
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| Lopin18 wrote: | Psf, murder here usually u get 1 year and then you pay bond and ur out. unless its a high high media attention case, which rarely happens.
Also heard another story that night a cousin of one of our neighborns got caught dealing 40 kilos of cocaine to a captain from the local "DEA", they set him up and caught him red handed selling it. He payed 2.5 million pesos and was free, they only told him to get out of the country and he currently lives in USA, with all this dirty money.
Oh life.... |
Daaamn, you'd get locked up for good for that much cocaine here. Also, here is an example of bullshit in our justice system, a guy was driving drunk, he ran over two teens and killed them both. He's 27. In the past, he was fined and suspended 6 times for driving under the influence of alcohol. He got sentenced to 11 years, but today, for some reason, the appeal court lowered his sentence to 8 years + 5 years license suspension after he gets out.... Thats fucking BULLSHIT. He should've gotten 20 years.... piece of shit drunk drivers.
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Feb 2013 13:56 Post subject: |
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| Przepraszam wrote: |
Junkie will stab you for $10. |
(try to) beat you up/rob you,steal some things etc,yes.Stab you?Not really
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Feb 2013 22:28 Post subject: Re: Now i know, first hand, how much a life is worth |
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| Lopin18 wrote: | A teacher got kidnapped in front of the whole school by loan sharks and turned up dead 2 hours later. 2 of the killers are jailed.
I just arrived home and i heard the talk from close friends of mine, one of the killers is the nephew of the loanshark and he lives near us and hangs out with some of my neighborns, he was the one who moved the teacher out of the school.
He related that the teacher owned his uncle 400,000 pesos, they wanted to shake him up, scare him so they kidnapped him and drove him around, then the guy jumped from the moving car and then they shot him trying to scare him... they shot him in the back (what a load of bs) the guy was abandoned and he died. A lot of witnesses linked them (everyone saw him being kidnapped) and they admited kidnapping and shooting him to "scare him"
While i was hearing the talk, the nephew called one of my friends from jail, saying that he was being released in a couple of days.
Fuck this shit, seriously. Fuck this crap, fuck justice, fuck crime, fuck everything, i cant fucking believe that a life is worth so little. |
Slowly but suraly you are making sure I'll never visit your lovely country.
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Feb 2013 23:15 Post subject: |
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A friend of my family went to Dominican Republic. The place they stayed at was fantastic, but it was some special tourist complex, full of hotels and stuff, and they were advised not to leave the secured area.
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Feb 2013 05:11 Post subject: |
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If you come here, follow the tourist guide and zones, and DO NOT GO OUT alone to walk or at night, you will not know which places are dangerous and how you are gonna get caught. Otherwise its pretty safe, you just have to know what to do and not do. If theres one thing that our fucking politicians protect is tourism, everything else? fuck it.
But living here? its fucking hell. the father of a coworker was ran over while riding a motorcycle by a lady in a big suv. she kept going and stopped pretty far when the radiator blew up. she killed him and a passenger.
My coworker told me that the lady is gonna go free, i almost cried in front of him, i dont think i could handle something like that. according to some other coworkers the law actually benefits you if ur victim is dead. But if the victim is injured, you are pretty fucked, so in short, if u run over a cyclist, put reverse and kill him, its safer that way. What kind of fucking example is that. The worst thing is that she was proved have left them for dead and ran away, and her insurance is getting her free.
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dsergei
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Feb 2013 05:31 Post subject: |
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| BettyShikle wrote: | | Przepraszam wrote: |
Junkie will stab you for $10. |
(try to) beat you up/rob you,steal some things etc,yes.Stab you?Not really |
I did a uni internship at the prosecutor's office like 7 years ago. There was a case of a homeless guy killing another with a knife over a 2$ bottle of Eau de Cologne they were about to drink.
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And in case someone wonders why 11 years for a kilo and 7 for 5 grams, heroin is considered higher class substance here and much more dangerous.
