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| Mister_s wrote: | | Could you compare it to another jRPG please? |
I know it's already been said, but I think that the Dragon Quest 8 comparison is really good. The combat reminds me a bit of Rogue Galaxy (another Level 5 game from the PS2 era), but shifted heavily toward the traditional jrpg side.
I have almost nothing but good things to say about this game, but I do have a few points of criticism.
First, as with every attempt to "modernize" traditional jrpg battle mechanics, it often just results in a bunch of useless fluff that generally doesn't matter and only serves as bloat. The melee attack system, which is essentially a command you hit to start the character melee attacking for several seconds, often ends in the character/familiar ignoring your careful positioning for a weak spot or w/e and moving around the enemy to an undesirable location.
I think the combat is just incredibly clumsy, and yet another example of developers breaking something further in an attempt to fix it. The worst part is that, when backtracking to get some shit you missed or couldn't take before, the age-old jrpg problem of low-level shit enemies still taking you into the combat system and then the loot readout/exp/"ehrmagehrd my shitty familiar 34125414 just leveled" up screens come up from behind you and buttfucks another 30 seconds out of your life. I think I'm being generous when I say that at least 8% of your gameplay time will probably end up being spent fighting shitty low level enemies that you want to run past.
Speaking of which, the second point is all of the backtracking. I spent the early parts of the game thinking that certain spots in every zone would later on serve as a fast travel system. But it's actually a way to store/retrieve your pokemons. And if you're like me and you absolutely insist on getting 100% completion in games you're in for a lot of traveling.
For anyone who has played Blue Dragon you might remember the little forcefields that covered some chests, which later on you could remove with a red/green/blue/whatever device. Well, there's something similar in this game with certain chests that you can't open right away. The worst part is that you aren't really given any idea what level your open-this-shit wand has to be to open it, and if your shit isn't high enough it just tells you to come back with a more powerful one. So you could spend 20 mins backtracking to some dungeon you were at 10 hours earlier just to find out that you STILL can't open it. At least Blue Dragon had a fast travel system to compensate for its bullshit.
Finally, without spoiling anything for those who haven't played it yet, the character interactions that make the main character look like a lunatic who talks to himself. This shit annoys me endlessly. Not so much the fact that these interactions occur, but the fact that he almost never gets called out on it. No one calls the funny farm on Oliver. If I lived in his hometown I'd be worried that one day his imaginary friend would tell him to burn down my house, but no, people are just all "silly Oliver, you're so energetic!"
In fact, I could go on at length about how much I hate the people in his hometown. They're all psychopaths. They should be looking out for Oliver, but instead they just let him trip out imagining that he's traveling to some other world, savings its inhabitants from a wizard.
Anyway, despite those things really driving me crazy, this is by far the best pure jrpg that I've played this console generation. The last one I enjoyed was probably Resonance of Fate, and that was three years ago or something.
I would thoroughly encourage anyone who has yet to get it to get it. Now.
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Jan 2013 19:53 Post subject: |
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Thank you for that thorough post.
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Jan 2013 20:47 Post subject: |
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| Ishkur123 wrote: | luckily, im not plagued by any freezes now (except the wizard book). Got 12 hours played and i had said hardcore freeze only once in the beginning.
Im on external with the duplex and have all the options in multiman launch thingy turned off (bd mirror, usb bla, etc.). Dunno if that has anything to do with it. |
Im 13 hours in and no crashes with BD mirror and external drive on, rest off.
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sTo0z
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Jan 2013 21:34 Post subject: |
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So I FTPd the packages over to my PS3.. Went into MM and selected the first Package file, hit X to "queue" it or whatever, it went into a screen that says "Please wait..." and has been there probably over 25 minutes now.
Continue to wait or did something break?
EDIT: It went!
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Jan 2013 21:57 Post subject: |
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wow you have very old Rogero cfw and old multiman. you don't need to wait any more to mount pkgs for installing.
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sTo0z
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2013 01:09 Post subject: |
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I have the latest MM... I update it all the time????
I'm on Rogero 4.31, is there more versions that that?
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NFOAC
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2013 15:06 Post subject: |
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I'm on 2.03 and it's the same long time and I guess it's only 2.05 after that so ad to do with multiman
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2013 15:56 Post subject: |
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| NFOAC wrote: | | I'm on 2.03 and it's the same long time and I guess it's only 2.05 after that so ad to do with multiman |
2.03 still didn't have old style install packages menu back if i remember right. it was put back in in 2.04 and 2.05
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2013 16:27 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2013 18:23 Post subject: |
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I'm on Rogero CFW 4.30 v2.03, with the latest multiMAN and it doesn't take longer than a second for me. Are you guys mounting the .pkg files from external?
