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thenormal02




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Dec 2012 10:25    Post subject: RLSLOG undergoing internal changes... NZBMatrix fated?
After NZBMatrix, another one will probably bite the dust

http://bit.ly/YWwEE4
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Dec 2012 11:23    Post subject:
I still have a link to the RLSLOG RSS feed since the old days, but I have never actually used it for years now Smile

I have to wonder what happened recently that allows for such actions to be taken by the companies. DMCAs existed for a long time and if there was always a possibility to use them in such a damaging way, why wasn't it ever done before?
I mean all this time they were trying to find ways to bring these sites down and it never worked, or took a whole lot of effort to make any kind of progress. And now they just send out a whole bunch of DMCAs and that's all it takes Smile
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UreKismet




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Dec 2012 12:04    Post subject:
If I had to guess, it would be that martin is shit scared hollywood will pull a kim dotcom style gag on him and take all his money n assets.
Dotcom's extradition hasn't been going too well so now megaupload and dotcom have been hit with a civil lawsuit which according to dotcom is basically a cut and paste of the FBI charges.

[url] http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10856439[/url]

The Hollywood lawyers who are running that lawsuit had been sitting waiting for the extradition to proceed and were going to crank it up once dotcom got to the US, but now they are sayin that will take too long and have asked their judge to proceed with asset sequestration.

That is gonna be tough if it gets up because unlike the criminal charges megaupload had, no assets from a civil case have to be 'unfrozen' to enable adequate & competent defense.
Meaning giving the civil case precedence could turn off the tap for the lawyers on the criminal case as well. This has happened because the NZ judges have been musing loudly about the assets not having been properly confiscated and maybe they should be returned -cept of course they are all in the hands of the US feds now and they aren't gonna pay any attention to what judges in another jurisdiction think.

So since releaselog martin is reputed to like money and what it buys rather more than he likes most other things you'd hafta think getting dotcommed is prolly his biggest nightmare.
I'm suprised he didn't pull out a while back but maybe he just couldn't resist sitting under the cash waterfall just a little longer.
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chiv




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Dec 2012 12:33    Post subject:
the guy that runs rlslog is a douche. the site is handy as a release list, but doesnt change the fact that hes an asshole Smile
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Dec 2012 12:45    Post subject:
MinderMast wrote:

I have to wonder what happened recently that allows for such actions to be taken by the companies. DMCAs existed for a long time and if there was always a possibility to use them in such a damaging way, why wasn't it ever done before?


My guess is that the infrastructure wasnt there until now.
Law firms have been sprouting like mushrooms in the past couple of years, its not the big corporations themselves that do the anti-piracy work anymore but specialized independent contractors.
And they as well play by the rules of the free market, they are in competition with each other and actively make money not only by being contracted but also by directly threatening infringers and extorting money.

In short: Anti-piracy has become an industry in itself and it seems to be booming.
Earlier it was about diverting monetary resources to deter piracy, now its about actively making money OFF it.

Oh, they all like the money dont they?
Anti-pirates as well as pirates...so the game has changed.
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gibman70




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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Dec 2012 00:34    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
MinderMast wrote:

I have to wonder what happened recently that allows for such actions to be taken by the companies. DMCAs existed for a long time and if there was always a possibility to use them in such a damaging way, why wasn't it ever done before?


My guess is that the infrastructure wasnt there until now.
Law firms have been sprouting like mushrooms in the past couple of years, its not the big corporations themselves that do the anti-piracy work anymore but specialized independent contractors.
And they as well play by the rules of the free market, they are in competition with each other and actively make money not only by being contracted but also by directly threatening infringers and extorting money.

In short: Anti-piracy has become an industry in itself and it seems to be booming.
Earlier it was about diverting monetary resources to deter piracy, now its about actively making money OFF it.

Oh, they all like the money dont they?
Anti-pirates as well as pirates...so the game has changed.


