Only 1.2 teraflops on Durango's gpu . Thats low-end card for today's standards:< They should aim for around 2 teraflops like ps4 (6870 mid segment) imo.
Didn't they mention sometime back that they are looking for Online Activation of games
Yeah but those were just rumours, and I doubt they're actually going to do that. THe thing I was talking about was on the consoles, not tied with any online function.
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Anyone else not that impressed with GPU performance?
Not sure what to think about it, I mean the curent x360 has a GPU based on the ati x1800 (or was it x1900) and that doesn't show at all. Haven't seen a rig with a x1900 VGA pulling off what the x360 had all these years.
But like you said, it is a bit lacklustre... maybe they don't plan to keep it form ore than 5 yrs like they did with this gen or they have other plans.
Didn't they mention sometime back that they are looking for Online Activation of games
If they do that. It will be hard to hack the consoles right?
online activation makes playing games online virtually impossible bar cracked servers which seems very unlikely. Single player games would be more do-able but they need to first hack the consoles to even be able to think about that.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
If you look at the stats for Xbox alone, it would seem unlikely that they'll be online activation for single player games.
Using here as a source (and yes it's date I know but gives us a ballpark) but there where 57.8 million xbox sales and 30 Million Xbox Live subscribers. You can assume that maybe people don't connect to the net so you'd be killing off potentially a lot of your customer base.
Plus, they were just rumors. MS and Sony haven't said anything confirming or denying most of the stuff we see in the 'leak' material.
Take for example how the gaming press validates it's sources (or not as it turns out). Yesterday's article found here is precisily why we need to take any leak with a pinch/bucket of salt.
Well one thing is sure about such a thing.
If you have more then 1 consoles wich are closely the same in everything, but one has tougher protection against copied games, people gonna get the other ones instead...
So unless all have the same kind of protection, the ones with the hardest to crack is going to fail.
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Well one thing is sure about such a thing.
If you have more then 1 consoles wich are closely the same in everything, but one has tougher protection against copied games, people gonna get the other ones instead...
So unless all have the same kind of protection, the ones with the hardest to crack is going to fail.
Not at all. The PS3 has outsold the Xbox 360 on current all time sales (source). The PS3 is also the harder one to crack.
Who cares about console sales, Japan loves ps3 and is not as fond of 360, that is known. The key is the kind of headway the xbox has made from xbox 1 to xbox 360, its their second iteration and they are doing great, sony had proved themselves with the psx and ps2 so ps3 making sales isn't a big surprise. Now that 360 brought the real faith to gamers I feel 720 will blow away the ps4, especially for anyone looking for a compelling online experience. I have both consoles and ps3 sits unused as I'm primarily an online gamer. We will see I guess but This is the make or break for Sony, either this console is a huger success or this is their last console. Especially with their stock going south during the ps3 time period
Also if you look at the previous consoles,
xbox 1 = around 25 million consoles sold worldwide
xbox 360 = around 70 million
ps2 = 160 million
ps3 = 70 million
microsoft has taken a huge portion of their market and if this continues, they will be gone by ps5/xbox 1440.
Well one thing is sure about such a thing.
If you have more then 1 consoles wich are closely the same in everything, but one has tougher protection against copied games, people gonna get the other ones instead...
So unless all have the same kind of protection, the ones with the hardest to crack is going to fail.
Not at all. The PS3 has outsold the Xbox 360 on current all time sales (source). The PS3 is also the harder one to crack.
But he said "If you have more then 1 consoles wich are closely the same in everything".
The PS3 can play BRs, maybe people are also buying it for that?
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
Well one thing is sure about such a thing.
If you have more then 1 consoles wich are closely the same in everything, but one has tougher protection against copied games, people gonna get the other ones instead...
So unless all have the same kind of protection, the ones with the hardest to crack is going to fail.
Not at all. The PS3 has outsold the Xbox 360 on current all time sales (source). The PS3 is also the harder one to crack.
But he said "If you have more then 1 consoles wich are closely the same in everything".
The PS3 can play BRs, maybe people are also buying it for that?
True, but then it would also mean it's a throwaway statement as none of the consoles for this generation and the previous are " closely the same in everything" as all had something unique if we break it down to that level.
But, yeah, BR will have boosted sales (just like HD did with the 360 back in the day)
if they focus on games rather than gimmicks then all the best. game protection doesn't matter. just buy a game three weeks after it comes out and you'll get it significantly cheaper.
i'm really worried that next ps4 x3 gen is going to be more focused on entertainment rather than games. and i really wish we'd see something new from sony / msft. msft has really no decent ips that are worth buying a console for. there are better games than halo and gow and forza. fable became a joke ps3 has at least one franchise worth checking out, everything else is really stale and hasn't achieved the level of epicness the ps2 / xbox / dreamcast / gc / n64 / snes / psx games had. which is really scary if you think about it. the future of games is not a pretty one. more cinematic experiences. less stressful gameplay. one button victory. easy simple lazy level design. linear / scripted events. Nintendo is also plagued by some of these fuck ups, but at least they're focusing more on actual gameplay than epic story lines + amazing gfx.
but given that the next ps4 and x3 wont be super brilliant hardcore beasts (ps4 will alone cost 600)
the biggest selling feature for next gen (since it wont really be a graphical leap) will be the backwards compatibility. how well it's implemented and how it handles old games on a new system.
br boosted sales because sony charged an arm and a leg for the tech when it came out. so you had br players costing 1500 and ps3 was significantly cheaper. now you have br players with better read speeds than the ps3 for less than 100. lol
Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..."
SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies"
deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"
if next gen is anything like how nintendo started then next gen is gonna be epic (creative challenging gameplay). unless it remains stale like the past 4 years of this gen where only a handful of games are worth playing then it'll be shit. I hope for better fps experience. better adventure games. creative games. but then again... last gen was dominated by dudebros... and that's where the money is. so next gen will be dudebro once again.
they should. they should get the fuck out of here and the classic ideal of gameplay above everything should come back. it would really suck if more gameplay oriented titles were the focus of an already almost dead console (the wiiU). because ... it didn't sell so we aren't going to pursue it ... should never stop publishers from fetching new to enhance the games. ffs... wii had some of the best gameplay focused games in the last generation. while ps3 had gameplay bugged games that were just cinematic though i do like the adrenaline feel of uncharted when shit happens and i do dislike not being able to beat a level in mario.
GAH well at least kinect 2.0 and move 2.0 will have epic shovelware.
Waldo, you can't have gameplay-oriented games, or real story oriented games, because then the average COD-playing "fuck yeah thats bad ass" hurr durr couch potato with 1 second attention span won't ask his mommy to buy gaemz for him and DLC DLC DLC $$$ $$$ $$$.
well for this gen until some real gem surprises me from the big boys im sticking with nintendo. so far zombi u, the new mario game and nintendo land... they've all been a focus of gameplay rather than story. so right now it's win plus a backlog of the epic games on the wii (mario galaxy 1 and 2 and a few others) I'll have my gameplay oriented games
I'm still pissed that heavy rain is such a mess when it comes to gameplay and the issues in uncharted series like naughty dog... YOU DID CRASH! HOW CAN YOU FUCK UP GAMEPLAY! and insomniac was ruined by that shitty world war x aliens game. They have such amazing talent and yet sony is putting them to such shitty games UGH!!! Disgusting. I hope there'll be at least a few decent games in the next gen. At the end of this one... looking back... there's a handful from each system and that's fucking sad.
Edit. No haven't. looking at it now. \o/
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getting it for my wii u cause of the radar on the smaller screen = god
lol such a subdued speech. did they hire the duke nukem guy and then told him to whisper yell? like no impact at all. elba had more impact in his little speech in the trailer for pacific rim. WTF
Waldo, you can't have gameplay-oriented games, or real story oriented games, because then the average COD-playing "fuck yeah thats bad ass" hurr durr couch potato with 1 second attention span won't ask his mommy to buy gaemz for him and DLC DLC DLC $$$ $$$ $$$.
Red Dead Redemption, MGS4, God of War 3, Ratchet and Clank, Legend of Zelda, some of the new Mario games, Forza, Shadow Complex, Ikaruga, Metroid Prime.
All gameplay oriented games exclusives to consoles which I have played (I'm sure I have missed many more). Seems possible to me.
Oh, don't preach to the quire. Of course it's possible. And yet, you mention some dubious ones, and even if not dubious, a handful of games in so many years. A of gaming indeed.
out of all the games you mentioned, mr_s, ratchet and clank, red dead, legend of zelda and shadow complex stand out. mgs 4 suffers from control issues as well. forza is just a racing sim and need for speed shift 1 and 2 beat it by a mile.
And ratchet and clank is dead. insomniac was forced to kill it with the move. and since ww x aliens didn't do well... im worried insomniac may not deliver a new decent game. though i'd gladly buy a ps4 for a new ratchet and clank game. God of war was really horrible.
mario galaxy 1 and 2 are epic adventure games. heck epic mickey 1 was good too. smash bros. boy and his blob. xenoblade. metroid prime series. donkey kong country returns. and many more were gameplay focused games. So that's purdy impressive. and a handful of games for the wii that surpass the gameplay aspect of many games from the other consoles. and what sucks is that they're seen as casual games and hardcore fags won't touch them.
if the guys who brought us crash and ratchet can go back to their roots then games will be awesome. so many awesome games from the psx / n64 era have godlike gameplay. and now we're all focused on the dudebro bull shit. i'm hoping naughty dog will improve their uncharted gameplay mechanic with the last of us... but i've seen the vids and it looks like the same shit only with a new paint coat.
Do we need many exclusive titles to make the next gen awesome? There were a shitload of awesome games this gen. They just weren't all exclusive to one console, which doesn't really matter, does it? I don't care if someone on ps3 or pc can also enjoy skyrim if I'm enjoying it on 360.
And yeah of course the gaming landscape is changing but you can't be serious in saying something like an old crash bandicoot has better gameplay or is a better overall game than Arkham Asylum/City?? There are still A LOT of gems out there. I've been in the console game since the SNES and had every console that came out after that. And I can honestly say that I have never had so many great gaming experiences as I had this generation. Of course games like Secret of Mana will always have a special place in my heart but that doesn't mean they were better than todays rpgs. Don't let your fun get spoiled by nostalgia...
Edit: If I had something like Oblivion back then, I would have never left the house again
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plus a backlog of the epic games on the wii (mario galaxy 1 and 2 and a few others) I'll have my gameplay oriented games 