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NFOAC
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2013 18:30 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2013 18:44 Post subject: |
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| cheat2win wrote: | | I'm on Rogero CFW 4.30 v2.03, with the latest multiMAN and it doesn't take longer than a second for me. Are you guys mounting the .pkg files from external? |
latest multiman allowed fast pkg mounting on rogero 2.03. if you have old multiman and rog 2.03 it will take forever to mount 16GB pkg. best thing to do is just update to rog 2.05 and have old install packaged menu back.
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2013 21:14 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Jan 2013 10:00 Post subject: |
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| headshot wrote: | | http://kotaku.com/5979926/ni-no-kuni-is-gorgeous-reviewers-agree-but-not-everyone-is-head-over-heels |
All the flaws (especially in combat as I see) that are mentioned by these reviewers are laughable. So, what did they expect? It's a JRPG and that's how combat is in these type of games. Again, Ni No Kuni's combat has some fresh ideas and it's much more tactical than other similar games.
For sure I didn't see these reviewers being so much "sensitive" when they reviewed the last Final Fantasy game..
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Jan 2013 18:08 Post subject: |
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| fearwhatnow wrote: |
All the flaws (especially in combat as I see) that are mentioned by these reviewers are laughable. So, what did they expect? It's a JRPG and that's how combat is in these type of games. Again, Ni No Kuni's combat has some fresh ideas and it's much more tactical than other similar games.
For sure I didn't see these reviewers being so much "sensitive" when they reviewed the last Final Fantasy game.. |
I say this as someone who really likes Ni no Kuni.
You must be smoking the wrong shit if you can't see that the combat system is inferior to many other JRPGs. Not all by a long shot, but many. Even the system for telling your squad what to do is awkward at best. You might want to try playing a few more JRPGs before making the outrageous statement that the combat system in Ni no Kuni is anything other than sub-par.
And no, it doesn't really have any fresh ideas for combat.
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Jan 2013 21:02 Post subject: |
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How much space do I need to install? After putting the files on the internal HDD I'm left with 20GB. Is that enough?
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Jan 2013 21:16 Post subject: |
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well game in PKG form is 21.6GB, and PKGs can extract to larger size... so you need at least 23-24GB for install
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Jan 2013 21:17 Post subject: |
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Shiiiiiiiiieeeet. Any way to remove some things? Without games on it I have 41GB left. It's the first 60GB model I believe.
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Jan 2013 21:30 Post subject: |
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install on external drive, check last page
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Jan 2013 21:49 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Shiiiiiiiiieeeet. Any way to remove some things? Without games on it I have 41GB left. It's the first 60GB model I believe. |
can't you install part one of the pkg first and then delete it, afterwards installing the second?
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Jan 2013 23:33 Post subject: |
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I can't seem to figure it out. I did the reactpsn thing, I installed the pkgs (I had to manually install both), I logged in to PSN (since I was asked to do when I tried to start the game), but I get an error saying copyright info is invalid. I assume reactpsn didn't do what it was supposed to do. I tried doing the reactpsn thing again (deleted profile and app), but I get the same error.
I'm on rogero CFW 4.30 and latest MM.
edit: I see I also have to activate the my PS3 or something by downloading from the PSN store. When I try it it tells me it needs to download software first. I assume it's a FW update?
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 00:23 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | I can't seem to figure it out. I did the reactpsn thing, I installed the pkgs (I had to manually install both), I logged in to PSN (since I was asked to do when I tried to start the game), but I get an error saying copyright info is invalid. I assume reactpsn didn't do what it was supposed to do. I tried doing the reactpsn thing again (deleted profile and app), but I get the same error.
I'm on rogero CFW 4.30 and latest MM.
edit: I see I also have to activate the my PS3 or something by downloading from the PSN store. When I try it it tells me it needs to download software first. I assume it's a FW update? |
I believe the store itself has to download some kind of new store app, or a store update. It is NOT a fw update.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong tho. |
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 00:29 Post subject: |
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its just a store update, not unlike a game update, dont worry.
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 10:05 Post subject: |
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yea but if its a pre-cracked pkg, you wont be able to install updates, reactpsn is the cleaner way.
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 12:29 Post subject: |
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Is there any way to install the free or preorder familiars?
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2013 13:00 Post subject: |
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@The_Zeel: can I use reactpsn after I install the pkgs? Or do I have to install them all over again after doing the reactpsn thing again?
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