SOOOO true...these companies couldnt really give a fuck about the piracy itself - they just want the money for the anti-piracy work Sad
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UreKismet




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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Dec 2012 01:18    Post subject:
gibman70 wrote:

SOOOO true...these companies couldnt really give a fuck about the piracy itself - they just want the money for the anti-piracy work Sad

Altho the fact that these ambulance chasers are concentrating their energies on the indexing sites rather than the news servers makes one wonder if they are really as omnipotent as they appear to be.
money/greed driven exercises are inhibited by resource constraints necessary to ensure a healthy bottom line. meaning that these guys will face exactly the same problem as everyone else who has ever attempted collating and cataloguing the usenet - keeping up with each days new posts is near impossible; mopping up the retained binaries turns into something best forgotten.
These greedies will pick off all the low hanging fruit - that is recently published or broadcast work posted en clair, but anything too tough to decrypt or sufficiently 'old' that publishers don't see a significant return or the IP provenance is in question will be left alone.
Those who want to continue using usenet just have to be sensible & discreet they will get left alone this time around, and probably the next couple too, because if usenet is 'difficult' once again, the 18-25 year old impulse consumers, who are the no 1 target of capitalist enterprise will move on to an 'easier' file sharing tool and that will cop the ambulance chasers' focus. Very Happy
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ITRUK




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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Dec 2012 12:20    Post subject:
It's funny that also now when i visit the site, Firefox and Google has it listed as a potential attack site
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chiv




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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Dec 2012 14:36    Post subject:
its not the first time.


it shall not be...


...the last.


unless the site gets shut down, in which case it will be.
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Dec 2012 18:00    Post subject:
RLSLOG...hehe the first time RLS was hit by something like this back in 2008, Martin put the whole blame on one of the moderators ReeGed ... Creator of the official forum for RLSLOG ... "He put adverts in MY RLS and took revenue from advertising warez" said Martin ..."Wait WHAT??!! SCREW YOU" said ReeGed

http://filesharefreak.com/2008/08/11/is-rlslognet-nearing-its-end

after this the seven main CREATORS of RLSlog [why creators, well Marting did shit for his own site, he only took the money form adds and pissed on the staff] made Zerosec

but then Zerosec had its own problems ... but thats a different topic
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Frant
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PostPosted: Mon, 31st Dec 2012 22:55    Post subject:
Suddenly I get this when accessing rlslog. Seems like it's been hacked or has suddenly turned into a malware/trojan nest.




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Hfric




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jan 2013 01:17    Post subject:
nope only it was added into piracy blacklist... its normal to scare the normal derpy joe away
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UreKismet




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jan 2013 01:25    Post subject:
There seem to be a lot of sites declared attack over the holiday. Political as well as software listing sites.
Who knows if it is because of increased attacks or decreased maintenence over the holidays or tinfoil hat time they're moving to close down the sites 'they' don't like
The fine print on the rlslog notice says the malware was contained on links accessible from rlslog.
I had noticed that even machines that didn't have ABP fitted weren't showin up alla those annoying tmed delay ads on rlslog starting just around Xmas and the notice suggests that some of the malware is coming from adexcite & 2upmedia so maybe rlslog had started moving on this before he got blocked.
According to truthdig http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/truthdig_is_safe_20121228/ even tho they dealt with the vulnerability immediately it took quite some time for google to remove the alert.
The other problem arises from people who don't flush their cache as some browser will keep showing the alert after the notice has been removed if a user hasn't emptied their cache.

This issue may be another reason releaselog stopped allowing external links. It would be so easy for MAFIAA to whack up a couple of infected links then alert google causing one of these notices which stop a lot of peeps in their tracks even when their AV protection will keep em safe.

One of the better usenet search engines has had this notice up for the last coupla weeks. In their case it is cause they haven't renewed their security certificate. Altho an outta date certificate means no transport layer encryption so no secure login maybe accessing from a vpn should protect users from nosey types for that. I hope so anyhow. temptingto send em the $100 fer a new cert cept of course maybe they are the nosey parkers lol.
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jan 2013 01:39    Post subject:

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